Why is there no large tech companies from Europe?, there is no European ecommerce giant, should I try to start my own?

Like what. Germans use Amazon religiously

ABB

>whew, it's sure great to have giant "too big to fail" corporations!
>i love centralization and monopolies!
>lack of alternatives and anti-competivive practices makes me happy!
>[suddenly finds out that corporations spy on him and sell his private data to the highest bidder]
>REEEE muh corporatism, muh crony capitalism, muh bail outs, muh surveillance REEEEEEE IT'S NOT *REAL* CAPITALISM!

every fucking time

>inb4 b-but i-it's all because of the big gubmint! Ancap ftw!

Pixmania is probably is the largest european e-commerce supplier for tech.

In the benelux you have online shops like bol.com and coolblue that outperform amazon by far.

>Why is there no large tech companies from Europe?
t. retard

meant for

>Oui, oui, what eef like
*Sips merlot*
>what eef like Paypal
*nibbles baguette*
>but for le beetcoins
*surrenders*

The absolute state of European "technology"

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The funniest thing is that your credit or debit card is probably made in France by Gemalto (Thales).

because their best and brightest were all killed in ww2. the best of the rest move to the USA.

Also Nexans, Sagem and Siemens

SAP
go fuck yourself

>Renault sells more EV than Tesla
>Renault EVs are actually probitable
wew

Siemans isn't exactly small

SWIFT

apart from siemens, literally who?

there are some but obviously the best environment for big companies and rich people is murica

therefore living in non parasite eu countries is way better than living in the us (assuming you are not rich)
>free education
>free healthcare

>inb4 muricafats who have never been in austria, germany or alike will disagree since they cant grasp how shitty their system even is if you are not rich

>more than 50% tax
>good system
it has its tradeoffs i guess

I doubt that the averade dude in any country in Europe has to pay 50% tax.
However, with that tax, you got
>healtcare
>education
>retirement
>unemployement insurance
>top-tier infrastructure
covered
That's pretty good. That's why big EU tech companies are hardware rather than software.

lol its not a 50% flat tax
as i said if you are not rich (which most people arent) its way better to live in mentioned eu countries

i mean what % of young people has dept in the us? i dont even know a single person from my uni that has dept or money issues due to health care stuff

im happy to pay those higher taxes for that. especially since as a student i only work minimum wage which is free of taxes.

>lol its not a 50% flat tax

>this excludes social security

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Philips.

Where's that ?

austria

Italy current tax rate is 68%, when the tax agency doesn't screw up and start asking for random money. For example they are still asking me 3000euro for each year I've had a business with zero income from 2011 to 2018... except that I never had any business from 2011 to 2018.

what is the table supposed to show? taxes are not that simple and europe is not one country so thats even more retarded

>i dont even know a single person from my uni that has dept or money issues due to health care stuff
i know not a single person from uni which is in dept to go to uni,

well once you are in breacket 4 you are not middle class anymore and can live ultra comfy even in expensice neighborhoods... i mean ofc you earn way less compared to the us BUT you just cannot compare it. i mean usually in murica before you earn anything worth talking about you have tons of dept. while when i start working after uni i have 0 dept.

if you compare earnings you also need to compare expenditures.

well if you are rich and your parents pay for your education in murica sure. stop assuming everyone is rich. most arent

You mean the same national healthcare systems that dicks people around, is slow, ineffective, and full of shit skins? The same one that people with who care about them and their families well-being avoid and all pay for private health insurance? And what about the retirement package provided by your government? It's completely unsustainable and instead of biting the bullet and cutting benefits, leaders like Merkel use it as an excuse to flood Europe with more shit skins who only cost you tax payers more money, while they try to turn Europe into an extension of the Middle East and destroy European culture.

bracket 5*

we dont live to serve the jew, thats why they create their companies in the usa keeping the population poor.

>what is the table supposed to show
Income tax brackets

>taxes are not that simple
I explicitly stated that several taxes were not included in this figure

>europe is not one country
great insight for an american

>so thats even more retarded
If only the post I was replying to named some countries hmmmmm.... really rustles the jimmies

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learn to read, im talking about europe regarding debt from unis and the one i quote is too

It's brackets, you mong
Gross average income is 43500€/year
The guy there has
>11k€ taxed at 0%
>7k€ taxed at 25%
>13k€ taxed at 35%
>12.5k€ taxed at 42%
That's a 27% effective tax rate for someone earning an average wage.

Every national healthcare system in europe works better than the US healthcare system. The best indicator for this is life expectancy
>yfw americans live 5 years less than europeans

sounds shit yes. but thats not how it is. dunno where you got that from. have been in the hospital numerous times and private health care (at least in austria) is a meme for idiots. the fun part is that the private health care clinics are so shitty that if you have anthing srs you get transferred to the public clinic and end up in the same room as those with public health care.

your quoted post does not mention austria faggot and that table is so oversimplified it could only be posted by an butthurt burger

that's quite rich for someone telling others to learn to read, isn't it?

Then you add 17.6% on the employee-side social security. And on the employer-side another 22.5% for the other social security.

With the little 27% tax rate you're left with some generous 40% or so of what your employer is "paying" you.

You have no idea just how high the baseline tax is, bucko.

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Americans will go trough heaps of mental gymnastics just to conceal that their shitty healthcare costs them 5 years of their life.

>Then you add
No, that was taken before. Social security payments are before tax, so you gotta remove them from the income tax.
It goes like this
>total sum paid by employeer
53000
>gross salary
43500 - that's your baseline
>salary after ss payments
34800
>salary after income tax
32000
That's an effective 26% tax.

>Get paid 20k
>Employer pays 22.5% of that right to the state
(now 15.5k)
>You now pay 17.6% social security :^)
(now 12.8k)
>You now pay income tax (11k tax free, 1.8k @ 25%)
(now 12.3k)

Effective tax 38.5% assuming you make 20k a year which is dirt poor (as in cannot afford rent and food poor)

That's not how it works in Europe.
Your wage is always stated after employer social security payments.
So if you get paid 20k, you have to pay the social security (18%, 16k€ left) and income tax on what's left on that income (here, 5k at 25%, 14750€ left).
Also, I don't know about prices in Austria, but what I see on Numbeo would tell me that you can easily live well with around 15k€ yearly in Vienna.

I get great care in the US. I can just afford it.

Everything runs on SAP. Comfy SAP/ABAP developer here.

Also that's about 25% effective tax rate.

because europe has been socialist for much longer than america

this is the only reason

it's clear you don't live in europe fuckface i pay 40%+ tax you piece of shit and i only make 2500 euros (net)

Because Europe is fucking stupid