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Why are republicans so bad for the economy?
Bentley Reyes
Landon Young
Republicans get elected during a bull market, crash ensues.
Democrats get elected during a bear market, growth ensues.
Jordan Martinez
because social democracy is the only true stable form of capitalism, anything less leads to boom and bust cycles and economic collapse due to massive wealth inequality
Ian Ross
>yet another leftypol raid
Die soon
Jaxson Scott
Real captialism is the true form, but we never had it. Thanks to the SJWs and socialism. Regulations over regulations and retarded socialism expanses are destroying the whole purpose of capitalism.
But let's get some more minority rules, especially on the job market. ;)
Oliver Foster
Then bet against the markets when Dems take seat. It will clearly work out for retards like you.
Benjamin Gonzalez
Obviously dems will take the seat, i have no doubt about that. US elections are retarded in every way since it is only black or white, 0 or 1.
Reps will get blamed for the whole stock crash, which is fair, after trump took all the responsibility for the bull run and even inflated with random tax reductions.
Dems on the other hand will destroy the whole econ for several generations. But who the fuck cares.
Elijah Carter
Then put your money where your mouth is and short the markets when they do.
Juan Stewart
I have already shorted the market with inversed ETFs and PMs, since we are overdue for a recession. Looking good for me right now.
>this time it will be different
Evan Lopez
democracy = mob rule which leads to very bad things.
Jackson Nelson
>this time it will be different
Who the hell are you quoting retard
Kayden Gomez
It's all Trumps fault, right?
The debt crysis meltdown will be blamed on him by (((Shillary's club)))
Charles Fisher
Republicans are only good for creating huge deficits and lining the pockets ot old wealthy men. Who was the last genuine fiscal conservative? Fucking Eisenhower? Since then its just been pure shit and its not changing since they own the court, the house and the Senate. Strap in for more government spending on shit that will not positively affect you in any way.
Camden Adams
he will be blamed because he failed to "drain the swamp", nothing more than a con artist backed by kike bankers and wall st filth
Gabriel Ross
>Republicans are only good for creating huge deficits and lining the pockets ot old wealthy men.
this
Carson Stewart
> what is sample size
> what is correlation vs causation
The thread.
Asher Hernandez
A better question would be why does the Fed hike the everloving shit out of the interest rates whenever a republican takes office and then lower them when a democrat does.
I'm sure it is merely a coincidence.
Jaxon Young
>can't read graphs
93-01 was Clinton, which had higher rates than Bush
81-93 Literally Regan/Bush Era which was a sharp decline from Carter(DEM)
Levi Lee
>"wahhhh we never had real socialism"
>"wahhhh we never had real capitalism"
wow, retarded theoretical utopian ideas on opposite ends of the spectrum aren't practical in the real world.
Benjamin Thompson
Both are shit
Austin Thomas
this is so fucking wrong if I showed this to my professor he'd get buttmad too
t.studying statistics
Isaac Price
It's the FEDs fault.
Ryder Allen
Carter being the odd outlier doesn't change anything.
Compare the rise in interest rates for republic and democrat terms. The average rise is nearly twice for republicans than democrats. The raising during clintons term was from 2.5% to 6.4% over his two terms. Bush went from 1% to 5%.
There was barely .10% interest for the ENTIRETY of Obamas term before the November elections and then suddenly they rose like magic and are sitting at 2% now. Interest rates are literally twenty times higher right now than they were two years ago and had been for eight years prior only changing upon a PRESIDENCY.
Try to deny it.
Connor Green
He inherited an economic collapse from Bush..
Ayden Jones
The way to have a productive economy is you give 90% of the wealth to a small number of people who then park it in offshore shell companies.
I don't know what happens after that but I'm sure it's good for everyone.
Aiden Morgan
>That ended the exact moment Trump took office so lets send the rates 20X
There really isn't a genuine rebuttal to it. At best you can try to sling shit but the stats are the stats. The Fed is literally fucking every republican in the ass when they take the presidency and could not have given Obama a more favorable presidency.
Ryder Ortiz
[citation needed]
why won't people admit republishits and rural retards who never went to college?
Leo Evans
>let's get some more minority rules, especially on the job market
automation is a much much much bigger threat to the job market than minorities. 80% of jobs in manufacturing sector are lost to automation meanwhile middle amerifat trump supporters think the vietcong and mexicans are stealing them.
Austin Murphy
>Citation needed
macrotrends.net
Oh look I have a citation. It is public information.
tradingeconomics.com
Oh look another source for this easily found information.
Owen Green
The whole "stealing jobs" thing is fucking retarded. If jobs can be stolen then brb I'm off to become CEO. An immigrant or minority gets a job becasue an employer chooses to cut costs by employing them. Then the person who is out of a job directs all their rage at the poor fuck who was just looking for employment, instead of the person who made the conscious decision to fuck over their countrymen just to help the bottom line.
It's one of the areas where the left and right should be in complete agreement, and the deafening silence from the right when it comes to the neoliberal policies of employers is something that absolutely mystifies me.
Christian Morgan
Trump used tax cuts in a booming economy. Which was completely moronic. He already used the best tool he had to fight a recession
Liam Harris
Inheriting an economic collapse is favorable?
Parker Flores
this too
Jose Johnson
It was a recession not an economic collapse. By 2011 the market had recovered. Keep trying to find a way out though. Don't address anything else just keep hammering your point because you don't have anything else. Don't address the point made or the years of some of the lowest interest in american history that suddenly spiked when his presidency ended.
Stay in your bubble.
Nicholas Hill
Hey!
Jose Bell
more like, why is the Fed a thing?
Joseph Gonzalez
"stealing jobs" is typically illegal immigrants who DONT pay taxes taking jobs from people who DO pay taxes, just because corporations want to cut their costs.
It's obviously real and bad for the economy because there's less work for people who are actually paying taxes, and more work for dirty immigrants with no living standards
Mason Martin
Bullshit argument which doesn't apply to todays world.
Because of regulations, companies are not able to freely choose who would be the best employee. This applys to minorities, gender, race, what else not. Forcing companies because of the ideology isn't how economy works and should work.
There is a reason why women make up for only 5% of the CEO positions of the fortune 500.
There is a reason why only 4 CEOs are black in the fortune 500.
You are right. But regulations and minorities are the current issue. Automation is a decade or two away. What is the solution? UBI? Won't work because of immigration and never ending population growth. Society hasn't come up with something else.
Anyway since when does any political party cares about future problems? Max thinking period is as long as the legislative period is.
Mason Bailey
>pump and dump mentality
not sustainable
Easton Lee
listen you mental midget, the frist rate hikes happened already long before he took office, there had been several under Obama you absolute monglet.
How did it survive those rate hikes? Because the US economy has hardened under Obama after it was literally rekt under retarded republicans.
Jonathan Powell
>taking jobs
There you go again. How do they "take a job" from someone? Jobs are given, by employers.
Don't your points contradict each other? Doesn't the fact that there are so few black people and women in top positions kind of indicate that people ARE free to hire who they want?
And how is it is a "bullshit argument that doesn't apply"? What's bullshit about it?
Leo Nelson
>because of regulations, companies have to hire illegals
Carson Price
You're retarded. Affirmative action is such a minute thing it impacts no one. Employers want women in the workforce and immigration because it drives wages down.
You must try to shoehorn your gender and race politics into everything like a true low IQ psuedointellectual
Ian Walker
Obama was too pussy to undo any of the bush era tax exemptions. He tried bending over for Republican policy and still Republicans blame him for everything
Julian Campbell
You're what they call a useful idiot. Information for the masses and no information for the classes. Guess which one you gobble up.
Julian Butler
Did they already know in late 2015 that republicans were going to win? Cause that's when they started raising the interest rate.
Alexander Gomez
>Affirmative action is such a minute thing it impacts no one
We will see about that when the results of this investigation are released: ttps://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/26/us/politics/yale-asian-americans-discrimination-investigation.html
Landon Brooks
Nolan Hill
Chase Phillips
He admits he's actually betting against the market while GOP controls the entire govt.. lol
Kevin Gutierrez
>the president takes credit for the stock market performance
nevermind the fact that congress was controlled by the opposite party most of the time. this looks like the work of that obama leaf that shits up Jow Forums
William Scott
easy.
when republicans are leading you are seeing actual real growth that isn't exagerrated.
when dems are leading we get this hyper speculate bubble tier gains where everything is overvalued.
tld;r the gains during dem leaders are fake bubble gains.
tl;dr the elites crash the market to make seem republicans bad
Angel Roberts
If it was already a bubble why did Drumpf cut taxes and explode the deficit? And why is he complaining about interest rate hikes?
Luke Rogers
>Carter being the odd outlier doesn't change anything.
well he did appoint the only decent fed chairman in a long time
>The average rise is nearly twice for republicans than democrats. The raising during clintons term was from 2.5% to 6.4% over his two terms. Bush went from 1% to 5%.
greenspan took control of the fed in 1987 and dropped rates in response to the 1987 crash, and then again during the S&L crisis. in an attempt to slow down the market in the early-mid 90s he raised rates very rapidly. it cooled and then kept pumping afterwards (soft landing). he cut rates again in 1998 (in response to long term capital management collapsing) and cut rates like crazy after the dot com burst and 9/11.
ive never understood why he raised rates like crazy from 2004 onwards given that there was a HUGE credit bubble. might have been aware of it in its early dates and tried to cool it, no idea.
anyway the change in interest rates is more about the market and not what dingus is in the white house at the time. its possible that greenspan was manipulating rates in early 2000s to make bush look like hes doing something (economic recovery based on a housing boom, credit bubble ect) but who knows
Joshua Young
Wtf does the POTUS have to do with a bunch of Boomer retards panic selling in an over valued market
Chase Moore
Psyops to convince people the R/D thing is important, when it's really the nasty fat bankers sitting at the inflation spigot siphoning off everything that's good in the world.
ANARCHY WILL WIN YOU SOCIALIST SCUM
Leo Bell
>unions are good because they establish minimum working conditions and wages!
>importing illegals who work for peanuts is a good thing
Leftists, everyone.
Lucas Sanders
Isn't globalism fun?
Oliver Diaz
Cutting taxes is pretty much always a good thing.
Evan Gonzalez
Based retard.
Nathaniel Miller
>we must raise wage tax and the minimum wage!
>if you lose your job to someone who illegally works under minimum wage, that’s your fault lolol
Both of these statements come from the same people.
Lucas Sanchez
You're not engaging with what I said at all. Why even quote my post when you're just bringing up tangentially related talking points?
Liam Thomas
source?
>my ass
Ethan Howard
probably better to reduce the huge deficit (and by extension the gigantic level of public debt) before cutting taxes across the board
Jason Butler
>cut taxes
>unemployment craters
>gradually wind down bloated/unnecessary government institutions, allowing the government workers to naturally flow into non-government employment
Trump is a genius.
Lincoln Cook
the economy is still pumping from the 2009 recovery and having interest rates at 0% for a long fucking time
>gradually wind down bloated/unnecessary government institutions, allowing the government workers to naturally flow into non-government employment
i agree with this, as long as the deficit is reduced as opposed to redirecting those funds into something that is also bloated as shit (military)
Joshua Bell
>the economy is still pumping from the 2009 recovery and having interest rates at 0% for a long fucking time
But I thought the economy was going to crash as soon as Drumpf took office?
>i agree with this, as long as the deficit is reduced as opposed to redirecting those funds into something that is also bloated as shit (military)
He hasn't really begun winding down any bloated/unnecessary government institutions yet though.
My guess is that he will, as part of his strategy. It would free up a lot of money.