Hey all, these last two threads weve had on ASX/DAH/ChainLink have been really fantastic, thanks for the help in keeping them going. I have slightly more info from some digging. So in a previous thread(warosu.org/biz/thread/S11589877#p11591564) I posted a link to this video: >youtube.com/watch?v=CKIlRzImCu4
Nobody really bit on it.
The video is good, its Blythe with the CEO of ASX discussing the rollout of the new DLT system for ASX that will replace CHESS. Im pretty sure this is during SIBOS (Swift) in Sydney. Definitely a convenient location.
They get into questions around the 40 minutes mark and at 43 minutes a guy named "Ian Bessarabia" asks a question. I just figured he had a goofy name so I looked into him.
Kevin Morris
So, Ian Bessarabia Heres a bio of him from one conference:
"In addition, Ian has held senior positions in various industry initiatives, including holding the position of chairperson of SUSA (SWIFT Users of South Africa), as well as the South African representative on the Maintenance Working group for Trade Initiation and Confirmation messages. Ian, currently represents Thomson Reuters on the South African Financial Blockchain Consortium (SAFBC), a consortium aimed at educating and bringing the benefits of blockchain technology to the industry for the benefit of the entire country"
"Ian Bessarabia: ConsenSys Ian Bessarabia, holds a Bachelor of Commerce in Business Management and Economics from the University of South Africa and a Diploma in Strategic Business Management from the University of Cape Town. Working collaboratively with financial market players, central banks and regional bodies across Sub-Saharan Africa, with a focus on improving business processes, and his passion for community upliftment through technology is what drives him to educate the broader market of the benefits to come. He thrives on mentoring start-ups and early-stage initiatives looking at deploying technology for social good. As an ethical protagonist, he is also a participant of the Ethics and Governance Think Tank, run by The University of Pretoria’s Gordon Institute of Business Science (GIB’s), under the stewardship of Rabbi Gideon Pogrund. Having held senior positions in various industry initiatives throughout his career, he is now tasked to support the implementation of enterprise Blockchain solution as Head of South African Operations at ConsenSys a New York based company"
Head of South African Operations at ConsenSys a New York based company
Cool yeah?
So I figure whats this guy up to I wonder if he knows about oracles or cares
Nolan Reyes
Is breadcrumbs the next evolution of autism?
Gavin Morales
Apparently hes definitely into oracles, so much so that his whole talk for Blockchain Africa Conference 2018 is on them
> "Ian Bessarabia - What’s a Blockchain Oracle and Why Do They Matter?"
ITS solely on the importance of orcales
A minor side note. This video he uploaded himself, but the WHOLE THING IS 20 MINUTES LONG BUT IS NOT AVAILABLE ON YOUTUBE DUE TO VIOLATING NBC’S COPYWRIGHT. Wtf?
So every other talk for 4 years of conferences is on this conferences youtube channel, but not this guys? And he then uploads a partial version of it? Would like to hear the other half so maybe this viilation is not active in europe or something. Give it a shot guys and lemme know.
I wonder also did he actually violate NBC's copywright? Maybe some example he gave? Who knows.
truthfully I know nothing about blockchain in south africa or in africa in general, but at the same conference the head of Microsoft Azure gives a good talk and mentions oracles and off chain computing a bit
"At the time of writing, Barclays Africa is the only South African bank to sign up with the international R3 consortium investigating blockchain use cases. The consortium is working on a distributed ledger platform called Corda, specifically designed for financial services. Baker says a couple of his developers are in London working on the Corda syndicated loan platform."
This is all pretty specious even for me I know, but I figure if you all do some autismoing we can find more.
This article mentions just about every oracle provider besides chainlink. Not sure if thats hilarious or not.
"Thomson Reuters is not alone in its aim to provide reliable data to the executors of smart contracts.
Startups like Augur and Gnosis use prediction markets to generate reliable data. Further, firms like Oraclize are building hardware-based solutions for accessing reliable data. And last month Cornell University released its own oracle called 'Town Crier', which uses software guard extensions to help ensure the reliability of the data."
"BlockOne IQ is only compatible with Corda, Ethereum & Quorum based networks. Other technology platforms will follow based on demand.
BlockOne IQ is currently in beta and is available for Proof-of-Concepts only. It's an experiment and we really want feedback so let us know what you think."
whats the over under on how successful this project is?
Heres ian again. I onlt found this by searching for "crypto edgewalkers" bc he constantly refers to himself as that and its such a ridiculous term but uniqure
Secretary: Ms Emily Dawson Chairperson (until end 2019): Mr Craig Dunn ISO Technical Programme Manager : Mr Ben Carson ISO Editorial Programme Manager : Mrs Yvonne Chen M Julien Bringer Mr Takeo Nishikata Roman Klaus Beck Eric E Cohen Ing Volker Skwarek
ISO/TC 307 - Secretariat SA Australia Standards Australia Level 10, The Exchange Centre 20 Bridge Street Sydney 2000 NSW Australia Tel: +61 2 9237 6000 Fax: +61 2 9237 6010 Email: [email protected] Web: standards.org.au/ Secretariat direct: Ms Emily Dawson Email: [email protected]
Heres is the ISO committee's strategic business plan for block chain and dlt standardization
Some exceprts
"The scope of ISO/TC 307 reads: “standardisation of blockchain technologies and distributed ledger technologies.” As of 2018-03-13, the standardization work of ISO/TC 307 has been divided into six groups: ● WG 1 Foundations; ● WG 2 Security, privacy and identity; ● WG 3 Smart contracts and their applications; ● SG 2 Use cases; ● SG 6 Governance; ● SG 7 Interoperability. Blockchain and distributed ledger technologies is a rapidly evolving and expanding area. The need for collaboration and cooperation has been identified and ISO/TC 307 is liaising with the relevant ISO and IEC committees, as well as external organizations, to minimize any overlap. "
Liam Turner
Excerpts, continuted:
"Three bodies are responsible for the planning, development and adoption of International Standards: ISO (International Organization for Standardization) is responsible for all sectors excluding Electrotechnical, which is the responsibility of IEC (International Electrotechnical Committee), and most of the Telecommunications Technologies, which are largely the responsibility of ITU (International Telecommunication Union). ISO is a legal association, the members of which are the National Standards Bodies (NSBs) of some 164 countries (organizations representing social and economic interests at the international level), supported by a Central Secretariat based in Geneva, Switzerland. The principal deliverable of ISO is the International Standard. An International Standard embodies the essential principles of global openness and transparency, consensus and technical coherence. These are safeguarded through its development in an ISO Technical Committee (ISO/TC), representative of all interested parties, supported by a public comment phase (the ISO Technical Enquiry). ISO and its Technical Committees are also able to offer the ISO Technical Specification (ISO/TS), the ISO Public Available Specification (ISO/PAS) and the ISO Technical Report (ISO/TR) as solutions to market needs. These ISO products represent lower levels of consensus and have therefore not the same status as an International Standard. ISO offers also the International Workshop Agreement (IWA) as a deliverable which aims to bridge the gap between the activities of consortia and the formal process of standardization represented by ISO and its national members. "
Tyler Gomez
Excerpts, Continued
Though no ISO standards currently exist for blockchain and DLT, a number of related standards have been identified that the group will need to be conscious of in development of standards for blockchain and DLT. These include, at a minimum: ● ISO 20022 series Financial Services – Universal Financial Industry Message Scheme; ● ISO/IEC 17788 Information Technology – Cloud Computing – Overview and Vocabulary; ● ISO/IEC 17789 Information Technology – Cloud Computing – Reference Architecture; ● ISO/IEC 18384 series Information Technology – Reference Architecture for Service Oriented Architecture; ● ISO/IEC 19086 Information Technology – Cloud Computing – Service Level Agreement (SLA) Framework; ● ISO/IEC 27000 series Information Technology – Security Techniques, with profile standards for many industries; ● ISO 29000 series on identity management and privacy; ● ISO 31000 series Risk Management – Principles and Guidelines; ● ISO 10962 series Securities and Related Financial Instruments; ● ISO 6166 series Securities and Related Financial Instruments; ● ISO/IEC 38500 series Information Technology – Governance of IT for the Organization; ● ISO/IEC JTC 1 SC 17 standards on identity related documents, including passports and driving licences. ITU-T has Recommendations that are relevant to ISO/TC 307, particularly on the structured and operation of networks, and on cybersecurity and cyber incident management. IETF, OASIS and W3C also have standards that are relevant to ISO/TC 307
Heres the Aussie Phillipa Ryan who we were talking about in the earlier threads. You search ISO/TC 307 on youtube and this is the first hit
Thomas Anderson
great fucking finds OP. diggin
Jose Brooks
What's this mean?
Isaiah Gomez
Im basically looking into the intersection of:
ISO the international standards Organization, they are standardizing blockchain terminology and best practice, if decentrlaized oracles became their proposed standard for ensuring safe, compliant, smart contracts, that would be huge as fuck, singularity huge
The panel is full of aussies that are associated with ASX and Digital Assets Group
ASX is the first stock market to implement dlt based settlements, replacing their current system called Chess
The Panels has one member \in South Africa who is either Ian Bessarabia or knows him. Ian intersects with oracles, SWIFT, ISO, Blythe Masters, ASX, the works.
Just vague patterns right now but biz has "guessed" alot of chainlink news, im just trying to make a good guess.
Ive never seen this info-graphic before so thank you! Seems like every other Artificial Lawyer article is about Kira. Did you make this infograph? I suck at graphic design shit so its always nice if people help out there in that regard.
Thanks
Thanks
Michael Jones
Also if you guys haven't noticed this thread is more or less moving parallel to what were discusing in here and in the old threads I made.
Alot of this speculation gets more real if we can figure what is white labeled. and if we can figure out what signs we can find that generally indicate a company is using cl in a white labeled fashion
Protip anons, AB wasn't wrong, she just didn't account for the SEC subpoena. Every US based cryptocurrency recieved one, being smartcontracts side based in SF.
Not sure it's been cleared, but it delayed the singularity
This thread is fucking lazy and old. OP made it to wow the newfags so he can try to continue this pump.
We knew AX was getting rid of chess and looking into DLT fucking last year. I remember shilling Chainlink to my dad early December last year and telling him ASX was going to use Chainlink. Because what else would they be using, fucking Bitcoin, Ripple, Mobius. Don't be a dumbass and pretend it's new news. I fucking hate you breadcrumbs shits. When Link takes off I want to use part of my funds to hunt down you hyping little shits and kill you all for denying us low prices. It doesn't matter if you know these details or not, Link will take off anyways. Calm your autism with a fucking video game in the meantime and stop hyping up anons with these fucking shitty annoying breadcrumbs you unbelievable faggot and let the price tank so we can continue buying low.
Ian Campbell
waste of dubs ah well
Luke Smith
This is great fucking find, user. I found out about ISO 200022 from an earlier one of these threads and I think this shit is HUGE.
I SUSPECT, don’t know that a huge part of driving adoption here is going to be the adoption of these standards, with chainlink being the only oracle that satisfies the standard. Watching their competitors, and I don’t see any evidence that they are thinking about these standards.
Easton Young
I think you’re on the right fucking track here, user. As I said in one of the earlier threads, I speculate that SWIFT was aware of the need for these standards and made arrangements to spin off chainlink (actually the company smart contract LLC) to create a system that would work with the upcoming standard. Not sure, all speculation at this point but that’s how it looks to me.
Josiah Williams
What does any of this have to do with link?
Joshua Barnes
nothing
Gabriel Rodriguez
>i.warosu.org/biz/thread/S11528030#p11528666 I say this will all due respect, which in your case is none. Seriously go fuck yourself you stupid fuckhead. You didn’t build link you didn’t build smart contracts and you are a fucking cunt to think you can keep it to yourself. You have no right to try to keep it to yourself and go fuck yourself with your fucking fud.
BTW, this is about way more than chainlink, it’s also about smart contracts and how they are going to transform things and make the world better. I said earlier in the thread that this is the kind of thread that makes up for all the fucking bullshit on biz. YOU are the type who is responsible for making biz a shitty place by constantly spewing bullshit. If you don’t like it, fuck off to reddit or some other thread and spew your fucked up shit there. Fuck off and get out of this thread. The adults are talking.
Kevin Nguyen
yea this is very much related to the SWIFT institute report assblaster brought up back in the day. if you haven't read that and are interested in this stuff, that is very relevant and reveals their thinking about PDS2 and these sorts of open projects and the benefits and risks of community development/
Aaron Clark
Yes, as I said in earlier thread, folks in finance world I think are well aware they need to set this up as an independent entity. Contrast shipping world. Maersk has tried to set up a DLT for shipping world but no one else wants to join because they don’t want to be part of something run by their competitor. Seems like finance world, operating through Swift (I guess) realized early on that they needed to take a different path. I think result is chainlink.
Adam James
This was me user. I’m also the one that suggested Phillipa Ryan. You’ve gone far beyond where I was up to with my digging, well done. I work in banking/fintech and I don’t know anything beyond what you have laid out here.
Caleb Anderson
Why don’t these threads get attention I hate it. Just shows how everyone here chases the hype without understanding the underlying standards / protocols needed to make it work in the first place.
>OH MY GOD LOOK AT THIS BREADCRUMB CHAINLINK IS GONNA GO UP SO HIGH FUCK FUCK FUCK MY DREAM IN LIFE IS TO BE AS POOR AS POSSIBLE QUICK BETTER SPREAD THIS RUMOR EVERYWHERE TO PREMATURELY PUMP THE PRICE SO I CAN BUY AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE WITH MY NEXT PAYCHECK
When Link takes off I am seriously considering hiring a blockchain forensics expert and a private investigator and tracking you fags down. Fuck you. You are costing me million with your rumors. Kill yourself.
Jackson Gonzalez
This was a a great fucking call on Phillipa Ryan, user. As I said in earlier thread, I saw her speak at Stanford Codex future of law conference last year and she is definitely one to follow. Since you mentioned that I've been digging into more of ISO 20022 developments too.
Question for you about recent news re: Hong Kong. Looks like Hong Kong has been watching ASX since last march, and probably earlier. To me anyway it was BIG news that Digital Asset announced that they are also build a project for Hong Kong. DA does NOT put out lots of announcements but just last week they announced this.
Not sure how much you can say but any sense of how the news about Hong Kong was received in Australia.
I know I'm getting caught up in all this but I seriously look at the DLT project for ASX and I think it is one of the most important IT projects in the world right now. If smart contracts take off at ASX then I think this is going to be HUGE for driving adoption in all kinds of industries. Seems like everyone in Sydney for SIBOS was very pumped about the ASX project but I'm on the other side of the world so curious to get info from someone who is more up close.
Grayson Lopez
It’s somewhat because most of us here know that Chainlink is a sure thing. We’re past the point of assessing chainlink’s potential as a project, so the need to follow up on breadcrumbs is limited. Most former chainlink researchers are just awaiting singularity now.
Juan Perez
i'll go halfsies with you on the pinkertons
Camden Watson
Hounds of Love is fucking awesome
Kevin Clark
>When Link takes off I am seriously considering hiring a blockchain forensics expert and a private investigator and tracking you fags down. Fuck you. You are costing me million with your rumors. Kill yourself
Assuming you are not just a troll, you are seriously a reprehensible piece of shit. Lot of great things about smart contracts and projects like link, but one thing that takes away from it is the knowledge that absolute scum like you are going to make money from it.
Link threads are one of the few that have actual positivity on this board, and then unfortunately disgusting subhumans like you have to be part of it too. Makes me truly sick.
I have so much Link that when it takes off I will have multimillions at my disposal for my quest of revenge to hunt down those responsible for denying me billions.
With or without your breadcrumps Chainlink will moon. It will take off from network usage alone. Your rumors serve only to agitate and disadvantage your fellow Linkies who believe in the project much more than you do, and are exited about it's potential on a level much higher than yours. While you stopped accumulating because you refuse to buy without absolute confirmation of the latest breadcrumb, other people out there didn't stop buying and wont stop till mainnet. They believe in this project so much that there is no end goal to accumulation. And you breadcrumbs fags are increasingly making yourselves the enemies of those dedicated true believer Linkies. I don't need your fucking breadcrumb to buy Link. How about you shut the fuck up, stop alerting the retards and redditors to whats going on and stop costing me fucking millions in gains. Every cent Link goes up from here is a loss of over 40x in gains percentage.
I don’t think HK changes anyone’s feelings about what the ASX is doing, but the CHESS replacement being DLT-based definitely put blockchain on the map for a lot of people in the industry.
The ASX thing has allowed DLT to be discussed in earnest as opposed to not at all. For example, I’ve been in some discussions about replacing equifax / illion with a DLT-based service. A major issue in credit originations and management is when the credit bureaus either are offline when someone applies for credit or return the wrong file, so imagine a system which uses consesnsus to return the right credit file and is always on line. These discussions have been very very exploratory and basic, but 5% of all consumer credit applications are affected by this so the opportunity is large.
I think the ASX project will be the first of many for DLT in Australian fintech. Also, XRP is dead in this country but that’s a discussion for a different time.
Wyatt Cook
Correct on the last point
T. Big 4 bank fag
Aiden Bell
>asshole retard only finds chainlink thanks to based breadcrumb posters >now doesn‘t want to share Link with anyone and threatens based breadcrumb posters
If everyone had your faggot attitude then you wouldn‘t even know about chainlink you ungrateful piece of living dog shit.
I‘m gonna make sure that we will increase the breadcrumbs and shilling this month by 100% to deny you the cheap Link that you seek.
let him be. we need to find more clues and uncover the truth.
Eli Reed
absolute fucking chad.
Alexander Reyes
>Nobody buying your lies here you retard, you only found out because Jow Forums was talking about it. >You don‘t deserve chainlink. Totally agree with this that this user >11621865
Is a complete piece of fucking dogshit. Fuckface you learned about link from /biz, and now you are talking about hunting down other anons who are trying to share info about this cool project. Not sure what it is about link threads on biz. 99% of anons I feel like are good people trying to share knowledge. Then there are like 1% who are like "hur dur I found out by attending sibos." No you fucking didn't you absolutely piece of dogshit. Why would you even go on biz if this were the case. You are just trying to prevent other people from learning about a project that YOU had nothing to do with. You didn't help develop chainlink. You didn't come up with the idea. You are just a complete greedy fuck. The whole fucking point of this board is to share information your absolute sack of shit. Seriously go fuck yourself. "SIBOS announcements are not breadcrumbs." Seriously you stupid fucking idiot get off this board and go fuck yourself.
Thomas Morales
desu i wouldnt even come to biz in the first place if it werent for LINK and the memes. it has such potential and has a good storyline. it literally will legitimize the industry and turn into from ponzi dapps to actually billion dollar enterprises using it and then you have those assholes who are so poor that they cant afford to even deep dive with us and would rather prevent people from learning about the project and FUD worse than a street shitter named Sundeep
Charles Phillips
A thread about SIBOS and Link going there last year and the Link ICO shill threads are not breadcrumbs shit you fucking moronic imbeciles. Breadcrumbs is you autistic faggots digging around to find possible partnership rumors for the purpose of causing hype pumps.
If someone had been browsing this board and still doesn't know about chainlink at this point, he doesn't deserve it. Everyone else is already bought in and you don't need to keep digging up hype material to cause FOMO in swingtraders causing price pumps you fucking retards.
You are the bad guys here. You are the enemies of accumulating Linkies. You are the cause of pre mainnet fomo and unnecessarily pumped up prices. You inform absolutely no one about Link who deserves to know. You only inform latecomers, bullrun normies still hanging around because they are bagholding and fucking newfags. Fuck you for informing those type of people.
Tyler King
>The ASX thing has allowed DLT to be discussed in earnest as opposed to not at all. yeah, I think this is the thing. This is why I think this project is so huge. In one of the earlier threads someone posted a report about the ASX thing where someone, I think maybe the CFO of ASX was saying "look this is not a big deal, this is just a way for everyone to save money." Headline said something like, "enthusiasm cools at ASX for DLT project" I was like, no you retards, don't you see. THIS is what mainstream adoption looks like. It's when CFO types say "look, I could give a shit about whiz bang technologies, or some grand vision, I just want to save money.' THAT is when this shit goes absolutely parabolic. So, ok, that's about what I thought -- that HK adding this is good, but mostly confirms what people were already thinking. Thanks for your perspective, user. As we talked about in prior thread, I think there are some interesting reasons why Australia is the testing ground for this new stuff. I can't remember the exact phrase you used but I think you said something like the banking network or finance network was "live" due to smart investments in the 70s. I confess I don't have enough background to totally get that, but I thought it was interesting. Means that Australia is DEFINITELY a place to watch and you, user, are on the ground there so your perspective is definitely valuable for your fellow anons and much appreciated.
John Ramirez
>Link who deserves to know. You don't decide who "deserves to know" you absolute sack of dogshit. You had nothing to do with this project. You did nothing to advance it. You are a greedy fuck who comes to a board that is all about sharing knowledge and are attacking others for sharing knowledge. Who the fuck are you to decide that "latecomers" aren't entitled to it. Seriously fuck off.
Ayden Parker
user you make this board what it truly is, a board of frenship.
disgusting fucking shills are everywhere with their heavy ASS BAGS. I guess that's what happens when you buy up an ICO Did you know that BAT ico had only 120 participants. Imagine how fucking big their smiles are as they dump that shit all over coinbase! LOL! BAT raised $30million in 6 seconds. It's now trading at 400million.Lmao pajeets 15x'ed those rich guys money
Oh,and by the way, If you think that the next bull run will pump your alt coins like XRP, TRON, BAT,ZRX, ADA that are sitting in the hundreds of millions or billions in market capitalizations, prepare to be FUBAR'd
There are a ton of blockchains with high potential that are sitting under 10M in market cap because of the recent bitcoin bear run. Those will be the ones who will replace most of the shit you see in the top 200 And with that...I present you pajeets with the one and only Angelina FLOlie
Did you guys see the violent + epic rise of RVN from 30 million to over $150 million market valuation in the last weeks??? I'm here to tell you that FLO is the sister of RVN. FLO is only $5 million marketcap. The rise of RVN was due to Overstock and Tzero using RVN for their platform.Well...they're also using FLO! It's on the down low. Nobody knows. But now you do!
Binance listed RVN because it was fairly launched and had NO ICO and NO premine. Guess what?So was Flo. tZERO bought 5 Million $FLO
Disgusting newfag. All original Linkies from 2017 fudded the shit out of Link to make sure it stayed out of the hands of the unworthy. All true Link oldfags will continue to FUD the shit out of this coin until mainnet as well.
You can shill after Mainnets out and this is already way over a dollar.
David Bell
wrong
t. Original Linkie from 2017
Blake Carter
Go fuck yourself. Seriously, go fuck yourself. You don’t decide who is “unworthy” you stupid fuck. You are an unworthy piece of dog shit who should do the world a favor by offing yourself. I’ve been here longer than you have you fuck. You don’t speak for anyone else fuckhead. This board is about sharing information you utter piece of shit. Seriously go fuck off to pol or whatever fucking shitfhole you come from.
Jack Young
Wow so fucking angry. Are you maybe, perhaps a latecomer to Link yourself, who only got in through breadcrumbs or that assblaster asshole? Did you buy high user and the thought of Link tanking makes you want to kill yourself? It would certainly explain the need to keep manufacturing FOMO with these fucking threads. Either that or you are worthless neet who can't buy more anyways, would explain your free time to dig around all these fucking connections in the first place.
Either a liar or the boards worst Linkie by far. All OG linkies fudded the shit out of the coin, or purposefully shitpost shilled it to make it look like a scam or a meme like bazingacoin or some shit. If you think you are browsing among friends here user, you are wrong. We are your competitors. Get fucked commie.
Jacob Collins
I wanted to so thank you. This is great thread, keep it up. I love you and good luck
Luke Martinez
thanks, nice digits
Jonathan Fisher
thanks, also nice digits
Gabriel White
drunkanon once said."Australians love chainlink. thats all im gonna say"
and I hope you croak before mainnet you unworthy human garbage.
Isaiah Jones
Tonight i will post 7 storys of people losing jobs who know 200 people who lost jobs due to a smartcontract style of process IS020022 compliant protocalls being implimented
>125,000 EOY
Elijah Edwards
He just admitted he didn't know about ISO20022 until faggot OP made his threads. We knew about this since last year for fucks sake.
I am so sick of Nulinkers. I fucking hate nulinkers so much.