Biz, I've got a business idea I've currently been working on developing. I want to turn this location into a walk up drive thru service location selling primarily cold coffees. Startup costs are around 60k and monthly projected revenues are around 25-30k (conservatively). The building has the correct zoning and is large enough to fit the equipment I would need to get this operation moving.
I am planning on meeting with the land owners representative tomorrow. From what I was able to learn about him is that he is known to be a shark. I dont know what my goal is for the meeting, and I dont want to give my plan away for free and watch someone else benefit from this. I need advice. Thanks
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people dont want cold coffee, they want ice coffee
That's the plan.
Is this location already a restaurant? If not, there will be a lot of costs you haven't thought of. For example, in some cases, you might be required to have HVAC, hooding, and Ansul systems.
Also, I think your projected gross of 25-30k per month is wildly optimistic.
I'm not trying to pee in your punch bowl, but there's a reason why most restaurants go broke in the first year.
If he's a shark, he will probably put you into a NNN lease, which means you will have to pay to maintain his building and his property.
I purposefully left out the details on the coffee, serving methods, and equipment since that's what I bring to the table given my background in foodservice design build.
Get a food truck and see if you even like the work before going all in.
The equipment you described are all required for establishments with hot food. I'm sure a box AC unit would be sufficient for this space. I managed million dollar commercial kitchen projects for 2 years during college. I appreciate the feed back. I'm looking for feed back about dealing with the rep. Tell me more about that lease?
The idea works. 5 miles away there is a location essentially doing exactly what I want to do, but they have a store front, no drive through and pay probably 4k a month on rent (I know because my family owns property and rents similar space 1 block from them). They have been operational for 3 years.
If you "managed million dollar commercial kitchen projects" for years, then you don't need the advice of Jow Forums.
I however, have close to 30 years of experience in the industry myself, so it's not like I just fell off the turnip truck.
if you know everything why arent you rich yet
Fantastic. What do you know about leasing and property development, working with land owners, etc. I didnt mean to come across as pompous just trying to lay a background.
I mistakenly made the assumption that I would know more than the average biz'r. Got just'd in about 5 minutes.
Part of the advantage of a storefront is that it can cater to the "coffee experience" types, who like to sit around and drink their coffee while solving the worlds' problems and using their laptop.
This location appears to be too small to have a dine-in section. If it's only drive-thru and carry out, you will also have to factor in the drop-off in the winter when people won't want to walk for a cold coffee.
The size of the building looks similar to a brand that's been showing up around here a lot called "hot spot coffee"; where they use half naked counter staff in an attempt to overcome the losses of running a strictly coffee location.
Oh man that's epic. Look up Dutch Bros, similar kind of model, minus the babes.
>Primarily cold coffee
You may want to consider other drink variations. Iced coffee isn’t exactly popular or unique.
See this
This is their official website
Thanks Biz. I think I'm going to start smaller.
>Iced coffee isn’t exactly popular or unique.
You are out of your fucking mind
Also OP if you dont have barista/coffee experience you wont have a fucking clue how to properly source your coffee and do stuff like cold brew
>average biz'r
>monthly projected revenues are around 25-30k (conservatively)
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Do it and post results with a picture of yourself crying once you fail.
this, absolutely no one wants to only get coffee. your customer base is used to also getting fast food or snacks at the same place as they get their coffee. coffee isn’t so rare that they need to make an extra stop at your pajeet shack with no brand recognition. this is quite possibly the shittiest restaurant idea possible. how do I short it?
25k monthly ? conservative quoata ? just iced coffee ?
where in the world is this
> cmon, that's just 33 people who will buy ice cofee in user's shady cuckshed every day
You're starting a brick and mortar business that's competing with hundreds of established brands.
You're mentally deficient.