The majority of you have no idea what is happening with Bitcoin (BCH), so let me tell you...

>OP is right, Craig wants to destroy the whole crypto space. He first attacks BCH, after that Monero an Zcash etc, then Ethereum and many many more are on his list until there is nothing more left Except Bitcoin.
If he can single handily destroy them they're worthless to begin with.

After Calvin & Craig secure Bitcoin (BCH) they're going after all the segwit shit forks

>attacks bch by stopping changes to it that aren't in the whitepaper
I'm so tired of explaining this shit. Can't stand all the fucking lies though

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I think I might see what they're up to now and why Calvin said something about whoever can withstand pain the longest will win. Jihan and associates have one obvious weakness, massive exposure to BCH prices and crypto prices in general. Any large crash and the bitmain IPO will implode and they're finished. Craig and Calvin presumably are not dependent on crypto prices in the short term. They may not even plan to win a hash war to begin with, what if they want ABC to go ahead with the hash war so that the BCH network fails temporarily. BCH prices will crash and drag the entire crypto market with them. By crashing crypto with no survivors their adversaries bitmain will be bankrupt and lose by default. Presumably BCH prices will remain very low for a while and they can buy those 1m BCH off bitmain liquidators for a low price.

If their plan is anything like that Jihan buying BCH to pump the price to win the hash war is him walking right into a trap. By expending precious capital pumping BCH he's further increasing the pain of any market crash. It's not like he can afford to lose another few hundred million on BCH as it is.

why dump, though? wouldn't the value of bch+fork likely surpass the value of bch? i think most people want the free coins, no?

There are no free coins! bch will run under ABC or bsv protocol !

Is it a good idea to short bch on nov 15th?

It's probably going to be so volatile it will be near impossible to trade. Might be worth putting some troll bids in at very low prices on mex or somewhere incase there's crazy wicks.

CSW is just pushing Bitcoin into level two. We've been long overdue for a true test of Nakamoto Consensus, however, even if there is some sort of catastrophic failure... It will still survive, same chain and all. Craig has illustrated this; there will always be inefficencies (think arbitrages) and there will always be people using bitcoin to quickly transfer value.

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Great that all these harebrained ideas about how bitcoin works will actually be put to the test!

A chain split is guaranteed -- the clients are programmed in a way that staying on one chain is impossible, and they will ignore each other forever.

correct. A hash war is truly needed to test the whitepaper's assumtions for the first time. We have been way too kind on this project for all these years, we need it battle tested, or it will never be able to survive true hostile actors.

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HASHISH WARS!!!!!!!!!!

ABC shills are already talking about changing the POW algorithm and stealing the ticker if CSW wins the hash war

bye bye alts. The writing's on the wall

sharkpool.cash/

he can always try to claim that some other shitcoin is the reel beetcone and hire shills to lie about some supposed flippening.

They are going to pull a S2X on you retards, cap this

Blablabla muh hashwar
Can't wait for the csw cucks to fuck off

It would be retarded to have souch a war because there would be nothing left, It would have a huge possibility of a mutual destruction scenario.
It's much easier for them to fake it to pump bcash and slowly ofload their bags on you on the way up, than right before they call of the split open a shitload of shorts and make more money on the way down

Is there an equivalent to a nuke option in crypto? A Mutually Assured Destruction type situation?

As I posted earlier, bitmain / ABC faction may be at a disadvantage, due to the failed flippening, losses on failed production attempts and the upcoming IPO bitmain is very vulnerable. If BCH stops working due to the hashish wars and the price crashes it could ruin bitmain. The CSW and Calvin faction likely don't rely on crypto for income in the short term, crashing the market and having to wait 12 months for it to recover may be acceptable for them if it eliminates bitmain.

you guys dont seem to understand the basics. this is what proof of work is. this isnt socialist koombaya collaborative circle jerk. hashpower rules

Can anyone read chinese?

Apparently this company just got 90000 s9 miners, so about 1.2 EH, which is about 25% of bch hash power. Im not clear on wheather they are siding with the SV or ABC fork

mp.weixin.qq.com/s/zUmJRu42you99d9lIOG2EQ

>Bitcoin (BCH)

Imposter, stop luring Noobs in your Copycoin.
There is only one Bitcoin and it is Bitcoin (BTC) from Satoshi Nakamoto.

BTC
BTC
BTC
BTC
BTC

The fact retarded corecucks have not absolutely capitulated by now despite it being a year in which lightning was conclusively proven to be a failure even whilst being centralised, and while the majority of btc activity was focused around a fucking etf managed by the state "backed" by bitcoin, and last of all while blockstream rubbed your retarded fucking noses in it by the coup de grace of liquid, and you stupid fucking cunts still don't fucking get it.

You are fucking retarded beyond all measure. You are ignorant obsolete farm equipment that is operating on luck alone. You picked the wrong side of the fucking chain and refuse to accept your error and the incumbent forces of states and central banks and other assorted unproductive psychopathic motherfuckers are the only things propping you up. You will fail, you deserve to fail, and most importantly for the slump to correct you fucking must fail. So just capitulate now and get it the fuck over with. I don't give a shit if you buy the real bitcoin fork, just stop propping up the fucking zombie shitcoin masquerading as Bitcoin that even the most retarded fucking downs syndrome extra chromosome having motherfucker on the planet could identify as a scam by this stage.
Fucking wake up you absolute sad fucks.

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lol get rekt corecuck

>you guys dont seem to understand the basics. this is what proof of work is. this isnt socialist koombaya collaborative circle jerk. hashpower rules
BCH changed their difficulty adjustment algo because they would lose any hashpower fight against BTC. They aren't following the whitepaper.

For the past few days the BCH shills have been right. I think the goal is to pump BCH back up to $1k and also fuck over BTC as much as possible.

You'll wake up pretty soon in around a week.
All the money will float back into the real thing and Bitcoin will, once again, take off for a new and bigger cycle.

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The original BTC DAA is a vulnerability. the 1mb limit was an admitted temporary limit that was supposed to have been removed over 400,000 blocks ago according to Satoshi himself. Because of the way the DAA works and the massive social media campaign targeted at the stupids, which has been unimaginably successful with the influx of absolute hordes of stupids in context of the stratospheric price rise, there was no other way to ensure that there would actually be a chain other than BTC, because all miners follow profitability.
The BCH DAA works against this effectively by upping its bid for hashpower based on the market price of competitors by lowering the difficulty. It has been successful enough to keep 30k USD+ per hour protection from 51% attacks, so it's pretty safe to say it's successful in general. Which brings us to the next part of the equation, which is that the BTC DAA isn't just a bug that positively protects the old chain, it's also a bug that extremely negatively protects the old chain.
Prepare to kiss your ass goodbye, corecuck.

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BTC difficulty algo is there specifically to prevent this ABC bitcoinSV issue. You can cry about BTC all you want but it won't change the fact BCH doesn't follow the whitepaper when it comes to hashrate determining which chain is valid.

That's just untrue. There's been plenty of points throughout which BTC has been the chain with the least hashrate. In each case, corecucks sperged out and did whatever they could to stop people from noticing.
The simple fact is what happened was an attack, unquestionably. A temporary limit that prevents the progress of mass adoption was transformed into a permanent one, an avalanche of new users who had no idea what the fuck was going on was attracted by stratospheric rising prices, and miners did the economically rational thing that they always do; mine the chain that is the most profitable. They did that when BCH was that chain November 12th 2017 and BTC had only 10% of the hashpower, and they're doing it now that BTC is that chain. All of this is indisputable fact in the historical record, so ask yourself, what do *you* think should have been done to ensure the survival of the real bitcoin in the event of this attack? Look at what actually happened, the attackers had to spend a huge amount of money and time and effort on social media campaigns and associated nonsense, and all they really managed to do was; pay off OG bitcoiners handsomely, pay off miners enormously, and split the original vision into a chain they couldn't attack.
I'd say in that context, the defense against the observed attack was pretty damned effective.
But I don't know why I'm wasting time using complex descriptions of material reality with a complete fucking retard, which you'd really have to be to still be a corecuck at this stage of the game as colorfully points out. I guess I hope that a more thoughtful user who doesn't just parrot bullshit might read and consider the implications of the facts as they stand. Especially how they might relate to the forthcoming hash wars on November 15.
We are certainly living in interesting times.

lmao at you idiots thining some manlet grandpa and IQ95 larper can outhash bitmain's hangars full of miners in mongol steppes.
protip: if they could, they wold've done it already.
This is just flexing their_soy_muscles

lol, a corecuck and a wrestling fan, is your cousin also your uncle by any chance?

Please someone help explaining this

It says they're on ABC's side, basically. it also makes some interesting points about hydro power on the main mining supply chain currently being low due to weather conditions, and that thus they're on 0.05 USD kWh prices, which is quite high relative to the bulk of mining.
All in all basic idea is; "challenge accepted".

thx

>mp.weixin.qq.com/s/zUmJRu42you99d9lIOG2EQ

There are 8 days left in the BCH Power War.

In order to gain rich computing power in this pre-existing hunting, Shenzhen Securities Bank learned that the ant mine pool under Bitland is expediting the deployment of 90,000 S9 mining machines in Xinjiang. At present, some mining machines have been deployed.
The BCH hard fork war has not yet begun, the market is already full of fierce gunfire. This battle is far more intense than we think.
There are 8 days left in the BCH Power War.

In order to gain rich computing power in this pre-existing hunting, Shenzhen Securities Bank learned that the ant mine pool under Bitland is expediting the deployment of 90,000 S9 mining machines in Xinjiang. At present, some mining machines have been deployed.

BTC next difficulty adjustment is estimated for november 15...

'nuff said

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Would be funny if it's all just a pretext for a BCH pump that causes the majority of casual profit following mining as well as the big actors to simply abandon the BTC chain en masse. Picture the corecuck tears.
Come to think of it, the coincidence is a little strange.

Writing all that doesn't change that BCH doesn't follow the whitepaper in regards to PoW and difficulty.

>ITT delusional biztards

BTC hashrate 50 Exahash
BCH hashrate 5 Exahash

Yeah that's 10 fold... BCH is a garbage fire.

>The absolute state of biz

This is the level of idiocy with which we must cope.
Just fucking end it. Put yourself out of your misery.

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> replies to a post that correctly predicts he will be simplistic and idiotic
> complies with exactly that.
wewlad

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I loved that answer from jim

youtu.be/oAAML7hy3gA?t=3171

imagine

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He is going to do nothing.

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I don't know why he is even bringing up BTC, too many BCH proponents are deranged and unable to discuss anything regarding BCH without whining about BTC.

> why do they keep picking on BTC? Just because it pretends it's bitcoin..
Is it actually possible for you to write something without looking intensely idiotic? Just shut the fuck up donnie, you're out of your element.

BTC is still on the same original chain since satoshi last forked it. You can argue the choice to not HF to remove the 1mb limit was a bad idea but BCH is a separate fork incompatible with BTC clients and network. The "BCH is bitcoin not a fork" argument is factually incorrect. There's nothing wrong with it being a fork or not following the whitepaper 100% when it comes to PoW, I don't know why BCH people insist on lying about those things, it makes them look very crazy.

Says the guy who looks crazy as fuck. You're wrong newbie and you have no idea what you're talking about.

Good to see there are still non-retarded posters on Jow Forums
>Posting the same pasta drivel in every BCH thread.
When this is the ideological opposition you know CSW is doing something right.
TRIGGERED
>Everyone I don't agree with is crazy.
BCH is the real bitcoin. Get over it, scrub.

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have fun with your beecash when the miners decide to print new coins because they give 0 fucks about long term sustainability, they just want short term profit

I would rather hold my money in a currency with limited supply than in some inflationary piece of shit

The absolute fucking delusion. You kvetch about long term sustainability on a chain that is supposed to move 99% of the fees to the lightning layer that doesn't even fucking work, and is centralised, and also adds another obvious channel for manipulation of supply, and as if that weren't fucking enough you have the same old system of bakkt with an asset that isn't physically exchanged but merely paper dollar volume flow, and as if *that* weren't enough you then have fucking liquid, where blocks are literally mined by fucking trusted exchanges.

Christ you corecucks are so fucking stupid, I don't understand how you can remain this stupid for this long? Are you really all just shills at this stage? What the fuck.

>Says the guy who looks crazy as fuck. You're wrong newbie and you have no idea what you're talking about.
Really then, do explain how BCH is not a fork and is infact the original BTC chain.

>We've been long overdue for a true test of Nakamoto Consensus
ten years in the making, we find out this month if Nakamoto consensus works or not. I for one am excited

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Short ABC
Long SV

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get fucked brainlet

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2nd layer solutions don't matter right now because miners make money on new coins, they don't give a fuck about fees, once bitcoin gains global adoption as a store of value miners will make income from fees on large transaction and fucking coffee will be boght through LN or whatever it's gonna poopular at that time.

People are in desperate need for a non-inflationary currency in todays world, not for a different fucing payment method.

shit like bakkt, futures, etfs, derivatives could impact any coin, you think if beecash was getting too popular the institutions wouldn't try to cuck it through all kinds of derivatives?

Seriosuly tell me how confident are you that miners wouldn't decide to print new coins if you give them all the power to decide? because I'm not sure if beecashers think it's not gonna happen or simply don't give a fuck, serious question

>miners decide to print new coins
Do you even know how PoW works?

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guys you're freaking me out. what should i do with my btc?

> People are in desperate need for a non-inflationary currency in todays world, not for a different fucing payment method.
They are not mutually exclusive, they are not even unrelated. The one is fucking necessary for the other, otherwise you have a sabotaged shitcoin totally penned by the powers that be and unable to actually have an impact on the economy. You are a fucking retard.
> you think if beecash was getting too popular the institutions wouldn't try to cuck it through all kinds of derivatives?
Right, it comes down to this, what you don't fucking realise is that THIS ALREADY HAPPENED TO YOUR SHITCOIN. You are controlled now, you are hijacked, you are sabotaged. You say "yours will get got too! You will be no different! You cannot escape slavery goy!" and I say, fuck you, bring it on, I escaped the transparent attempt on your shitty chain.
> Seriosuly tell me how confident are you that miners wouldn't decide to print new coins if you give them all the power to decide?
They have no more fucking power to decide in BCH than they do in BTC or any other chain. If they inflate the supply users will dump into assets not so afflicted, like they dumped out of every chain that made fucking retarded decisions. The market is immature now and doesn't yet properly understand left from right, but it's learning, and even in this immature state, even the lowest of the low, the most brainlet retard that exists, read, fucks like you, realise that if they inflate the supply, you fucking dump the coin.
You are a stupid cunt and should go back to your fucking mcjob and stop wasting the time of intelligent people who have to refute your absolute nonsense.

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I think Satoshi will win the hash war long term. Short term the ABC chain will probably have more hash power but miners will leave while the SV chain just gets more and more hashpower (not necessary more miners though).

If Bitmain do add some hashpower it will probably just be temporary since they aren't really a miner but a hardware producer.

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if you have the nuts, all in BCH and hold on a paper wallet until the dust settles. you probably don't have the nuts or you would have done it long ago

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but its nonutnovember

>They have no more fucking power to decide in BCH than they do in BTC or any other chain.
stopped reading right there, have fun with your soon to be inflationary shitcoin aka fiat 2.0
>fiat on the blockchain
Faggot craig's vision LMAO

>stopped reading right there
Thanks for proving conclusively you have not the faintest motherfucking clue what you're talking about. Back to kneepads in the back alley you stupid fuck.

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have fun when one day you wake up and find out beecash has no supply cap LMAO what a lose, but hey! at least you will be able to buy a s.o.y coffee at starcucks L M A O
>muh transactions
>muh speed
SUCK A FAT ONE YOU IDIOT
everyone who thinks that some retarde transactions are more important today than immutability is a fucking brainlet NPC
>muh payments
go fuck yourself you cuck\
I'll transact my bitcoin core only a few times in my life, when I finally cash out to buy a shitload of land and rental properties so broke fucks like you can come begging me to rent them a few sq feet

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herp a derp

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you're embarrassing yourself

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See what Chads we are? even fucking starcucks begs us to give them our BITCOIN CORE precious coins but we say
>fuck off kikes
no one is getting my btc
spending=selling and I don't sell diamonds for pennies

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Of course he misses the fact that it's just bakkt, he's fucking retarded. What else would he do?

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give 0 fucks about bakkt, institutions can try and play their games on any coin, it's not like you beecashers have a way to prevent the institutions from creating derivatives of your shitcoin etc, it's just so shit that the kikes don't even see it as a competitor kek

Complete fucking NPCs

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>Mr Wanker can't even plagiarise Hello World

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Of course, i'm all in since a week and will dump on the 13th, hopefully to frontrun you suckers. This pump was so predictable it blows my mind.

Still can't understand how Luke Jr apparently can be so poor. Ignoring the fact that he should have invested in the project he is actually building (he made SegWit on his own) Blockstream could at least throw him a couple of bones.

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JUST BEE YOURSELF WITH YOUR BEE CASH

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> lol I'll just hold my asset that nobody actually uses and ignore the ledger where all the trade happens, what could possibly go wrong with this plan? There's no precedent for a problem with separation of settlement and transaction layers or anything.
Christ, you're like a parody that writes itself. Are you actually on our side and just pretending to be a retarded corecuck to illustrate the stupidity of the position?

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BUZZZZ BUZZZ WTF IS THIS

ITS BEE CASH COMRADE

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>Blockstream could at least throw him a couple of bones.
I honestly think they spend the majority of their axa money on shills.

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>nobody uses
people use it all the time but they are brainlets, using=spending=selling=high velocity=worthless
I use (trade) shitcoins, I hold btc, I win at life

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OK, That does it, this guy has pushed me over the edge. I'm selling all my BTC. It's worthless and everyone left here is completely moronic. Fuck.

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thanks for your service, better get rid of weak hands now than when it goes on a bullrun but hey! I heard xlm is giving away some free shitcoins as an airdrop, take you spot in line with the niggers from nigeria maybe there will be some left for you too
Bitcoin is a fucking religion and I'm the pope

It's a cult, and you're a fanatic.

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Don't suspect Tone Vays doesn't get much either, I remember a video during the pump last year around this time when he said he didn't have so many BTC so he "couldn't even get excited about the price increase".

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>Don't suspect Tone Vays doesn't
derp