seems like a no brainer
you register an eth address and when you prove you are a resident and are able to vote they send you election tokens
candidates will have a voting address
on election day you send your token to the address of the candidate of choice
no need for counting cause you can see the amount of tokens in each candidates address
no voter fraud because you can't counterfeit a token
what am I missing here
Why can't elections be done on ethereum?
Isaac Harris
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Ayden Lee
It can’t be rigged that’s the problem. Also you can see live standings that might be a problem.
Joseph Wood
Can't rig a blockchains election, also all the illegals and dead people would be visible on it.
Jaxon Miller
lmao because how would they "fix" who becomes president? they have no control over who wins if that happens. are you retarded?
Daniel Butler
both sides want to rig it and think they can, so neither will make the push. this is true until one side is arguing for it
Jaxon Martinez
>elections done on ethereum
>seems like a no brainer
I agree, it sounds exactly like something someone with no brain would suggest.
Jaxson Scott
oh and btw
>he wants to hold the election on a platform literally developed by a russian hacker
this isn't going to go over well on CNN
Nicholas Harris
so the argument is elections can't be rigged which is the fucking point
Christian Morris
There are enormous problems that need to be solved before a blockchain-based voting system can be reliably deployed -- problems so enormous that if you could solve them you wouldn't need blockchain-based voting systems.
Cameron Bell
Too slow probably
Jonathan White
like what?
>go to government office somewhere
>set up your identity and link it to an ethereum address
>govt. sends you one "voting" token every time something needs to be voted on
>you send your token to a smart contract which tallies the results
your now ready to go.
Gabriel Morris
This is exactly what should be done. Only constraint right now is speed and technologically illiterate NPCs
Isaiah Russell
Ethereum's DAO had millions of dollars of incentives to operate correctly, and yet that wasn't enough. When a contractually legal exploit was discovered, the foundation demonstrated how un-decentralized Ethereum was and forked the network.
This is one fundamental problem, before even considering smaller things like
Noah Wright
You must be a fucking normie if you think election fraud hasn't been a fundamental part of elections for the whole time we have been doing them. For over 2000 years we knew that you import people that will support your rule even if it destabilizes the country. They use to shave people heads so they would appear like another person so they could vote twice in Jew York.
An even better question for you is why we don't use the blockshain to do bond auctions and completely remove the banks from in between the Fed and Treasury? The banks get free money from their position and dominance but with blockchain the auction could be streamlined to take much of the profit out of the arbitrage and the coupon payments and everything else would be damn near effortless.
Ayden Turner
>what is voter privacy
Sebastian Gutierrez
Niggers I worked at the electoral commission somewhere in Europe, it is a fucking fraud. Manipulation is omnipresent, but I don't think it's enough of a magnitude to swing results.
Nevertheless, the root of the scam is the "choice", it is always
> GoodGoy Red
> GoodGoy Blue
Utter bullshit.
Connor Perez
>removing any kind of voting privacy
>millions of votes/voters eth accounts hacked on election day
>whole network collapsing as usual with more than 5 users
>live tally while polls are open
>votes get effectively pre-mined by the chink miners
Imagine you are on a board that wants to remove voting privacy so their 200$ shitcoin portfolios might double
Ethan Lewis
How was having a vote which decided that they wanted to fork a demonstration for how centralized it was?
The issue is fraud and the same reason why current electronic voting machines are complete garbage even in 2018. This doesnt solve issues with having valid election rolls, nor does it stop people from selling or being coerced for their votes, in fact it encourages it since putting it on the blockchain for transparency makes it so a person can prove they voted a certain way.
tldr the problems with electoral reform have little to do with technology and everything to do with politics.
Elijah Martinez
This. Why would they want provably fair elections user? New aren't you? They don't even require photo ID, you can literally just drive around voting as many times as you want. Or, ya know, truck in a bunch of third worlders you promised free shit to if they vote for you.
Hunter Price
> GoodGoy Red
> GoodGoy Blue
As if more parties would solve this. Europe countries have 3-5 established parties some times. During campaign times they put up the facade to be independent and unique while they barely differ and after the go into coalition they equalise themselves 1:1
Xavier Peterson
this can only work if there is a facial recognition or other biometric database powered by chainlink oracles that will make sure each person can only have one address and that they are also eligible to vote, otherwise you could just go around and get lots of addresses. keep in mind we can't even discuss having some kind of requirement for identification to vote as it is without being accused of racism. it's a long road
Asher Evans
Never implied more parties would solve it/
As you said. It may be 10 parties, or 20...in the end they always aggregate into 2 coalitions of goythink.
Brody Adams
it is a no brainer, but the number of brainlet answers you get here re: why it can't happen shows the greatest hurdle is pushing for the change
give it at least one full generation, and possibly more
Jack Garcia
>what am I missing here
You're thinking of the wrong project.
You would need an oracle for an application like that.
Thankfully, theres already a project being built to do just that. Called B3PO, built using Chainlink.
Brayden Hughes
>B3PO
heres a demo video for you
youtube.com
Henry Perez
no end-to-end reliability
Xavier Cook
Because it can be 51% attacked, have malicious nodes, and all sorts of shit.
The way elections are done is already decentralized. The individual districts count the votes independently.
Justin Diaz
Why can't you kill yourself on Ethereum?
Zachary Price
This. Way too honest for democrats.
Alexander Sullivan
lmfao
Aiden Gutierrez
Because there is no way to connect real world data to the ethereum chain. :)
Hunter Gonzalez
This post actually gives the nail head and the road is much shorter than you think. You'll see it next year.
Landon Cox
Because it can't even handle a stupid cat game.
Brandon Nguyen
You definitely can't. They need to have your name and address in the system and you are zoned to a specific voting location based on the address they have on you.
Daniel Bell
nope. makes too much sense user, we gotta keep using paper.
Daniel Rogers
People think these FL/GA recounts are a big deal but they forget the actual presidency (Bush vs Gore) was once decided by some dodgy ass recounts from the fine state of Florida. Like you, only last week, I was actually thinking about this concept of using a crypto + blockchain as a voting system, and started drafting an academic paper on the subject.
So, thinking deeply on it, it has a couple unacceptable flaws.
The biggest is what you do with idiots who lose their keys. The result is they literally lose their ability to vote for no substantive reason. This alone is unacceptable in the United States and will force a non-centralized solution e.g. a governing body to keep everyone's keys on hand which defeats the whole purpose of moving to a blockchain in the first place.
What about people their keys stolen? If you think Russian Facebook trolls were a problem, how about retards getting phished and literally handing their vote to the GRU?
Remember that IQ follows a bell curve: over half of whites, 2/3rd of blacks, etc. in the country are
Jeremiah Hill
Hunter Baker
honestly, if they are dumb enough to lose their keys, they are too dumb to vote
maybe we need some sort of culling like this to make actual changes for the better in the United States