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Isaac Lee
Dear /biz. When you read this thread. Consider how the two sides interact with you. Which side appreciates and supports your intellect? Which side supports you doing your own research, and thinking about economic fundamentals? Which side talks out of the ass and throws around insults?
I hope these questions help you see beyond the veil.
Adam Foster
Let's start with a little red pill, shall we?
This message is to the genuine believers of Bitcoin. Those who believe in individual sovereignty, sound money, and free trade.
If you still believe BTC is the Bitcoin you wanted, I suggest you watch the video.
Kevin Walker
Let's try and read a little history. See for yourself if I am a raging idiot conspiracy nut or an autistic savant who saw through the psyop.
This timeline of events is helpful.
ohmysatoshi.com
Key insight on why the LN is a hijack of the network.
>Satoshi on Scaling
Satoshi tells Mike Hearn "The existing visa network processes about 15 million Internet purchases a day worldwide. Bitcoin can already scale much larger than that with existing hardware for a fraction of the cost. It never really hits a scale ceiling... By Moore's Law, we can expect hardware speed to be 10 times faster in 5 years and 100 times faster in 10. Even If Bitcoin grows at crazy adoption rates, I think computer speeds will stay ahead of the number of transactions."
Satoshi also mentions that "The fee the market would settle on should be minimal".
Luis Wilson
Let's debunk some arguments.
>Big Blocks cannot scale.
medium.com
1 • What size block solves high fees?
core says
>A 10MB blocksize today would barely graze the real scaling problem, but in 3 short years would have us securing a blockchain nearly 2TB in size and growing at a far faster rate.
Don't worry. Bitcoin Cash is going for unlimited blocksize and storage is super cheap (especially for enterprising miners).
Aiden Hughes
2 • Is there any way to safely get 1000x capacity?
core says
>If we can get 1000x the capacity right now ..., without any consensus breaking blocksize increase, then there is hope that a decentralized currency AND payment system is possible on a single... chain.
Essentially the argument here is that hard forks are "consensus breaking" and that they are not "safe".
Bitcoin Cash (and Satoshi) disagrees.
>pic related
Luis James
3 • Are Lightning/Sidechains just another trade off?
Pretty much. Watch and consider 4 • Is the Bitcoin blockchain really a better payment network?
Yes. Until Core destroyed its utility. Pic related.
Jason Baker
5 • Bitcoin’s resilience is dependent upon the distribution of validators.
This is the best and most important argument for small blockers.
They believe that having a decentralized mining distribution helps protect the network.
This is wrong for two reasons.
Reason 1 (less important) is this. ASICs are unavoidable because technology and how POW operates. Mining is a capital intensive operation. This is desirable for security reasons. This means that mining will ALWAYS trend towards centralization.
>pic related
>btc vs bch hashpower distribution.
Jose Jackson
god I hate SEA monkeys
Ryan Rogers
Reason 2. Non-mining nodes do nothing to secure the network. They can "invalidate" incoming transactions, but because they are not mining, their invalidation means nothing to mining nodes.
In practice, especially as Bitcoin is young and the community small, it's possible for miners to choose what is "democratically" chosen over what makes sense "economically",
The core concept of UASF was NOT that non-mining nodes "saved" the network, but that enough users "voted" the miners to accept the core version of "consensus."
These methods go against the economic incentives of Bitcoin (miners choose to mine the most profitable chain) and is not a sustainable solution.
Brandon Parker
how much BCH for the monkey?
Chase Cruz
6 • Is large block latency and resource cost really negligible?
Yes, for institutional miners. As we saw in points 1,2, 5, and pic related. We don't need non-mining nodes. We need massively capital intensive miners running server farms to provide massive security to global sound money.
7 • How will scaling affect Bitcoin privacy?
>core thinks LN is better for privacy then BCH.
>pic related
Read the whole infographic, but simply put is this:
>LN channels are money transmitters and will be subject to KYC/AML procedures.
This is not the case for on-chain transactions.
Jaxson Hernandez
Fuck you if you hate money.
Fuck you if you hate people.
I have no time to convince you if you don't understand.
Benjamin Martinez
Lincoln White
Wtf I thought Bcash was a scam
Is all this true biz have I been lied to
Camden Perez
Who is that? Thai Dan Bilzerian?
Eli Miller
It still is a scam which feeds the pockets of Jihan Wu, who literally invented it because core circumvented his haxx
Justin Murphy
Bentley Collins
>Jihan invented Bitcoin cash
>unironically being this much of a fool
I hope you are paid well for your ignorance user.
Tyler Jones
Checked.
David Ward
Price still sucks though ... :/ best advertising is the ticker, sadly. But also for real. Losses have hurt many. Including those who have locked and found the truth.
Luis Wright
Logan Hernandez
Roll
James Morgan
rollindo
Aiden Butler
Good. Would fill her with my seed
Juan Sanders
rolling for 8
Aiden Cooper
oof
Michael Hill
one more time for 8
Isaac Ward
Only jungle pussy for you
Landon Barnes
Elijah Roberts
Hudson Mitchell
wat a qt
Ryan Campbell
more qts
Ian Young
still a qt
Jaxon Carter
rollolol
Joshua Watson
Charles Smith
the kind of tonedeaf advertising bcash does makes it look like one of those hundreds of scam icos that came out last year. what are they thinking?
Zachary Ramirez
It's just me, one Autistic Bitcoin Casher.
It's my thread, I am OP.
So fuck off and sage if you h8 m8
>implying i am marketing.
Kayden Morales
im not talking about bagholders, its the terrible real world advertising they're trying to do.
Elijah Watson
LMFAO
Camden James
u fucking pedo.
what is the terrible advertising?
tshirts?
meetups?
commerce?
Adam Martinez
>1 post by this id
every time
whoops, wrong proxy aye?
Jaxson Howard
I don't hide myself. I always have my name up there. I just had to reset my router you fucking cuck.
Cooper Jenkins
Why do I see alot of poor Filipinos wearing BCH tshirts?
Justin Flores
sure, that's why you magically are back to your original id 3 minutes later right...
whats it like working for bitcoin.com?
do they pay you in bch at least?
Zachary Rogers
I forgot you prefer men user. here's a pic for you.
I used my cell hotspot while waiting for my router. It's not magic user. (you fucking idiot)
Camden Brown
Jaxon Harris
you posted this then posted 30 minutes later you posted 4 pics on this id then 3 minutes later you're back to your original id because you reset your router and switched back from your phone hotspot.
that makes no sense you fucking retard shill.
Isaac Kelly
Notice how I am always Autistic Bitcoin Casher.
You are an idiot and do not matter.
Think about pic related.
Nathaniel Barnes
like its fucking hard to remember take the namefaggot shit off when you're samefagging.
its a little harder to remember the proxy though, which is where your dumb ass fucked up twice now
Anthony Scott
Bcash is so fucking tragic.
Almost as tragic as it's shills.
Camden Hernandez
IMMO?
Justin Thompson
what a bunch of fucking idiots.
If you have two brain cells to rub together go read
Owen Lewis
I AM NOT A FAGGOT U CUNT
Landon Richardson
Easton Diaz
So Roger Ver's latest "advertising campaign" consists of going to various jungles and giving ugly gooks free shirts?
Sebastian Evans
Evan Cruz
you must be the dumbest shill to ever come to this board.
you can still be an hero though.
you should look into it.
Carson Miller
>pay jungle tribe females who don't even own computers or have internet access to wear tshirt
>good marketing
What the fuck?
Asher Ross
Hello Jow Forumsmen with a brain.
look at these idiots.
They literally cannot refute a single point.
Instead, what do they focus on?
>monkeys
>roger ver
>jungle
>jihan
>bcash
These are the mewling of useful idiots who do not understand anything.
Remember, Bitcoin is Cash.
It was ALWAYS meant to be P2P electronic cash.
Bitcoin is Bitcoin CASH.
Justin Ward
At 1 GB blocks bitcon can handle 605 Million transactions a day, with 7.7 Billion people alive today this means every person can make only 1 transaction every 12.72 days - and we have already seen that BCH shits itself at blocks bigger than 16MB.
At 1GB the chain grows ~38000GB / year. It would be impossible to run and sync your onlineshops node on that.
It's literally that easy to see that it doesn't work and it only takes 2 minutes to calculate.
It's brainlets like op falling for the bch scam. Don't fall fot it.
Camden Hill
Hi there user! Thanks for an actually thought out reply. Allow me to respond.
>we have already seen that BCH shits itself at blocks bigger than 16MB.
This is actually a great reason to remove the limit. The blocksize limits actually stagnate miner competition. That is the only reason why there are still big mining pools that cannot handle large blocks. They will be swiftly pushed out by competition.
You can buy 1TB SSDs for less than $150 TODAY. Please consider
If we recognize that SPVs are totally safe and that non-mining full nodes are useless, why would enterprise miners not be able to afford 50TB storage space in say, two years from now?
Brandon Garcia
>It would be impossible to run and sync your onlineshops node on that.
what did he even say about hard drive size?
also
>"Businesses that receive frequent payments will probably still want to
run their own nodes for more independent security and quicker verification."
ring any bells?
Brody Price
I like that you're taking some effort trying to wrap your head around this but you miss big chunk of technical understanding about global data transmission rates, node sync time, ram usage of the software etc. and I'm honestly not willing to roll out a cs degree for you here.
Not understanding all of this is ok - I have btfo profs at my uni trying to explain to me how things work - it happens - people make mistakes.
Just buy bch, get rekt, and learn the hard way. It's sad but some people are simply unable to comprehend.
David Campbell
Josiah Butler
fuck off, here's why:
>you faggots are just shillers
when facts are brought forth and crush you dumbfucks you just let the thread die. there is no learning, there is no progress to be made. you paid shillers just start a new shill thread and copy-paste the same reddit blather along with more pics of reddit memes and chicks wearing tshirts and Ver and Wright. this is what paid shilling looks like. KYS please
Blake Garcia
Where can I buy small amount of bitcoin with a prepaid debit card at? Small like .001BTC. I tried a few already but they don't accept prepaid or don't do business in US.
Nicholas Diaz
youtube.com
This is my answer for "why Bitcoin can scale." Check it out! I think expecting global sound money to operate on Raspberry pis is irresponsible.
I think eventually a Bitcoin insurance industry will collect a small annual fee for insuring double spends and orphan issues. It's easier than insuring credit card fraud because data is transparent.
I actually like you, because I think at least you believe in global money. Best of luck, I admit that I may be mistaken.
You are an idiot. I can't prove to you I am not a paid shiller, but if you can look at what I, or any other bcasher is doing objectively... it's clear we are at the very least mass deluded.
No marketing budget can support this much autism.
try being an earner at purse.io. You can buy amazon gift cards with prepaid and buy bitcoin with amazon gift cards.
Why not try Bitcoin Cash? IMO it just works better.
Jacob Torres
I downloaded this pic because it disagrees with my thesis. (That BTC cannot scale).
Like says....
Maybe I need to "just buy bch, get rekt, and learn the hard way."
Or maybe corecucks need to buy btc, get rekt, and learn the hard way. It's sad but some people are simply unable to comprehend.
Hudson Moore
Would impregnate 5 and 6 and leave the country.
Ian Robinson
Joshua Smith
Eli Richardson
>Why not try Bitcoin Cash? IMO it just works better.
My ultimate goal is other currencies, not btc or bcc. Purse.io sounds like a scam.
Jace Cruz
based and redpilled
Carson Green
I have used it multiple times, there are many others who have used it. It's a real company incorporated in San Francisco. purse.io
Chase Jones
Let me rephrase: It's a fucking stupid idea. What makes you think I shop online for shit anyways? Forget me asking, you autistic motherfuck. Fuck you and fuck bitcoinn cASSh
Ryan Lewis
go boil your head and get fucked
Thomas Gonzalez
Sounds like the type of insult a gook would use.
Blake Turner
no u
Hudson Green
check this out cardcoins.co
also get fuckt
Leo Mitchell
>check this out
How about not?
Fuck you and your gook coin, I'm out!
Chase Torres
get fucked then
Robert Martinez
this is all true. Bitcoin core is the scam.
Lincoln Williams
what a gross druggie whore
Ian Bell
Bitcoin Cash is available for people who can not afford high fees.
Pic related. It's Venezuela.
Logan Price
you are not correct. with 5G, FIber and soon even faster transfer this is all not an issue.
running a global money system on our current network doesn't work, indeed, but do you really think that we wont start making better networks? you really can't see this happening?
I'll tell you this.
The real added value that Bitcoin and Pow mining "sound" internet money willl bring is technologic advancement you have never seen.
Once Bitcoin ( BCH ) reaches 50k every country will start specialized datacenters and research centers to develop the best chips and best tech to mine and keep up this ever growing hashrate. Proof of stake networks will not bring this advancement. Hence the countries that have the mining operations will do the new discoveries and will be the big powers of the future.
You r really really small and narrow minded bro.
I guess that's how you like it, small, small blocks small mind.
i doubt you are smarter than your compsci teacher.
Kevin Ward
Reality is (that Bitcoin is) BCH
Camden Ward
Isaiah Thomas
Jonathan Collins
Anthony Gutierrez
1gb is just the max size of the block and just like Visa/Mastercard BCH would have high and low periods of usage resulting in variable block sizes;
bch network shit the bed @16mb blocks mostly because of block propagation latency
Robert Adams
>bch network shit the bed @ 16 mb blocks
>citation needed
What's actually true is that some miners are just much better at mining bigger blocks then others.
>pic related
Adrian Green
Leo Hughes
p2p electronic cash for the entire world is the killer application of Bitcoin.
It kills poverty and releases creativity.
Bitcoin is Cash.
Nolan Martin
BTC isn't growing in adoption. BCH is.
Moon soon.
Grayson Evans
Good possibility that I invented BCH PLS meme.
Jaxson Diaz
Ooga booga
Dominic Torres
I mean it kind of invents itself...
David Evans
you are gross