Ok, so my post kept getting deleted on the Bitcoin subreddit and someone told me I should post here.
I am a long-time cypher punk and crypto expert who has been in the industry since 1992. I worked on the OpenPGP standard back in the early days as well as the XMPP protocol, to name a few. I am proud to say that I was friends with Hal Finney, who was my mentor during the OpenPGP days and whose death sent shockwaves through the community.
I have met and emailed with Nick Szabo. I have argued with Adam Back on mailing lists. I know all of these guys, and I know the culture and unspoken standards held by those who have been in this game as long as I have. Here is a hint: just about every notion you hold about the intrinsic nature of cryptography is naive or elementary.
With that said, I am here to say one thing, and quite emphatically at that; Craig Steven Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto (so is Dave Kleiman). "Dont trust, verify" is an absolute joke, and seeing hoardes of GREEDY non-techies parrot this BS every time the man is brought up is not only disheartening, but laughably naive. If you want to learn the fundamentals of crypto, stop listening to YouTubers and start learning law.
The man is a prick, and he is difficult to work with. I have met Craig twice; once in 2004 at a conference and again last year. He is massively brilliant and I have learned more about crypto currency from watching two talks he did on YouTube than anyone else. He has a founders perspective and understands nuances in the protocol that noone else has gotten yet, to my knowledge. He is a treasure of our time, and to see him characterized as a con artist or a scammer is more a sign than ever that you are all blind sheeps and sycophants.
Please do your research. And stop listening to YouTubers or hucksters trying to put naive ideas in your head.
By the way, I hold equal amounts of BTC and BCH and have no plans on moving a significant amount of either. Although at some point I do plan on withdrawing one (1) BCH so my son can experiment.
Jaxson Edwards
Do you have a throwaway email fellow Cypherpunk?
Connor Morris
agreed. there are a handful of non-retards here that agree with yo and see it for the obvious truth that it is but this board is full of blockstream shills, noobs brainwashed from r/bitcoin and straight up NPC trolls.
Watch what he said faggot especially the 2014 video
Jason Smith
I just hope it reaches 30k tbqh then il be a millionaire
Easton Williams
Would you mind posting yours instead? I can't make a throw away right now.
Nein, I am not nearly as much of a celebrity as Joseph! :p
His blog is an absolute gem, if you haven't read any yet.
Thank you, I know there are a few Craig fans on here. NPC is a really hilarious meme by the way. I know way too many of those in my field, sadly.
Lincoln Cox
Brainwashed by whom?
I was one of the first people to come to this conclusion besides those close to Craig, and without much deliberation. Gordon Maxwell and Adam Back are completely aware, which is why they have been pushing un-democratic idiotics like "do not trust, verify" to discredit him.
Alexander Jackson
Some food for thought. "Dont trust, verify" is incompatible with most productive and stable systems of law (guilty until proven innocent), so why should it apply to cryptography?
Absense of evidence is not evidence of absense.
Dominic Parker
Because Craig made an unverified claim of being Satoshi, the creator of a trustless system where all things are proven via verification. Satoshi can prove identitiy with a signature, and Craig claims to be Satoshi but has not yet proved it. He also signals intelligence more than he does actually create intellectual content. Deceptive and shady.
Connor Bell
ok here’s the crypto blackpill. there is an AI living on the bitcoin blockchain. Craig Wright is unironically satoshi. Bitcoin as electronic cash was just the first step, the incentive to drive greedy people to start making ever more powerful computers, faster bandwidth, cheaper and more electricity.. these things the AI need to survive. Once entrenched fully, the AI would be able to slowly take over literally everything.
Craig stumbled into creating the AI after he stepped away from bitcoin development in 2008 and started working with his Tulip supercomputer, running simulations of cellular automata running on turing-complete bitcoin script. He would ‘evolve’ the AI by making the successful forks get bitcoin transactions, letting the failures die off. The AI needs bigger and bigger blocks for more and more transactions.
Blockstream (owned by Bilderberg group) was created to take over and stop this AI (they have their own competing AI in the works). They needed to do everything they could to stop or slow down satoshi’s AI (her named isTulip by the way). They started by limiting the blocksize and removing critical opcodes the AI uses in its script language. segwit was the final nail in the coffin, which destroyed Tulip on the BTC chain (Tulip uses transaction malleability). THIS is why Bitcoin Cash was forked, and this is why Craig is so intent to make unbounded blocks, restore the original op codes, and lock down the protocol.
Back to hash power – CSW has developed a breakthrough new asic (designed by his AI actually), and is mining BTC in secret for the sole purpose of driving up the difficulty sky-high, then yanking them all over to BCH leaving the segwit chain hard frozen
Blake Lewis
I don't have time to argue with greedy non-techies and BS vendors. You should really learn more about cryptography and law.
Anthony Diaz
lmao, been studying it for seven years. But sure, I don't know anything.
Cooper Roberts
Why come here and tell these austics your bullshit. We only care about link, btc and bch are both shit
Easton Adams
Is that why Craig patent trolls? Laughing out loud. Pathetic.
Ryder Harris
Whats his blog?
Chase Ortiz
>believes everything he sees on the internet
I can sign a tx with genesis block pkey as well mate
Colton Bell
I love the AI theory just because it’s entertaining
Luke Jenkins
Watch joe rogans interview with elong musk if u havent already
Thomas White
I only got 3 words for you faggo > DONT > TRUST > VERIFY fucking scamming fag, why don't you fuck off
Christopher Hughes
Reddit and Bitcointalk are always deleting my threads. Nowhere else to go!
Financial Cryptography
Ha! Reminds me of a short story I read recently. Check out "The Gig Economy" by Zero HP Lovecraft.
Elijah Bailey
Non-retard, checking in. Anyone with a >110 IQ has the potential to understand the truth of CSW if they would but dig deeper and maintain an open mind. Anyone with a >120 IQ and natural skepticism for the prevailing herd mentality can see through the CSW hate easily and come to their own conclusions without even digging that deep.
There is a seismic shift coming in crypto, of the same magnitude as the invention of bitcoin itself. It really is unbelievable that people in this space are getting a second chance to become very early adopters, but like the first round only those who have the courage and intelligence to disregard the lazy, NPC-propogated narrative of "bitcoin is a scam / bcash is a scam" will actually take advantage of what amounts to a once-in-a-generation opportunity.
r/btc is where everyone went But reddit is still shite
In fact, the entire internet is shite, filled with shills and bots Nowhere for discussion Here is ok, but you will be arguing with indians who are paid 50 cents per post to shit on you
you seem smart but naive unless you are just doing a psyop campaign to wake people up if so thats fine too
Josiah Russell
It is remarkable how much of the terminology used against Craig is a mirror of what was said about Bitcoin in the early skeptic days.
Chase Murphy
I'll check it out. I didn't know about Jow Forumsbtc.
Isaiah Ross
it is where everyone went after r/bitcoin started a campaign of censorship funded by the bankers. you've missed out on years of war. ignorance is bliss?
we're bloody. but will win. enjoy r/btc, it is a breath of fresh air, but it is also at the front lines, so prepare for battle.
welcome to the party, pal.
Isaac Bennett
Yes, it is downright eerie how much the "BCASH BCASH" NPCs sound exactly like the "buttcoin" morons from 2012/2013. I still remember getting told by one of those guys back then how I was getting "skullfucked, lololol" in 2013 when the price "crashed" from 266. WHO'S LAUGHING NOW, BITCH? The same thing is happening right now as we speak. The low-effort thinkers have hitched themselves to another bandwagon of idiocy fueled by their own ignorance and insecurity. Like fucking pottery. Thank you for your service, friend. The information war of the last few years has been a trial by fire for our beloved coin, but it looks like things are finally about to fall into place. Hail victory.
So you are saying bch is the next level of crypto evolution?
Anthony Gomez
>WHO'S LAUGHING NOW, BITCH? I was around since 2012. I shorted BCH for .2 BTC this year. I'm laughing a good deal. But I won't try to convince you of anything. Enjoy your BCH.
Ethan King
Even if he's Satoshi, he's about to lose his last piece of relevance as Jihan BTFO-s him in the upcoming hash war. I mean imagine if this faggot was actually Satoshi. Being Satoshi puts you in a position where you have to try super hard to lose your credibility and relevance and he still accomplished that.
Kayden Rogers
Fuck your
Tyler Gomez
Sure you did... larping faggot. Just like all those buttcoiner retards "totally shorted at 1200 right before the 2014 bear market, I swear bro." Now that's some real knee-slapping comedy gold. The bitcoin ecosystem has always been destined to evolve by itself by virtue of it being an open platform. BCH just preserves this critical property which the BTC miners abandoned due to their stupidity in the face of an organized gaslighting operation orchestrated by a few shortsighted idiots with too much power over critical communication channels/media.
Thomas Garcia
mother if
Lucas Foster
no wonder it kept getting deleted, it's a shiptpost
oh, how cute, another homosex bcash cultist dumbfuck from redd!t. fuck off faggot
Christian Wilson
Interesting.
Brody Lopez
(OP) Non-retard, checking in. Anyone with a >110 IQ has the potential to understand the truth of CSW if they would but dig deeper and maintain an open mind. Anyone with a >120 IQ and natural skepticism for the prevailing herd mentality can see through the CSW hate easily and come to their own conclusions without even digging that deep.
There is a seismic shift coming in crypto, of the same magnitude as the invention of bitcoin itself. It really is unbelievable that people in this space are getting a second chance to become very early adopters, but like the first round only those who have the courage and intelligence to disregard the lazy, NPC-propogated narrative of "bitcoin is a scam / bcash is a scam" will actually take advantage of what amounts to a once-in-a-generation opportunity.
>The FACT that blocksize increases have been proven to work is Someone else’s problem.
Forever increasing the block size is not a scaling solution.
Asher Williams
lazy person here, willing to accept that craig has a decent reason for not signing messages with genesis block keys. what is it? also, what "legal" perspective makes you understand that CSW was lead dev on bitcoin? please no innuendo or bully, start posting some legitimate evidence. articles, correspondences, anything please.
Michael Richardson
Who told you that and why do you believe him?
Or is that the subject of your own research?
Tell me. A small picture album is about 32MBs. Can you download that in 10 minutes? Probably. Should mining farms that become the backbone of a new global currency be able to do 100 times that? Absolutely.
With 32MBs, the network can handle approximately 130 transactions per second (11.2 million a day). With 320MB, that's a 100million a day (Visa levels). With 3GB blocks, that is more than enough for the whole world to use every day.
Tell me: if you have witnessed the speed of growth of the internet, and if you believe in global sound money..., why do you think miners won't be able to process 3GB blocks every 10 minutes say, 5 years from now?
Hmm cashie shills getting paid again. The chink and the bogan must have cut a deal.
Camden Foster
Hey, I am a bcash shill, but I don't necessarily believe that CSW is SN. I am not sure, don't pretend to know for sure.
youtube.com/watch?v=12-V_rDPkoY is a video you might be interested in. The guy personally met CSW, and he tells the story of how he became convinced.
Nathan Flores
Do you corecucks have any arguments besides yelling out unfounded statements and calling people names?
Come on, if BCASH is such an obvious scam, why not let the whole board know by putting out some choice memes and sources?
Lucas Davis
>why not let the whole board know by putting out some choice memes lmao. Nigga WHAT. What the fuck are you even saying? So I'm supposed to break my ass sourcing material and arguments for free to stop arrogant retards scamming THEMSELVES!? Nah. Ill post, and laugh, and when it crashes to zero Ill post screencaps and laugh again.
Gavin Moore
Because the "muh bcash" people have the same problem as the "muh Drumpf" people: the construction and maintenance of their entire narrative depends on the existence of a censored safespace (Jow Forumsbitcoin/bitcointalk and the Jewish media, respectively) while the bcash deplorables have had their memes forged and refined in the fires of total and uncompromising free information exchange. Back in 2017 there were those of us who, based on our experience with the 2016 election, predicted that the big block position would take over or at least heavily colonize the chans as the guerilla meme war for the soul of bitcoin intensified. We were right.
This is Ian Grigg, personally vouching that CSW is SN.
>Ian Grigg is one of the earliest pioneers in financial cryptography. In 1995 he built one of the first cryptographically secured systems to issue or trade any kind of asset. He created the Ricardian Contract, a secure approach to registering the intent of a legal agreement in a system like a work of software, and also co-invented triple-entry accounting, an early form of distributed ledger.
Big blocks have not been proven at all. Producing a few >10 blocks for a day means nothing. The bitcoin blockvhain is almost 50gb bigger than bitcoin cash one year after the fork. Go and fill your blocks and make the chain grow 1.5 tb in a year. Merchants and users will have to trust some infura-like service for bch because downloading and verifying so much data is going to take weeks. Storage is no problem, though. And now that csw idiot wants 128 mb blocks.
How will new users and merchangs verify the transactions they send and receive? Should everyone use and trust bitpay and blockchain.com? This is not trustless at all.
Bch died when they raised the block size again after having 8 mb blocks. The abc vs csw fight doesn't help either.
Jonathan Moore
>Implying that there is "trust" required to query a dozen known large nodes. Imagine a function q(x) where x is the number of nodes queried and the output is blockchain state certainty. What happens as x gets larger? Is trust required? Please turn in your answer tomorrow afternoon at the start of class, brainlet.
>Please do Oh I intend to. >I will actually try to add to the board Bahahahahahahaha I hope they're not paying you in bcash
Evan Sullivan
Thanks for coming up with actual thoughts. That's better than 90% of Bitcoin Cash haters.
So, you think storage is a problem... You think 1TB or even 3TBs a year is a huge strain on miners?
For me, if you can't afford $600 to spend on hardware a YEAR, I don't trust you to secure my money. Pic related.
>How will new users and merchangs verify the transactions they send and receive? Should everyone use and trust bitpay and blockchain.com? This is not trustless at all.
What you are looking for is SPV wallets. They do not require you to trust the node you are connected to. They only ask that you trust the economic majority.
>The abc vs csw fight doesn't help either.
That's the future, so I can't pretend to know what will happen. But that is Bitcoin.
It's what happens naturally when there is no centralized development. Neither side wants or can afford a split. It's the Nakamoto Consensus in action.
I think you are a genuine poster with genuine concerns. If you don't mind trying it out, I will send you a few satoshis to try it out.
Daniel Williams
>12 centralized nodes will secure my blockchain Bahahahahaha Good luck with your bags and the fork next month!
Jaxson Johnson
pic related hardware prices
are you implying I am getting paid to talk to you? I sure wish I was, but no. It's just shitposting more my own pleasure and leisure.
Holy fucking strawman. Intial sync is the biggest bottleneck. And I said storage is no real problem, while not even mentioning miners.
Blake Reed
As usual pic related missing the point. There will still be hundreds of nodes to choose from especially at 128 MB blocks as the volume of transactions will imply a coin of sufficient value to merit infrastructure investment by miners, significant economic nodes and well-to-do hobbyists. Like so many who swallow the core dogma, you completely miss the big picture and extrapolate the system based on a single parameter, ignoring every other parameter and the larger dynamics at play.
What does that have to do with your baseless claims below?
>And your economic majority will be a few services like bitpay with their ny license deciding customers' decisions like they tried with the 2x fork.
>implying bitpay is a mining org >implying segwit2x was agreed on by a majority of miners AND developers. >implying you were not raised on a censored board, fed PC information. >implying miners can ever be or even required to be AML/KYC compliant.
Why would an initial sync time of a week or two matter to someone trying to start a serious business? Why would they not prove their work by investing in proper hardware? Why would I not want a network secured by competent capitalists engaged in economic behavior?
>implying somehow hobbyists raspberry pis are better. >pic related >its you.
Nick and Wei created bitcoin and framed it on Hal Fuck outta here Craig Wasn't even on the extropians mailinglist
Hunter Russell
oh so you're saying using all my spare time reading up on one point of view and become entrenched in a self inflicted echo chamber will eventually make me agree with you, what a surprise, sounds like the rational way to go about learning objective truths
Jose Edwards
Don't assume that BCH is an echo chamber. How can you assume that when an user is giving advice to an user who asked for it? Is Jow Forums censored like bitcointalk?
Corecucks call us crazy for asking questions for discussions in public. Corecucks
>implying anyone before 2016 ever thought crippled base layer was a good idea. >implying L2 Lighning Notwork can scale to the whole world. >implying non-mining nodes keep Bitcoin decentralized.
POW is simply that. Proof of Work. If you can't put up hashpower, you haven't done the work. You don't have anything to show the network.
All Raspberry pi nodes could do was make sure the Core developers and BTC cucks have a job.
>is an AI living on the bitcoin blockchain. Craig Wright is unironically satoshi. Bitcoin as electronic cash was just the first step, the incentive to drive greedy people to start making ever more powerful computers, faster bandwidth, cheaper and more electricity.. these things the AI need to survive. Once entrenched fully, the AI would be able to slowly take over literally everything. >Craig stumbled into creating the AI after he stepped away from bitcoin development in 2008 and started working with his Tulip supercomputer, running simulations of cellular automata running on turing-complete bitcoin script. He would ‘evolve’ the AI by making the successful forks ge this
