I recently got into my first relationship, and everything has been great for around 6 months, however I recently noticed my girlfriend will only really respond positively and be more affectionate and submissive if I am constantly insulting her or just generally being cold and detached. As in, she's most happy and sexually engaged if I am a fucking asshole. Why do they have to be like this? I don't understand it. I just want to be sweet and tell her I love her but it will paradoxically lessen the relationship.
idk why, but what you've observed is accurate where is a fem user when you need one.
Sebastian Clark
Business & Finance
Ayden Hughes
This is regarding my most substantial investment
It is pretty depressing isn't it
Tyler Williams
Well maybe you consider it being an asshole but to her she thinks of it as respect and showing you have a spine, and will not deal with her bullshit and emotional swings. Women know they have this and need a man who is a rock and won’t be impacted by it.
I mean unless you’re being an asshole and saying stuff like grab me a soda from the fridge bitch. In that case, your gf is so insecure that she’s probably a fat whale and you’re disgusting trash.
But since you’re insulting her, sounds like you’re both trash. A high value woman wouldn’t put up with that.
Brody King
because they don't want a beta lap dog who has no life outside of her? Sounds like yours may just be damaged, it's often not that extreme.
William Taylor
Not all of them are like this. You should probably next your gf user.
Jayden Cooper
Leave her, trust me she is a crazy person. Only use her for sex when needed if not u will become dead inside and she will cheat on you the first sign of weakness.
Brandon Reyes
>A high value woman wouldn’t put up with that. Those are the most depraved whores. Precisely because nobody has the balls to treat them the way they want to be treated in non-sexual things.
Aiden Lee
gotta eat that pussy real good if u want to show ur love
Brody Hill
Biologically females are wired to strong chad men. They'll deny it but subconsciously they want the chad's DNA because they need 'aggressive' offspring. To get far in life an user will need to be aggressive, not nigger tier but a man with a plan/a vision in life.
see you already see things in a classic beta view, girls aren't difficult to figure it out
Joseph Foster
What a lovely inage
Justin Smith
Can't I be strong and aggressive and still affectionate? Why is that associated with weakness for them? It's like they enjoy being reminded they are lesser creatures or something. I agree it's biological and related to natural selection I'm just not sure how exactly.
Lincoln Flores
I have been with a woman who acted how op describes his gf. She went crazy when I left her and tried everything in her power to hurt me. Get out while you can user.
Lucas Evans
Yes, being agresive against others in from of her, like apes do.
After all females are no more than subhuman and will respond to nature force, dont say you love her but show her no more than one in a while and be agressive in bed like forcefulm
Connor Lee
>whargarble write that post again
Owen Morales
Yes there's a time and place for that. Women are creatures wired to emotion and they are like cats. >Scenario 1: You try giving them affection when they don't come to you or not in the "mood". They'll get angry or lose attraction over you. In many cases in middle of the relationships, they will friendzone you because you give them what they want too easily. >Scenario 2: While you are busy focusing on yourself and or working on your vision in life, she comes to you and wants you to give her affection. You tease her first, like saying "maybe" but then give her what she wants. Your sex appeal and attraction is boosted, and the relationship isn't stale because you went Chad and challenged her needs.
TLDR: When you past the honeymoon stage in a relationship, shift the focus on to yourself and your job and only focus on her when she comes to you. It doesn't make sense but that's how women are, they are ruled by emotion and we are ruled by logic.
Women want someone to protect and dominate them. Every other beta man in her life gives her the compliments she needs.
Christian Morgan
Because of the primitive brain.
Evolutionary speaking 2 cents: the ones that had to respect the rules were the eunucs or the 2 role male, to be "humble", "educated" and "polite" is seen by the primitive brain as sign of weakness and not power, thats why we tend to see agressive ones as "alphas" and receptive ones as "betas". Like Trump and his agressivity against the media and some groups, even by his enemies this was seen as "guts/balls", whether his opponents that tried to aid that groups was seen as weaker.
When you are being agressive you are showing her that you have the primitive power to "force" her to do something (ie physical damage), her primitive brain see as if you could use it against other males and that means you could protect your offspring.
Jordan Myers
(cont) Also if you think about it, that is why you see in the news a lot of Millennial female school teachers were caught cheating on their husbands, banging their young (Trump like) Gen Z male students because unlike their Millennial husbands who I guarantee are "Yes" Men, the Gen Z males are probably not only were actively hitting on their teachers but were first disobedient and challenged their female teacher's authority which created that initial attraction.
Camden Campbell
What if I dominate her with love? Hmmmmmmmm?
Joshua Phillips
Oscar Wilde wrote that "I am afraid that women appreciate cruelty, downright cruelty, more than anything else. They have wonderfully primitive instincts. We have emancipated them, but they remain slaves looking for their masters all the time."
Exactly, games become tiresome when played for too long.
Juan Sanders
welcome to a relationship user, it's a contest for the rest of your life and one of you will always win.
Luke Gomez
I mean I can understand that in the flirting stage but how about when you're in a real relationship/married? Does that bullshit still apply? I'd honestly rather get a robot gf or stick with anime if thats the case.
Jace Butler
Take that one with you: >she will never love you as much as you lover her
Dylan Turner
>ITT anons learn how big of a meme women are The ones >30 are all fucked in the head from social media and are all juggling 5-10 orbiters if she is above a 3/10. What’s the fucking point?
Dominic White
The only thing a woman will love is her children
Isaiah Edwards
treat em mean
Noah Mitchell
Yeah, you have to keep her attracted to you....all the while craving sex from anyone but her.
Jace Williams
That's right don't overdue assholery btw. Not all woman but most of them doesn't even know where they want to have dinner. They simply can't make decisions by themselves. It's a thin but bright light between being an asshole and being an assertive man, they really look for dominance most of the time. If you can't be dominant, fake it till you make it.
Robert Hughes
Your mother the only woman cabable of showing genuine love to you.
Asher Lopez
This really.
Grayson Hughes
> doesn't even know where they want to have dinner > can't make decisions by themselves oh and that's making me angry and why I was happier before having a gf I had a lot of time and no one was constantly asking me this and that.
I have stuff to do, things to run, getting shit done. I am so close losing my shit over her asking me some shit every 5 minutes. That creature as an adult and should work as such and not fucking waste my time with useless shit.
A) wasting my time and can't concentrate/work on something for more than 5 minutes by aswering her shit or B) I am an rude asshole and everything is my fault
Nathaniel Collins
OP, get a different girl. Many are damaged. She and/or you might confuse asshole behaviour with dominance and independence, something girls respond positively to and are drawn to. My girl loves me and showers me in affection because I give her affection too, fuck her like a whore and treat her like the adult she is. If your girl doesn't respond positively to these things get a new one
after seeing some other mother-in-laws, I think I have some real luck on the other hand there is the saying that the mother of a daugther / or in general the mother of the wife, is a dragon.
Gavin Jones
Does anybody know what skit this gif was originally from? Was it on World Peace?
Nathan Young
It's because she actually likes you and perceives your detachment as an indicator that you may leave. So she tries to make you stay.
If you push it too far, she will just give up and leave herself.
Juan Phillips
Lol high value women LOVE being treated like borderline shit. If they think you need them you are fucked.
What a faggot you are
Grayson Cooper
Because as soon as a woman's interest level drops below 50% there's no coming back for her. Games are the only things that make relationships interesting.
Jayden Murphy
Of course it still applies! Jesus Christ. Use logic.
When your young..... you date different people because you get bored with people you are dating after a while. What do you think happens when you get married? People don't get bored fucking the same person? They do... which is why it is essential to play games in marriage.
I fucked a married woman last week. I call her a whore when I'm fucking her with my 4 inch cock that barely fits through her fat thighs to enter her pussy. But I have her wrapped around my finger. I snap her and I'm like "when are you sucking my dick next?"
And she loves it
Bentley Foster
>id: CIA JEEZ
based
Kayden Walker
Because you're a pussy and I'm gonna cuck you first chance I get little faggot
Austin Williams
be a beta cuck and treat her nicely and buy her gifts, I'll be staying up late to answer her calls and ram my 14" in her while she tells you she's hanging out with her "girlfriends"
Christopher Anderson
Yes, that factor is annoying, but it is also the main factor that keeps girls attracted to you
Josiah Mitchell
Did you ask her what her relationship was like with her father?
Women have a hard compartmentalize mental or emotional problems in separate facets of their life. I.E. a woman has problems unrelated to work for example, its tends to follow, where men have better emotional control and have an easier time dealing with emotions when its appropriate. My point is being dominant and aggressive towards a women because its allows them to relinquish responsibility in a sense. Its why many women are submissive in the bedroom. They enjoy not thinking, and it provides relief. There was a study done I read about 3 years on this topic about the dynamic. I'll see if I can find it. I believe it describes some of the reason.
John Stewart
Happened to me can confirm If it wasn't for crazy sex I would have goten out sooner I'm glad I decided to leave her there are so many better women out there
They fucking crave that shit...fuck even girls who have been sexually assaulted often like it. If they already trust you as a mate of course, you can't just beat a random ho, and if you can she is probably totally fucked. Most long term relationships I've had, we communicate our desires and suprise surprise many of them want to be deep throated, smacked around, tied up etc. I mean rough/rape porn is the most consumed among women for a reason.
Jonathan Stewart
Can comfirm...its fine balance. I pushed a decent girl away after 3 years. I had total control and sex on demand. She would usually initiate. I was on top of my game so to speak, but eventually she said she couldn't breathe so to speak from anxiety, and was afraid because she never knew how I was feeling or thinking. I was kind of a sociopath. I have a better understanding now, I went to far Alpha to the point of destroying the relationship. The problem is I feel stuck in this mindset sort of. So many other problems in my life started getting better when I finally swallowed red pills. Personal responsibility, exercise, discipline, using the power of NO, and generally focusing on self improvment.
Sebastian Green
Alternate between treating her like shit and giving her a token amount of power over you every so often and you have a relationship for life. Be warned that if you let yourself go, start giving her too much control or become less desirable to other women in general, she will no longer respond in a positive way to this behavior, as you no longer walk the talk. It's mentally tiring to keep this up over a long period if it's not in your nature.
Luis Lewis
I think you can be nice to women the same way you would be courteous to another man. If they see it as beta behavior then it's on them. There's still some good women out there OP but first you gotta improve your well being. The Law of Attraction.
Luis Williams
Don't be a fucking idiot, you faggot. If you know and are so sure they like to be treated like shit then treat them like shit and get that sweet pussy. It couldn't be more simple , you autistic fuck.
OP, do you think you're actually going to attract women if you're being feminine?
Nathaniel Powell
only good post in this thread
Ethan Sullivan
Affection is fundamentally dishonest, life is difficult and people will always respect you more if you're direct and rough around the edges, not just women. Also humans fundamentally crave authenticity, if you just shower someone with hugs and kisses and compliments, there's no real narrative, it loses significance because it's just your nature to hand out affection.
Most women crave flow and dynamic, the idea of distance followed by closeness followed by distance etc. fighting fucking making up, repeat. A normal person seeks this in healthy amounts, abused people seek this in excess.
In general try being more direct as a whole and it will do wonders for how much people respect you.
Here's an example, lets say you have a roommate who leaves the fridge open, many people, without consciously realising it, will use some slightly passive aggressive statement like saying 'I wish you wouldn't leave the fridge open', or 'could you please TRY to close the fridge door', etc. Now try just saying 'close the fridge door after you open it', if you want something, just demand it, don't insinuate at it. People think by being indirect they're more polite, but it's really just passive aggressive corporate mentality and its disingenuous and leads to lots of pent up frustration.
tl;dr women want direct, genuine, strong men, society has taught you to be indirect, disingenuous and weak.
Am I a schizophrenic or something? Everytime I read this image I can hear the song Erika playing perfectly in my head after reading that line.
Kevin Ward
Interesting. How female and male brain differentiates in matters of "executive brain" and "reptilian brain" ?
Andrew Barnes
hahah what the fuck is wrong with you people
Dylan Foster
>As in, she's most happy and sexually engaged if I am a fucking asshole.
It really depresses me to think how much sex is a tool or an instrument to women - that is, she'll have more enthusiastic sex with you if she thinks you're going to leave her, not because she loves you or because she loves sex.
Granted, you get more sex out of this dynamic - but any actual connection is nonexistent, illusory.
People recreate and facilitate childhood trauma in their adulthood to try and overcome it but never succeed and become trapped in their own victim-hood
Asher White
OP I know exactly what you mean. I crushed on a girl who I knew didn't like me, so I just started being a prick towards her since she still was around due to having mutual friends. In the end I got her lol, she said I became an aggressive asshole and she had to have me then.
I still don't get it, like you said I wanna be nice and good to her but the cunt turns into a total bitch once I start showing any affection what-so-ever. So now I just talk down to her and insult her in a joking manner but keep my foot down firm.
I would be lying if I said I'm enjoying this.
Justin Johnson
you are all a bunch of fucking idiots
the first girl I ever had sex with, a literal 8/10 who I was crushing on for months, only started paying attention to me when I started trying to be her friend and made her laugh
my current girlfriend loves me when im affectionate
stop dating damaged whores and you wont have this problem
I really hope the sexbot craze advances as it will challenge the ego of your typical Western thot. The only power a woman has over a man is her vagina. Take the power by procreation via creating sexbots and I will laugh really hard to see western women pull a 180 and instead compete w/ one another not based on pure physical sex appeal but by who can be the most eligible housewife.
I'm hoping some sexbot producing companies releases an IPO.
>>Scenario 2: While you are busy focusing on yourself and or working on your vision in life, she comes to you and wants you to give her affection. >You tease her first, like saying "maybe" but then give her what she wants. Your sex appeal and attraction is boosted, and the relationship isn't stale because you went Chad and challenged her needs. >TLDR: When you past the honeymoon stage in a relationship, shift the focus on to yourself and your job and only focus on her when she comes to you. It doesn't make sense but that's how women are, they are ruled by emotion and we are ruled by logic. Sorry, it's worse than that. The end and rebirth of civilization from pic related does not happen in the 4 years of a presidency, or even in one generation (Z in your case). It's not over. This is just the beginning. Western society will crumble and our land will be divided by chaos and death into new fringe countries that splinter from the sinking ship, before those new civilizations begin the long, long process of rebuilding a culture.
because being nice is a way of placating people who are more capable of violence than you. it makes you signal that you are weak or otherwise not willing to engage in violence to protect yourself and your mate
Jayden Harris
It doesn't have to be this way.
We are enterting an age of miracles. An age of high tech. We can solve it and have abundance. But only we will get off our asses. Only if you and I work to make tech miracles happen. Make happen the greatest of impossible miracles: A solution to the woman problem.
You can be an asshole or nice-ish as long as it is congruent and you aren't needy. The reason why girls love assholes is because they're hard to get and they're not needy betas who will ask for feefees and mommy milkies every 10 minutes. A hot or even regular looking girl is showered with attention and nice words/compliments but guys who are nice to her have a hidden agenda (to fuck her) so they come off as needy/creepy/beta. On the other hand a lot of guys will try being a dick to her just to fuck her, because they hear that's what girls like, but this doesn't work either because it's incongruent and needy as they're only doing it for her validation/vag.
how does that apply if you're already in a relationship tho. op said he has just noticed that being a detached asshole makes her happier after 6 months
Aaron Richardson
I'm so horny and lonely. I wish I were a Chad.
Landon James
ok this is epic
Blake Wilson
It really is crazy ironic, how individual women desire those selfish offspring that will get ahead in society, yet humanity could never have formed thriving societies without selflessness.
Aaron James
Go to the gym Then go talk to women Both problems solved.
Adam Richardson
>not because she loves you or because she loves sex. Most men are shit at sex or have small dicks. Make her happy there, and she'll want sex for itself.
Eli Torres
Your girlfriend is a degenerate who falls for peacocking.
A real woman wants you to be responsible and breed good genetics. She doesn't care how cheesy you are.
John Watson
Yo man you are getting it wrong. Its not about treating them shit its about being a father figure. I know its weird to say, but women crave for strong leadership, support and taking the reigns. Of course there are variances of women (feminazis etc.) but the usual woman likes to be taken care of.
There is no such thing as like a love from both sides. Relationships are a team, but every team needs a leader. Man i used to be the one thinking that the right girl is the one where both sides meet at halfway but it isnt like that. Women crave for that strong leadership of being shown how and what to do. Its a weird syndrome. Its the oedipus complex. Men crave for women that are like their mother (caring, understanding etc.) and women crave for men that are like their father (protective, supportive, strong). If you act like a strong leader the woman will follow you and start acting like a mother. Dont get me wrong here, its a fucking hassle. It means being a little bit of a bitch but with a leash. When your girlfriends shift ends, pick her up, bring her home. If she goes to meet with her friends, help her. Buy her drinks. DUE NOTE TO NOT TAKE THIS TOO FAR. You need to understand whenever they are bullshitting or not. If there is bullshitting, dump her. Instantly. You dont have to pay for all of their shit, but buy mundane shit like food and drinks. Split the rent and loans if you can. Also try to be fit and a chad mentality. The chad mentality isnt like fucking around with other girls. Try to be wanted. Dont fuck other women but seem that you could. That makes your woman crazy. Look nice, smell good, be confident. Women crave that shit. They are biologically built to crave things that are strong and confident. Its because they view you as the father of their children. You are searching for a woman that could take care of your offspring. Start learning how to make your fucking bed. If your woman is lazy and dirty then yell at her.
Ian Howard
>This is regarding my most substantial investment
Just make sure she doesn't see this thread or it's pink wojacks for ya. Or maybe even better yet, show her this thread and then tell her to fuck off.
Find a girl who likes you for the soft cunt you are, bucko
Women think about more things than men at any given time. They have to asses their immediate surroundings for threats for example due to being frail. Men don't really have to do that the vast majority of times. This gives them the freedom to think in a detached manner.
Colton Ortiz
Yeah but if their father is a dbag they like dbags
Oliver Moore
No truer words The most common female emotion is fear
Jordan Sanchez
Crackhoes blow johns for crack, idiot, Amy Winehouse blew a microphone for her crack. She was legit and died doing what she loved (crack), you're just a random faggot on the internet. The fuck do you know about anything?
