"college is a waste of money"

Give me ONE, I repeat ONE piece of evidence justifying this view.

This meme is said to much on Jow Forums and needs to be shown for what it is, dumb shit said by coping dropouts/brainlets who couldn't get in

Attached: fact4.jpg (480x311, 26K)

Other urls found in this thread:

bls.gov/oes/2017/may/oes_nat.htm
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

I make ≈5k a week on btcusd.

Id never went to uni.

t. coping STEMfag posting this thread for the fifth time

The problem with your graph is that it is lumping all the successful tradesmen with shit tier fry cooks and wellfare faggots

T. Coping retards whose spouted this shit with no evidence 500 times

the brain dead monkey knows it is a waste, and need reasons to justify its beliefs that is not
since the blockchain the state is obsolete
since the internet collage is obsolete
after the AI is good enough all shitskins will be obsolete too

we are one click away from the new world order

So far I've came with the conclusion that everyone in here who believes that meme is:
>getting a meme degree or a STEM degree in an over saturated market like CS
>a lazy fuck who wants to get a well paid job in their first month after graduating
>a bitter user trying to cope with his NEET life LARPing as a self taught god tier coder.
>a woman

The best paying trades like plumbing still pay less than the shittiest college jobs like teaching.

bls.gov/oes/2017/may/oes_nat.htm

>waa ive got 150k of student loan debt
>waa I cant find a job

Should have gone to trade school, theyre desperate for skilled labor

>fuk u hillbilly

>moving the goalposts THAT hard
It isn't about job availability, it's about better paid jobs. Basically what said. But go on, clean pipes all of your life with an evidently lesser anual pay.

Way off finding a job, got MSc PhD and deciding if I even want to work by then cause I got 30 btc.

This thread is for people who can actually pay evidence instead of spoutingb the usual misleading crap

the pipe cleaner was never going to become a teacher. why should someone that didn't do well in school waste money on college?

I was a poorfag from a poor family. Dropped out first year college to work in Consctruction.

I worked in the trades for 2 years and it was hell. Good pay but it wrecks your body, long work hours, low prestige, everyone you work with is racist, retarded, fat, lazy, or a combination of all 4. Half the people you work with do coke or drink on the job. Almost everyone has a criminal record. Half the people you work barely speak english. You WILL get seriously injured. You WILL see someone get injured. Come home exhausted, sweaty, and covered in dust and dirt.

Going back to uni next year now that I can afford it somewhat.

>wanting a better paid job
>most competitive fields
>oversaturated field
>lmao wtf, why cant I find a job

No ones moving any goalposts, you started out with an arguement no one makes.
College is good if you choose a good field and have a good shot at competing, only retards would say all college is bad.

Lol the average pay for a school teacher is 50k a year, easily achievable and easy to beat in the trades.

If my dickhead bosses would give me my raise id be nearly 90k gross.

>easily achievable and easy to beat in the trades.
Then why does the average plumber earn more then the average teacher?

*Earn less according to

college is a meme because being average is a meme
enjoy your 2-3 relationships followed with unfulfilling marriage with your wife fantasizing about what could have been had she not settled for you
enjoy your wagecucking until 65 to pay the mortgage and your kids' college
that is... if you were born in the 60s and could have that life. if you think being average is even an option nowadays and that it will all work out just as well as it did for your boomer parents, oh boy

>all trades pay the same

Attached: 1543345355672.jpg (157x117, 3K)

Depends on what you’re going to school for. If it’s just to walk out of uni with a fucking liberal arts degree then, guess what, ya played yourself. Enjoy that useless debt.

Attached: 31075268-0A95-415E-9491-ACFF676165DF.gif (332x250, 1.1M)

All but electrician pay less, and electrician is only a few thousand over

Barely, besides there is way more upside to a trades job than a teaching job and way more jobs available. Not only that but I doubt that tradesmen that are business owners are included in that category. Oh yea and no student debt and oppurtunity loss

After considering everything they've earned more, and teaching is the more "desirable" job excluding earnings cause of no body damage

>there is way more upside to a trades job than a teaching job
Most delusional shit I've heard in a while

Lol no they dont, and there are alot more opportunity in the trades.

Not to mention cost to even enter the market, starting wages, and how quickly you can move up your pay scale.

Post some examples then

College is liberal
Liberal BAD!

Attached: 1541758698790.png (205x246, 9K)

Probably the best one is I dont have to wait 20 years to reach the top of my pay scale like a school teacher would.

Having 3 months off every year and bitching about how I dont get paid enough ia pretty cash though.

You may provide proof for your claim.

No trades I checked but electrician paid more using Where are your examples?

Hehe, pay us some money and you can earn some more money and live in a more expensive area, you’re smarter than most ppl, degrees are hard to get

If you are getting an art degree you are wasting money.
If you are getting a sociology degree you are wasting money.
If you are getting a psychology degree you are wasting money.
If you are getting a history degree you are wasting money.

College is a waste of money for anything but STEM, law and business (+ the orbiting disciplines like accounting for example).

Attached: college-degrees-salary.png (1638x1230, 76K)

I did, all trades dont pay the same, and like I said there is mucb more opportunity, upward mobility and less competition amd more demand in the trades.
If youre willing welders have the opportunity to make a ton of money, as do truck drivers willing to haul hazardous material.

>>trying to open up your very own teaching business
I didn't realize biz was full of butthurt fags with social science degrees

In the nine years experience I've had working as a plumber for a company, I've never made less than $75,000 annually. This has been my first year in business on my own, and I've made about $125,000 after expenses. Plumbing gives the trade worker few options in case he/she gets injured. Most people who burn out on doing plumbing go on to work in dispatch, go to work at a supply house, or find a new career (prime example: Home Inspector).

There are several different specialities to pick if you start up on your own after getting experience.
a) Drain Cleaning
b) Residential Service
c) Commercial Service
d) Replacing all the old galvanized steel water pipes to newer water pipe systems in residential homes
e) Sewer Replacement
f) Remodel

The career is decent, but it does take a physical toll. My state is changing the plumbing licensing within the next year, that will greatly affect how I do business on what services I offer. If the licensing restrictions are watered down, I no longer want to offer installation services for most things. I would rather exclusively offer drain cleaning services or possibly switch careers and go into Home Inspecting for less stress and more time off.

Right... No evidence just memes

Water plant operator
I made 60k last year and will make close to 80k this year. Trades are life

The welder meme is bullshit, I checked it has a high rate of unemployment (8%) which is not surprising since it's typically the job a wetback can do for half the money of an american.

That said you can do good money in trade but you need to be in the 80-90th percentile, in short way more skilled than the crowd, an average office drone will always make more money than an average tradesman, at least for now.

I've posted this again and again. With a handful of exceptions, most degrees will put a person backwards in both time and money.

A man who becomes a plumber could be a millionaire by 40 assuming he becomes self employed by 25.

A man who becomes a medical doctor will probably just finish paying off his student loans by 40 and will be at a 0 balance.

Gosh what a great deal university is.

Thats how averages work retard.

dude all you need nowadays is a portfolio of your work. Instead of going to college for 3 years, why not dedicate time to projects you like or the once you see the most opportunity in. Then make it public and use that as your proof to be capable for the position you will apply for.

With college you are buying yourself a babysitter

By the way you can make shit for pay doing normal degrees sometimes, say architecture you might make 20-40k with a 5 year 140k degree, until you get famous or get a clientele you might stay poor.

You're right but some positions (client facing and well paid) wont hire you without a college education.

It's almost like I'm saying they should have their own line...

My claim is self evident, if youre too much a brainlet to comprehend that its your problem. All trades dont pay the same
I agree that there is that bit of a meme, but thats because of the low bar of entry. Underwater welders and other dangerous and highly skilled subsets of the job btfo the average desk drone.

I sort of lump other shit into trades too, communications and networking people make quite a bit too.

>Graph stops at 2009
>Talking like a difference of $200 a week over 30 fucking years
>$10,400 increase in median salary for a college graduate
>graph has no sources, OP could have literally made this up

This is some shitty bait but of course the brainlets at Biz fell for it again. You're probably the same faggot that posted the undiagnosed mental disorder post too huh?

>tfw Economics Chad
This graph probably doesn't exclude professional/graduate degree holders though. Lots of people with economics degrees go for a PhD or MBA.

There isn't any, it's that simple. The threads are always dropout cope, no exceptions

I didn't want to go to college. Went. Dropped out. Drove pizzas. Did music retail. Went back to school. Got a job overseas. Went to grad school. Lots more jobs. Traveled the world. Good money. Good career. Good friends. Good wife. Comfy desu.

I make $130k/year as a software engineer and do not have a degree. Monthly living expenses are also pretty low since I don't pay rent or have use for a car

liberal arts schools are a meme for sure. I'm a network engineer and went to school for art.

>"college is a waste of money"

The assumption that college is needed for everyone is a complete lie.

How much do you invest?