Salary negotiation thread

This week I will be negotiating a significant raise from the company I've been working at for 3 years. Any tips or tricks for a salary negotiation conversation?

Also general thread for discussing salary negotiation and acquiring raises/promotions.

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You need to walk in with at least some leverage already and be the first one to walk out no matter the decision.

The shady side of companies and even some big corps is that they are trained to do everything to not give you that raise even if you deserve it so you better be hard to replace. So ask yourself, are you expandable or disposable?

Not expendable nor disposable because I hold a significant amount of process knowledge that nobody else has in the company. I've stuck around while an entire team was either fired or quit, and I absorbed their duties.

Currently I'm the only person running the marketing operations and sales automations, and it would cost them a significant sum to hire somebody in my place with a diverse enough experience. Would actually probably need to hire 2-3 to get back up and running.

Still trying to figure out how to tactfully present this during my discussion. What do you mean by "first one to walk out"? I know they will definitely try and negotiate me down from my minimum ask.

>Hire a PI to stalk your boss
>Hire a prostitute to seduce your boss
>Trade the pics for 2x your salary

>You need to walk in with at least some leverage already
Being prepared to resign if you don't get the raise is the best leverage, you need to be able to walk away.
Have an alternate job lined up, ideally. They might beg for you back when things fall to shit.

Make sure who you're negotiating with can actually action your raise. It's a waste of time discussing with a manager when the person who finally decides on the raise works in a completely separate location.

Art of the deal, ask for more than you actually want. They'll negotiate down anyway.

Prepare the meeting 1-6 months ahead of time and make sure they know you want to discuss pay.

Have proof of accomplishments competencies.

Just got myself a 30% raise in a company I have worked at for 3 years. I basically printed out a spreadsheet directly from our company accounts showing the money I have made the company. My advise is to go into it with cold hard number, evidence and facts. Don't approach it from a "I feel like" perspective.

lol, I just spoke to my boss and told him I would like to go from renting a unit to renting a house and gave him a piece of paper with what I am currently making and what I would need and he was cool with it.

Solid advice user, well done.

how much time do you think a company can waste for a replacement? i wonder if there is any ratio, like if youre definitely not replaceable, you can ask for up to an arbitrary amount like 50% in exchange for them not needing to search for say 6 months.

if youre replaceable, something like a 5% increase would be worth two weeks of seraching for them. wish i could describe this thought better

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>Art of the deal, ask for more than you actually want. They'll negotiate down anyway.
and if they don't you get even more money than you want
that's pretty clever

I do it by getting an offer for more pay from another company. I've had 5 jobs the last 7 years, all of which I resigned to move on and make more money. If you like your job but you want more money then you have to approach it that way. Just say, "I need to make more money. This is the percentage increase I want, this is an offer from Burger and Jewstein. You can meet me up or down."

But you gotta be ready to take no and accept that offer from burger and jewstein. Also bosses don't give a fuck how much you contribute or whether you're worth 3 people. Don't use that as a tactic. Use the market." This is how much money 'position' makes on average based on statistics I pulled from glass door, the offer from burger and jewstein reflects this" then you can decide if they need to meet the offer, exceed it, or maybe you'll take less money but more options like stock or Healthcare paid for.

You gotta have the mindset that you don't really give a fuck and either they pay you more or somebody else will.

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Great thread Jow Forums.

this is based + red pilled. the only way to go. sounding like a bitch with your "i'm a valuable asset to the company" ain't gonna get u nowhere.

yeah, such secret knowledge thanks

>pls jews give me more money
pathetic.

Honestly OP you don't negotiate salaries, you just find higher paying jobs. Every 2-4 years I job hop and I've gone from making $70k to $125k. Of course experience and inflation has increased my pay somewhat but I bet the majority of the increases has been me changing jobs 3 times in 7 years.

The best way to make more mkney is to find a new job and leave. Companies have no loyalty towards staff so why should you be loyal to them.

Asia figured this one out decades before the west. People switch jobs yearly because employers are too cheap to retain compitent staff.

ill reinforce the argument here. you have to either leave or put on your poker face and say youre gonna leave. im personally not willing to have to leave if boss refuses counter offer, so im waiting for an actual job offer and probably leverage on potential new employer rather than current employer. i daydream of pretending to quit to get a raise.

I make 2.50 eur/hr. AMA

You should have negotiated when they fired everybody else, retard. If you are doing the job of 2 or 3 people you should have been paid double or more. Not a piddly 10% Or whatever gay shit you are going to beg for.

Fuck I hate people like you.