Is college a good investment?

Is college a good investment?

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Education is never not a not so good possible could never be worthless endeavor

If you have a long term plan to stay in the field yes. Accounting, Nursing, IT/CS, Engineering, everything else for the most part is a meme.

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t. wageslave in tax making shlomostein money

absolutely fucking not. if you want to wagecuck learn computer science on your own and apply to google. If you want to be rich learn computer science and make bullshit apps and go all in on crypto

this. aside from this. college is scam.

American minority here. Its nice having free college from you white man. Thanks for the education. I really dont deserve it but my parents never married so we can play the welfare system lol.

Not if you fucking suck. Stay away
Don’t go for gym coaching or something dumb. You just annoy and waste space on campus. If you don’t why you need to be there, you don’t need to.

I disagree. When I was 18, I had a long term plan to stay in mechanical engineering. Now I'm a mechanical engineer and I regret it. I sit in a cubicle and follow the codes and standards for more than 40 hours per week. I will most likely be in a cubicle for my entire career, as the project managers and even the VP of our office all sit in cubicles. Searching Google for what else I am qualified for has become a daily occurrence. So far, I haven't found another career that is worth the risk of abandoning my current career.

So anyway, what you think you want when you're 18 is not what you will want in 10 years.

im in my third year as an mis major and every day i ask myself wtf im doing here. i haven't had to pay for anything with my own money though due to scholarships. sometimes wish i would just get a trade job. always considered trying to become an industrial electrician or something.

You can leverage a degree for more, don’t be an idiot. You go into a trade you are firmly stuck in that job and sector. You have no way to progress other than to own your own business which is very time consuming and risky.

good point i think i'll be miserable either way

You sound like a miserable sap. Is there nothing you actually want to do?

Unfortunately there's a bit more than that from my comment. The longer answer is to go into the field and not pigeonhole yourself. I hate college because they never tell you that you should always have one foot in the door at all times which is the only way to progress fast and/or have decent job security. If you actually can sit in a cubical and do business taxes for 50 years, that's great. A lot people can't do that and everything today is specialized work now.

I was successful to run all over the place from big, to equity fund auditing/tax and now in business analytics but I had to do a lot of cock sucking, ass kissing and pretending I give a shit about half of these fucking kikes out there. If I had to do it over again, I'd just go be a mechanic or some shit, keep up to date on technology and electrical applications and eventually run my own business. You can be successful from college, it's just now since there's so many kids in school and so many scams, that it might be better to just fuck off to a specialized trade since these retards shame them. College definitely isn't what all our boomer parents said it was...go to school and get a high paying job right after graduation.

lol this for undergrad
I still ended up having to pay out the ass for pharmacy school though.

Depends on the person. I'm too retarded to keep up with engineering or anything along those lines so now I'm stuck with a marketing degree. Also watching people "network" in the business school will make you sick to your stomach. It borders on begging to suck someones cock to slave 50 hrs a week

#PunchAZoomer

Yes if you go to a cheap state school in STEM, or a top 10 school (any degree).

No for pretty much any other scenario.

bis ad major here, I agree with you that it's disgusting

NO

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That's nice that you can jump around to different fields and it's good for your career. In engineering, changing fields means starting your career over so whatever you're doing after 3 years is pretty much what you're making a career in. This is especially true if your line of work involves getting licensed after 4 years, like mine does.

It's not as bad as I made it sound. In college, they kind of oversell engineering and make everyone think they'll all be astronauts when in reality that's not the case. I kind of want to be a financial advisor and Jow Forumspost in real life, but I need to save up enough money that I can take the initial pay cut first.

the golden handcuffs... im in the same position as you. I studied EE and have wasted 3 years at an arch/eng firm making a "competitive salary"

>the client is your boss
>the architect is your boss
>the head engineer is your boss
>the electrician thinks youre an idiot until they fuck something up, then they blame "the person with the fancy degree who should have known better"

if youre studying STEM or some other technical field, either get a business minor or make friends who can help you start a business after school

otherwise you will fall into the "competitive salary" meme and die a million deaths every day, making money for someone else

tldr know what you want out of school, and how the program will help you start a business selling a product or service you created. otherwise you will waste time and money only to end up stuck trading your time for dollars for the rest of your life.

I'm an HVAC engineer at an MEP firm. The pay is not bad. I make about the same as all my college friends who got straight A's and then fell for the Lockheed Martin meme. That's mainly because I get paid for overtime and they don't. But, I've grown to hate architects and contractors over the years for the endless bullshit we put up with.

so depending on how long you've worked there and where you are geographically, you probably make in the neighborhood of 55-70k (i.e. ~22.5-35$ hourly)
additionally, depending on how much cost estimating you do... you may or may not know that they likely bill your time out at AT LEAST 3x what they pay you...
some people may be alright with that, but it is terribly depressing to me

sorry meant to point to

I'm aware of it and I try not to think about it. I also think the PM's meme that every project you're working on is losing money. It's very suspicious that we have so many projects losing money, but the office somehow maintains 20% profit margins.