Redpill me on Farming

Is modern US domestic farming a profitable venture? Does Uncle Sam fuck you or suck your dick?

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its like asking if i but any stock will it go up. There are shit tons of variables and most big money is made by the already rich running on slim margins. There are excellent opportunities in farming but they are mostly seasonal/regional/crop specific

usda sucked so hard under obama they were litterally giving old nigger women in flipflops grants for greenhouses and stiffing real white farmers

Grow speciality crops
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Famers have good years, then they get fucked hard by the farming Mafia.
Things like corn and milk prices are controlled by powerful groups.
It's never been that good.
-guy who was raised on a farm for 20 years and who's entire extend family farms.

It's become more profitable for my Uncle to lease his farmland to a large farm corporation then it is to farm it himself. He sold all his equipment and now stables horses for extra money/something to do.

For once I can say I'm an expert about what op is talking about because I am an ag statistician. It's just as fucking boring as it sounds but it pays the bills and lets me sock away 5k linkies a month, so hopefully I won't need to stay there much longer.

In a broad sense, farming is suffering the same merger/monopolization trend that tech and other industries are. If you happen to be a board member or business partner on a 20k acre industrial-sized corn/basedbean operation, or senior management at Tyson foods, then it's a pretty plush deal. As a solo farmer, you're deeply and roundly fucked, you're constantly taking on debt to afford the inputs and capital for your farming op and whether or not the weather/prices afford you a profitable crop at the end of the year is always in the air. You can sign up for insurance or apply to crop disaster relief programs but it rarely makes you whole even if you qualify. Solo/family farmers are going out of business rapidly, it's hard work (80+hour weeks) with no benefits, minimal safety net and even in good years you might net $40k, $50k tops. So nobody's kids want to follow in their footsteps and are all fleeing to the city. Then the farmer dies and the kids sell the farm that's been in the family for 150 years to AgriCorp down the street for pennies on the dollar because they don't want to have shit to do with it anymore, a lot of them are embarassed to even say they come from a farming family.

There are/were some profitable niches like bespoke growing on the outskirts of a big city and selling direct to posh restaurants. But they're filling up rapidly and we're seeing the consolidation effect start to take hold even in the local/foodie markets, silicon valley fags are flooding in and creating basically the Amazon equivalent of a farmer's market and now farmer's markets and CSAs can't compete with those efficiencies of scale anymore.

Basically farming sucks hot dog dick. Stay away.

I forgot to mention, to be successful in the niche/bespoke/foodie market these days, you have to be equal parts farmer and instagram celeb. You need to gain social media cred and have a curated online personality to attract the attention of elite restaurants and food outlets. So in addition to growing goats to sell chevon to Citronelle, you also need to dress them up in hats and sunglasses, take a sepia filtered selfie and tweet it along with #FarmLife #GoatItSoGood .

Sound fun?

Please go on. I would like to know more shill me your blogposts, books, youtube videos whatever and keep writing.

Long term outlook for farming looking bad I guess, what about international markets, farming in other countries etc.

GO FUCKING WILD.

go the fuck back to Jow Forums.

>Expressing an opinion directly related to the thread about the financial feasibility of farming
>go the fuck back to Jow Forums

The world would be a better place if you suck started a shotgun.

Pretty much this. Here in the EU it's similarly bad, enough to say that gov pays you subsidies to farm, returns some money from fuel and even gets you cheap loans and other investment help to grow... all of that and you still can't compete with cheap imported products. It's go big or go home. There is a strong push to make small farmers organize in groups and basically start companies... Yeah, start companies, at that point you may as well just go to city and become a normal employee - you will get free weekends and better pay!

>So in addition to growing goats to sell chevon to Citronelle, you also need to dress them up in hats and sunglasses, take a sepia filtered selfie and tweet it along with #FarmLife #GoatItSoGood .

Modern life was a mistake.

Farming is hard as shit and expensive but land prices don't do anything but go up up up.

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My cousins easily pull 2 mill a year on their farm.
They got into the organic meme and it's been pretty good.
The overhead is fucking insane, but it makes money.

Fuck off nigger.
I farm. It sucks. But I own land. Land in which I plan to do something cool with one day. Like build a race track. Land is usually priced out of the range of young people though. You can buy shitty land for a good price. But good fertile land in a desirable location. Not happening for most people.
t. Born into wealth

Are you a poo in the loo

youtube search mark shepard, greg judy, allan savory, bill mollison, and pa yeomans. thank me later when you help save the planet and become wealthy doing it.

its a way of combining a bunch of practices into on farm to make it regenerative and massively productive. It will be the future of farming and is just in the early stages of development now. Basically your combining crop trees, grasses, annual crops, animals, and water managment together on one farm and are mimicking natures abundance but helping the processes along. instead of killing everything to plant some seeds, you invite insects, rodants, bacterial/ fungal life, birds, amphibians to be a part of your farm. long story short just watch this youtube.com/watch?v=kb_t-sVVzF0

no time to fuck around with that gay curtis stone shit or market farming. thos guys are cool be we dont have time for pink fucking rainbows. we have land to heal, and real problems to work on.

keywords to google are agroforestry, silvopasture, ally cropping, keyline design, and savannah.

Owning land is based and redpilled.

This is like that one guy on chef's table was talking about right?

na dont listen to that guy. farming will have its day in the sun just like everything else. it has been a shitty business for 50 years and is due for a huge bull market. also think about what will happen when all of the sudden people realize monsanto = death at 50 years old and that real food/ clean water is the only thing that will allow us to live to 120, not some bullshit "cancer cure". fucking retards dont even know what cancer is. its when your dna gets damaged to the point where it doesnt function properly anymore. there is no cure to damaged dna yet we somehow spend billions on that shit. the only cure is silvopasture and there will be trillions of dollars pumped into that over the next 100 years. all agriculture will be silverpasture if we plan on surviving as a species. there is no other way, i have ran all the numbers already. so be a part of something real and stop being a faggot.

idk wut ur talking about mate ud have to elaborate or link me.

You talk about selling farms to big ag corps, but I've been noticing that many farms of 100+ acres are being sold to developers now to be built into housing as well.

I'm a land surveyor, and trust me, over the last decade, at least in my state, plenty of farms are turning into subdivisions. Power companies are buying them up, too. I had an out of state assignment in NC a few years ago that lasted a couple weeks cause a large portion of a basedbean farm was sold to Dominion power to be used as a wind farm for power.

>basedbean

Should be basedbean

Historically, margins on agriculture are super, super low. Even if you invest in the megacorps, you'll get a fraction of what you would get investing in tech/pharma/etc.

I owned a permaculture crops, livestock, berries and fruit tree farm. The surrounding land was taken over by RE devs and 100% fact jews and jew lawyers sued me for nonsense over and over and over until they caught a lucky break and a judge gave them a win after a summary judgement and they destroyed my farm but built nothing on it. The made an HOA community around my farm. This is real and was done by real jews. If you fucks dont think jews are the evil in USA you will find out. I got a smaller farm and grow medicine crops now that pays better but has a short single annual harvest. When I say kill the jews it is for the good of all people. Kill the fucking jews

>Should be basedbean

Should be basedbean.

Onions bean.

Basedbean?
Basedbean

What's happening.

> also think about what will happen when all of the sudden people realize monsanto = death at 50 years old and that real food/ clean water is the only thing that will allow us to live to 120, not some bullshit "cancer cure".

I think everything would collapse before people finally realize that.

very interesting user. yea when you try and do good things you realize there is some evil shit at work in this world. I swear the PVC factory I work at gets paid by jews to dump toxic shit into the water supply. The managers at work say its not that bad and its not toxic but ffs its thousands and thousands of pounds of nearly microscopic pvc dust that should be disposed of and not just washed down the drain. most factories are like this, its like theres literally a team of jew brokers paying off factories for every white child they make retarded.

My dad bought two acres of land in the middle of suburbia. Surrounded by trees and our neighbors are well far apart from each other. I was thinking of "farming" on a small scale. Grow fruit/veggies with the available land that I have and sell right next to the road for some side money. This winter I'm thinking of buying some seeds to start planting flowers as well. I don't have a greenhouse, but it doesn't hurt to grow perennials indoors.

Price floors and price ceilings.

yea its really fucking funny to be honest. im a medium IQ high school graduate and I know more about biology and health than %99 of doctors and scientists. Its because they get so cucked into little bubbles. its just laughable.

good idea man, go to rareseeds.com and pick some really HQ tomatoes and watermelons. that shit will sell like hotcakes. shot old heirloom varieties are harder to grow but the taste is unmatchable.

It should be basedbean.

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No, it's not economically viable to farm most crops in the US.

Agricultural technology has advanced to the point that, as long as some basic environmental factors are met, the biggest difference in the cost of agricultural production is the difference in cost of the land on which it's being farmed.

US land prices and a consistently, but especially over the past few years, strong US dollar has made it so that things like basedbean farming haven't been profitable here for a while.

The only reason the industry is alive is because of antiquated subsidy systems that all politicians are afraid to get rid of because they'll lose votes for taking away these farmers' livelihoods; however, it's becoming more and more expensive and inefficient and the one-time adjustment would be better in the long run.

Thats what people fail to realize with the trade war. Yes, tariffs may hurt specific US industries now but if you look at how grossly abusive China has been and how terrible many of the current systems in place are for US businesses to compete on a global scale, you'll see that this one time adjustment will be more than worth it compared to a future in which we continue to allow China to bleed us dry until they're so much stronger than us that they're no longer interested

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It should be basedbean.

I thought American farms we're full of mexicans.
Is there more to farming than California?