Astraea and Chainlink aren't competitors

Am I missing something, or is Astraea strictly for the delivery of boolean data onto the blockchain? e.g., it can resolve a statement like "the president died on September 27, 2018," since the answer can be reduced to 'true' or 'false'. It essentially asks for boolean answers in a prisoner's dilemma-style game where it can proved mathematically that all rational participants have an incentive to tell the truth.

But it has no ability to answer questions like 'what was the closing price of Tilray stock on September 27, 2018,', since the answer to that is not a simple true or false and it can't be reduced to a game with mathematically provable outcomes. Chainlink can answer this kind of question because it takes a more pragmatic approach by aggregating numeric data and rejecting outliers. It doesn't have the force of PhD-level game theory maths behind it, but it's precisely because it doesn't aim for that rarefied (and not very useful) definition of truth that it can actually handle the kind of real-world data requests that smart contracts are likely to be making.

Am I wrong? Seems like Astraea, even if it were in production and had compelling tokenomics and people lined up around the block to participate in the network, would be covering the same 'yes or no' prediction market-type ground that something like Augur already is. Even if Chainlink didn't have the head start it has, Astraea still wouldn't be a competitor. They do different things.

Another comparison, Chainlink is Ethereum while Astraea is Cardano. "Good enough" with actual adoption, usage and institutional interest, vs. "academic ideal" with no real-world interest or implentation in sight.

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chainlink is a competitor to a sewage plant

OP is based and redpilled

all you are missing is one is a project, the other is a paper. Chainlink has a github and active development, Astraea has a few discord fags shitposting about it

Street and Toilet weren't competitors either, they said.

Yea don't worry about this. Lublin likely retweeted it before the upcoming SF blockchain events to get the wider crypto community aware of the oracle problem before unleashing Chainlink

I second this. Fudders btfo and brainlets anxiety has lowered

People on telegram talked about this. Yes Astrae is just for two way shits

Everyone needs to chill and reevaluate after the upcoming events and speakings.

Checked and agreed
No way is the next two months not going to be good for link

Astrea seems more like FUD for augur lol

revolutionary and bullish if true

The Astraea shit is brainlet tier fud. Even the mock-up lenocinium site was better for shaking weak hands. I am going to be glad when this shit is settled just so that I don't have to read low iq drivel written by desperate retards trying to accumulate.

>arent competitors

centralized oracle competing with another centralized oracle, both won't be seeing any real world use anyway, so who cares

>It doesn't have the force of PhD-level game theory maths behind it.

And what that means ? That it doesnt need to have, sergey could hire anyone with his 32mil. and he still didnt.

the silencing of discord fudders will be almost more pleasurable than the fact of getting rich

something fucking stinks regarding lubin and this "oracle problem solved" shenanigans... anyone got any theories aside from

>commie eth OGs don't like sergeys oracle network because it caters to (((them)))

>Astraea is a legitimate competitor with 1000 lines of code and the oracle problem is overblown

I actually think that lubin and crew might be trolling CL fans as they are known for their delusions and fanaticism

They all bought in - this is the second last round of FUD before mainnet - one more to go - we’re approaching the final boss - will you make it?

My corporeal body will make it but my sanity? not so sure

I did some swing trading and managed to gain 100 free links, that's like a small apartment in the future.

>But it has no ability to answer questions like 'what was the closing price of Tilray stock on September 27, 2018,', since the answer to that is not a simple true or false and it can't be reduced to a game with mathematically provable outcomes

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if closing price of Tilray stock >=50
then (if closing price of Tilray stock >=51
then (if.....
else return price of Tilray is 50-50.99
else return price of Tilray is 49-49.99
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Trolling is actually the best explanation. That thing is blatant garbage

How are you going to vote on infinite possibilities?
You realise nodes have to vote on arbitrary information? There is no way to automate this.

but conceptually... is it sound do you think?
could the oracle solution be plug and play, but the real challenge is the implementation (cue sergey)

It's a less developed augur with no money no development and no devs.

looks like I got fooled by the discords faggots yet again and by fooled I mean was caused slight concern

No you're right, and it was already discussed months ago. This shitty fud is the work of discord retards who try to trade with their stack of 300 LINKs and useful idiots.

Ok guys, as a programmer and Link investor I've just run a node with Astraea just to prove by myself if that's really a decentralized oracle.

I got to admit that, holly shit, this oracle works really nice, I've detected (via Astraea) for example the weather last night in my city, Dublin.

It works in the same way than chainlink, but thinking that this will be probably free... I'm really considering if CL it's a good investment or not. Also, the CL code and nodes still have some bugs and big failures, so I think that October-November will be the right months to sell, maybe at 0,40 or 0,50.

Astraea/Athena was developed unironically to combat “fake news”, so you’re absolutely right. It was a failed project btw.
Shintaku literally copy-pasted their shit and called it a day (check the github, literally one commit from months ago: the import) so it’s beyond baffling that anyone would consider this anywhere close to a working decentralized oracle solution. It’s much closer to Augur (did X happen? Yes/no).
That John Adler guy is literally a hack who saw someone use his shit and got such a massive ego boost that he decided to stroke his dicklet in public.

There is still the issue of knowing that these answers are correct. Ask these nodes a question that requires authority, like the price of gold. If accurate, banking authority is not undermined and the pricing is centralized; if wrong, then we have to assign authority to the platform to make it the standard, which requires central authority in itself.

Decentralized sewage, you're a genius. Instead of one centralized sewage plant controlling all the poop, it's decentralized across multiple nodes (streets)

Totally agree, these morons are on my last nerve.

Pretty sure Lubin didn't even read the article that dude wrote. He just retweeted it for his buddy.

Agreed
I felt the FUD so I decided to read up through the voting system in the Astrea whitepaper yesterday.
Astrea won't be able to handle automated smart contracts because of their manual voting and certification system.

Given that none of these faggots have given you a proper answer.
Yes, your understanding is correct. Astraea cannot provide the flexibility Chainlink can provide.
Furthermore it's just a whitepaper
On top of that the token economics won't work
Hold a little longer, marine.