Welcome to /pmg/ - Edition #7 >Introduction This is an inclusive thread for all precious metals discussion that pertain to investing in gold, silver, platinum, and palladium, for coins, rounds, and bars. Other metals (like copper) are welcome as well. Physical possession is always recommended. Please keep discussions civil and evidence-based, and refrain from unnecessary ad hominem arguments. If you prefer crypto over PM, that's fine. If you prefer one PM over others, that's fine too. Just remember, all precious metals are precious and have their rightful purpose in both industry and investment. A good strategy should be to diversify and have as many PM's as possible.
>Current Metal Prices (USD) - 9/28/2018 5:01:40 PM ET Metal Bid Ask +/- Gold 1191.34 1192.84 +9.29 Silver 14.63 14.68 +0.41 Platinum 810.00 820.00 +3.50 Palladium 1072.50 1078.50 -9.00
They each contain exactly 1 troy ounce you braindead retard. It doesn't matter whether it's 22k or 24k gold.
I checked the price on 10oz gold bars. It only saves $7/oz. To me that is not worth the very small savings to have a large bar that is not divisible. If the $7 is that important then by all means go for it.
someone gimme the redpill on silver shortage, i need to know
Jace Allen
what's the difference between PM coins and Crypto coins if all they do is decrease in value starting from the second i buy them?
Tyler Nguyen
Vampires are destroying as much silver as possible.. for reasons.
Isaiah Myers
PM coins you can take them out and look at them like a dragon with his treasure
Andrew Rogers
There isn't one, at least not yet. They can start silver mines off and on depending on demand.
David Roberts
This. I love taking all my krugerrands out and lining them up under the sunlight. It's a thing of beauty.
Cooper Mitchell
it's a lie that silver suppliers spread
Justin Russell
1. You can't fork them to get as many as you want. 2. No 80%+ held by the devs, ready for dump.
Dominic Sullivan
So why would there be in the future? Running out of it in the ground to actually mine?
Justin Jackson
Someone told me that ETC is the real ETH. Is this true? I have 12 of them.
Xavier Morris
Instead 70% is held by banks and there’s countless counterfeits so basically you can create coins out of thin air..I’m huge on silver but you’re fucking delusional and biased lmfao.
William Rogers
It is projected that there will be less to mine in the coming decades. Whether that holds true is hard to know for certain.
Nolan Brooks
Good to accumulate either way. Eventually there will be some kind of shortage.
Thomas Williams
And yes you can fork them but they’ll be worth zero without users. It’s people like you who say bitcoin is worthless because it’s not used in industrials or electronics . Fucking brainlet.
Jack Brown
This guys ID is like a death metal fan on youtube.
Nolan Wood
Silver 1,000 EOY
Camden Bailey
I hereby make the suggestion that PM holders should form now on be referred to as dragons.
It's the original ETH. A Fork resulted in ETH ran by Vitalik
Jonathan Jackson
That's highly unlikely. Also, how easy are pms to short?
Noah Cox
Yes. I'll do it. So am I rich now?
Thomas Perez
Oops, meant to quote
Ryan Roberts
Pretty easy. 1k is outrageous but $100 really isn’t.
Jayden Wright
Each cycle. The bigger the bubble the larger the increase. I’m looking $320 per ounce of silver this time around.
Owen Reyes
Apparently the amount of gold that can be mined economically is equivalent to only 30% of the gold mined so far, most of which was mined in the last 50 years. Technological breakthroughs that would increase the amount of economically minable gold like deep crust mining, ocean floor and asteroid mining seem a bit far away. So are we reaching an at least temporary peak gold environment which will make the price moon like crazy?
Camden Hughes
No, ETH got a larger adoption compared to ETC now. But ETC did just get added to Coinbase, if ETH flops you may be in some money.
Just hold on to it for now
Ethan Smith
Also ETC was previously taken OFF Coinbase after the fork, so it must be something significant that made it get put back on
honestly palladium has looked pretty good, I've been thinking about it lately
Luis Anderson
Really? Because making money off of the inevitable downturns is the only reason to hold metals.
Caleb Hernandez
Uranium. Prices are depressed af. Wait for a trend recersal first, of course.
Robert Lee
>what is store of value Who were you guys sent here by?
Jonathan Lewis
palladium was good when it was 300 and platinum was 2k. now platinum is higher grade platinum group than paladium and cheaper. silver is the highest value for ozs out the ground
Jose Stewart
>ozs What does that mean?
Owen Martin
troy ounce, it's how they measure pm
Wyatt Hall
Okay, thanks. Any other basic terms I should know?
Jace Collins
Well according to that other poster it failed at being a store of value.
Nicholas Lewis
know the difference between bullion and numismatics. bullion is coins that are sold near spot prices, numismatics are coins that have additional value over melt because they are rare/low mintage. you will always lose on numismatics, and I learned that the hard way when I got into precious metal investing
Michael Williams
Why will you always lose in numismatics? Because the only way to profit is selling to collectors?
Matthew Brooks
Exactly. In most cases, no dealer will give you anything more than melt on any coin regardless of the rarity or mintage. And private collectors are an absolute pain to find and even then they aren't going to pay much more.
Hunter Thompson
kek, I know so normies that are trying to make money on rare mints
Jaxson Anderson
Metal shills are scammers. Metals are one of the most useless investments of all time, outperformed by everything including bonds and gemstone
Threads like these are made by the dumbest doomsday faggots in existence
Metals aren't an investment, they are a hedge on inflation (even your graph clearly shows that with gold vs USD). You can take 2,500 yo Greek gold coins and they still have the same buying power they did then as today.
William Nguyen
Except it's literally not you dumb goldbug Bonds are a hedge against inflation, Metals are a shit gamble
Bonds are backed by the govt. If the govt collapses your bonds will be worthless, the gold will still have it's value.
Luke Murphy
See, youre just another doomsday faggot, like all goldbugs Enjoy your worthless depreciating rocks
Lucas Sullivan
This. You get what you deserve. You'll be in the poorhouse in 2020.
Matthew Peterson
It doesn't have to collapse, they could simply default. Just look at the exponential debt accumulation of the US Federal govt. That can't go on forever.
and Jesus Christ Marie, they're not rocks. They're rare transition metals.
oh man you are really needing better sources for info. Gov bonds do well in deflationary/crash periods. bonds are not going to help fight inflation at all. its like you think the jews are actually going to help you and not rob you. how cute and naive
Andrew Watson
Youre fucking stupid if you think the US can default
What organization is paying you to post? I dont think more than literally 3 people are falling for it, so why do you keep posting these threads
Julian Ortiz
they do better than metals so youre fucking stupid
Brandon Russell
>it's never happened before so it can't happen This is classic stupidity.
Colton Ortiz
bubba there isnt one bond from 1000 yrs ago that is worth even the pen that wrote it. Metals on the other hand are all in pristine condition and fought inflation without a care in the world. Do what you want, but dont give economic advice
Gabriel Hall
Youre just making shit up like most goldbugs do
Literally every other object beats metals. Once again, who is paying you to post?
I googled to check myself and it was like $50 an ounce in 1980. And $50 today is like $144. My bad. Still, 14-15 today is a steal if it ever hits ATH.
Gabriel Smith
Probably more realistic to be able to sell at 115 than 140ish. Few people get in at the floor and sell at ceiling ofc.
Tyler Ramirez
I want to invest in gold but I'm poor what are good gold stocks or etfs for gold platnum and steel?
Grayson Clark
I'm a cryptofag but have really been enjoying these pgm threads. I'm ready to buy about a kg of silver (I can budget about 500 dollars or so this month give or take). Is it cool to buy a kilo of silver in bars or should I buy coins or smaller bars?
I imagine there's a small price bump for lower weights and this may largely come down to preferable... but what is your preferences then? I'd like this to be an enjoyable long term investment. I'm interested in these theories about how silver is worth much more than it seems. Well anons, I've got my shoebox for storage and a couple hundred bucks, is anyone interested in sharing their thoughts?
Just buy some old euro 20 francs. They are about 1/5 oz and easy to afford, and quite popular according to APMEX buy/sell rankings.
John Rodriguez
I would suggest buying APMEX rounds or American Silver Eagles. Also get some gold as well. It's more compact and easier to hide. I use a rare earth magnet to hide an entire pound of gold in a very unique place.
Anthony Butler
Gold isn't magnetic though?
Jeremiah Lopez
No shit Sherlock. The magnet is inside a small bag which holds the gold.
Levi Smith
Don't tell everyone your secret user
Sebastian Perry
It's more sharing ideas to help other anons come up with ways on hiding their stash.
Jeremiah Gray
you'll get bored of whatever you buy and then start collecting random bullshit like coins, rounds or minimintages. It's all bs. Silver is silver, the truth is collecting rocks is tedious. buy a safe and make monthly purchases you're comfortable with.
Ryan Russell
you can take those security stickers that set off alarms at stores, wire a makeshift buzzer like what the store uses, and then find when the tag gets deactivated.
boom, thats your rare earth magnet.
Nathan Gutierrez
hard drives have the best magnets
Brandon Johnson
I'm on apmex now and am going to take your advice. I'm seeing apmex rounds for 15.51 and silver American eagles for 17.51... apart from aesthetics is there any reason you'd recommend the eagles over the apmex rounds considering the price difference of 2 bucks an oz?
Hudson Gomez
They'll pay more when you sell Eagles back, but then the buy/sell spread between the two is about the same, so it's really just a personal preference of what you'd like better. The APMEX rounds are pretty good quality though, they are made by Sunshine Mint, one of the best. Also, if you're interested in fractional gold, check out the Swiss/French 20 francs. They are cheaper than modern fractional coins on a per/oz basis.
Logan Morris
Appreciate the advice man
Luke Morales
no problemo
William Morales
Understand that a 10 oz bar had ita own applications. Being well diversified in each division will benefit you in the long run
Barry Shillbert, coinbase investor, bought a bunch when it was under a dollar.
Joshua Ramirez
I buy a kilo a week and a ten ounce bar once a month. I already have about 150 ounces in 1 ounce bars. There's no need to have more than that being divisible. Kilo bars look cool, are easy to stack and store and they aren't unreasonably heavy.
Aaron Green
What is the magnet for?
Carson Bennett
gülden bümp
William Smith
holding his shit yellow rocks up his equally shitty arsehole
James Evans
Who here buys 3x silver ETF’s?
Brody Hughes
I went with ASE’s but wouldn’t it be smart to get in on 3x exposure if I believe silver is going to $50?