so anons, with youtube money making coming from ads and views, is it viable to create a youtube channel and pay somebody to create artificial views and subs?
i know this probably already happens a lot but how often do you think it happens and how viable of a method do you think it is to make money?
Imagine being this stoopid.
Id rather play sudoky than become a twitch streamer and or move to la to irl stream
thanks for bumping the thread buddy
$1 per thousand views if you're lucky. Adsense has automatic flagging and detection for anomalies for view and ad botting. This is not 2006 son, damn you're a brainlet.
Thats so dumb
so not a single youtuber does it?
The fucking state of biz
I assume most of that is patreon and donations.
Youtubers initially bot views to get a following I assume, but it's not profitable to get adsense money off botted views. Think about it like this if you search up a topic, would you watch the video with 100 views or 10k views? People would bot a decent amount of views to create a fake following, in order to get legitimate organic followers.
i see
thank you
I am pretty sure PewDiePie used something called a Mobile Views Bot in 2011/2012 to get famous. It was basically a program from Black Hat Seo sites that allowed you to send a bunch of mobile views per minute and youtube would detect them as valid the way the algorithm worked. At the end of 2012 I think google caught on but by then PewDiePie was big.
imagine being such a gamer brainlet that you keep a 5.5 mill paypal balance.
Imagine being this stoopid and actually believing that he keeps 5 mill on Paypal. That Pic is a meme dumbass.
i tried this 4 years ago when i was desperate for money
it doesnt work
Within the last year I've seen a handful of channels get botted (socialblade showing hundreds of thousands of views) for a single day, then about a month or two on the same day they'd all have their stats purged of the fake views.
Leads me to believe they can't ban a channel for getting fake views, because then you can commission them to bot a rival channel so you'd be able to get anybody deleted. Shortly after getting the fake views the algorithm should start recommending your content to people watching related videos unless they've taken that situation into account and it puts you on some sort of probation period.
How do these bots work any way? Obtaining and controlling hundreds of thousands of proxies or hacked computers is ridiculous.
If only there was a automated way..
Automated way of doing what?
They can't all have massive botnets. There are way too many bot view sellers for all kinds of stuff.
From how I use to do it, there was a service where you left your PC running to get credits. And your PC would just be auto cycling through videos. And then you could use the credits to get your videos on the cycle list. It was a neat little thing.
Are you telling me there's people who watch several minutes of content just to increase their own video's view count by 1? And there's lots of fools like that?
>leave pc running
Still almost as dumb. 1 view every few minutes.
No. It was an auto cycle. Like you just left a page open and it'd register the video in the background. And when you bought in, your video got put on the cycle list. In front of thousands. So you'd start gaining views quickly. Remember it's thousands of people doing this, each auto watching each other's videos.
Cool. I just read about YTmonster. Seems like something you definitely should hit (comments too) when releasing videos.
Gaming twitter is incredibly easy, I didn't realize youtube would be as well.
Actual fact I did that in the past to get some quick Buck it actually worked I just uploaded a video , use a bot to get to 30k views aprox and thats easy 30 dollars here ,I used various bots but I remember that all that stuff was pretty much dead by 2014 you could still get bot views, not monetized tho
"I just uploaded" I mean in the past around 2011-2012
I always thought pewds was completely organic. Like his Happy Wheels video blew up and it was magic from there
From what I have seen most big youtubers are a mix of organic and a Little extra help of bots
it isn't viable
he abused youtube algo too. Changing countries, speaking english, long ass videos. He showed up on everyone's feed.
viewbotting exists but you're paying more than you're making obviously, you do it for exposure
There's more money in twitch anyways, you get $2.50 per subscription, so even some nobody with "only" 3k subs is pulling nearly $90k yearly from just subscriptions alone. And that's a steady income too, it's not as unreliable as relying on adsense views or donations. Factor in donations/products/patreon etc and mid-tier streamers make 6-figures easily, and high-tier meme streamers are making millions in income alone, not even factoring in sponsorships and profit-sharing/equity in games they co-develop or co-own
Wait how do you game twitter? Is there something just as easy as YTMonster?
>today in user's tax-free world
Have you seen some of these autistic streamers on twitch? Some of these dumbasses are pulling 15,000 subscriptions per month, just for making a view joke and laughing at a donation message here or there while playing deadMOBAofthemonth. After tax that's still a life-changing amount of money for incredibly tiny capital
I know that Bizonacci is using Skycoin to bot up his views. Pretty sketchy if you ask me.
>cant even get 50 followers on twitch
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