When you can't even get a job even with a PHD in Physics

Just go get a government job. Tell them you have a PHD in Environmental Physics.

How the fuck is this even possible

great question fren, I have no idea. if I wasn't so depressed I'd make my own online business.

I have a PhD in physics and there are a hundred well payed jobs I could do, especially since I'm in DLT

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>Wants to be a programmer
>So gets a PhD in physics for some reason
>Complains that people find his non relevant experience non relevant
I don't get it.

ya that is cringe af, its the type of shit blacks and wamens attend

4 months isn't long. hell some of my applications took longer than that... but I'm not a programmer.

most IT people I know work at some start up that never made any profit, so I gues there is some kind of bubble when all this start up investments dry up.

if you think about it most start ups are just like those ICO's that got people burned.

youtube.com/watch?v=dYK7XW1Phzs

you just need to become a brown person or a female, then you can get a 200k year job at Google and fuck around all day at a glorified adult daycare. then when you go home, go troll on Jow Forums to make fun of all the white males and just tell them they need to work harder.

>I have no idea
>if I wasn't so depressed
There is your problem.

depression has little to do with me not being able to find a job considering how many applications I've sent out

the NPC's mind gets tricked.
it gets depressed when unemployed
it gets miserable when finally employed that he wasted his prcious free time with no job depressed.

fuck that's accurate. how do I stop this? how is it different being a PC? what's the thought process like?

I'm so sick of the, "you just don't have the experience needed" meme

Working itself is something I have no issue with, it's just that working forces me to interact with people I don't give two shits about...solitude is truly an underrated gift.

fren. how are you applying. do you have good, up to date LinkedIn with a professional headshot. Do you have a personal website that you use as a portfolio to showcase your previous work / projects?

archive.today/2018.05.20-223143/http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2304096/Graduate-physics-PhD-31-fell-death-block-flats-taking-job-centre-qualified-for.html

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you just do what you can and don't give two shits about what is outside of your control. just realize that at some point in the future you will get a job just like btc will have another bullrun. and if neither of those things happen you won't have any regrets because you did what you could. life really is about all the other things.

t. just got employed and am fucking miserable

i feel guilty for laughing at this

fuck man. that's a bigger statement about our society, these people are purposely not being utilized to their full potential for the betterment of humanity. they're being wasted so we can bring in more turd worlders.

indeed, directly, recruiters. I don't use linkedin. I don't have a github/website because I'm not giving out free code.

mush, wagie. mush

Check out teamblind.com/

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You could always apply to work as a memegeneer assistant or cad drafter?

2 years unemployed here too..

Good enuff to get a job, nignog

i did a physics phd and now I just day trade crypto from home

Wasn't there that physics grad student drop-out that raped and murdered an innocent girl?

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PhDs make you faggots think your worth more then you actually are.
Get a job at a gas station for 3 months and you'll have your choice.

First fucking rule about looking for a job is that it's easier to find one when you are employed. Then the company you want to hire you can call where you currently work and ask how you are.

If you don't even work part time anywhere what makes you think where you want to work wants to hire on a faggot that's too lazy and retarted to even work minimum wage.

Get fucked faggots. I made one resume when I was 16 and got my first job. From that point on I never used my resume and successfully scored any place I wanted to work after that.
Now I'm self employed, work my own hours and eat very very well.

>i'm an obnoxious faggot, i'm so great, blah blah blah

Getting a Ph.D in a stem field is suicide when we're living in an age where Trump and his lackeys are waging war on science.

Apparently not given the amount of crying and whining in this thread.

Maybe actually study and understand the field of computer science instead of just learning Meme Framework of the month 2.0 and you'll realize how damn easy it is to get a great job as a software engineer these days.

>. I don't use linkedin. I don't have a github/website because I'm not giving out free code.
Imagine being this retarded. This is why you can't get jobs.

This physics Ph.D was working at a call centre for about a year when he leapt off his apartment building to his death

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I've had LinkedIn since I was in my bachelor's, now in my master's and recruiters are lining up to get me while I don't even have my degree.

Why did you not build up your network while studying? Isn't this the whole point of going to university anyway?

People that don't have LinkedIn use it as a pre-emptive self-defense mechanism so they don't get hurt that nobody still notices them even when they've had LinkedIn for years

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story?

I worked at a call center for a week and contemplated doing the same.

His work place seems to be overrun by women and minorities. Well, I guess at least people will have fun at the office, but it doesn't seem much gets done around there.

At this point it should be obvious that higher intelligence or fancy university degrees won't guarantee you value in the market. I don't understand why people keep insisting with that shit.

This guy got a degree in something that doesn't sell right now, simple put. It's foolish to entitle yourself to expect money from other people if you don't offer something they want.

Instead you should find what do you want to do. Do you want to make big money? Study what's selling right now, and go sell it. Do you want to study physics? get your degree and go where people like you is needed. No jobs for physicists in your area? then move to another area where physicists are needed, that's it. But don't expect immediate jobs or big money just because you're smart. That's not how the game of life works.

bruh. 90% of jobs posted online are on LinkedIn. You're missing on the biggest source for finding jobs online.

>recruiters are lining up to get me
what exactly do you study?

should have got a math PhD
>300k starting salary p.a.

>Instead you should find what do you want to do. Do you want to make big money? Study what's selling right now, and go sell it.
I think most people go on life on "auto-pilot" especially when they're told to pursue their dreams. The government has always taken a laissez-faire approach to education and the job market so there should be some quota on the number of slots a particular program has in order to prevent an over-saturation in the number of degrees being handed out.

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CS, what else :-)

Meeting 50% of the job requirements you are as likely to land the job as someone who is meeting 90%

talent.works/blog/2018/11/27/the-science-of-the-job-search-part-vii-you-only-need-50-of-job-requirements

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Also:

>For women, these numbers are about 10% lower i.e. women’s interview chances go up once they meet 30% of job requirements, and matching 40% of job requirements is as good as matching 90% for women.

has it ever occured to you your unique situation may not apply to others? i see people on biz blasting the likes of me for not being able to find a job, yet when i ask them what they studied its always a very in demand degree. our fault or not, most people learn the worth of their degree only after graduating.

could you also please elaborate what you mean by building your network? how do you equating being buddies with your classmates to receiving calls from recruiters before graduating?

complete bull. if you meet 50, there is always another guy or girl who will meet 51, 55, 60 or higher.

source

Send an email to everyone individually. Title it 'Looking for '
Then just chat with your friend. People like helping others.

>When you realize you're over educated and under skilled

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>Being such a dumbass NPC you need a source to do your thinking for you

Who are you quoting?

goddamn. that's a beautiful source. thanks for the link fren.

linkedin. spam out connections to your friends / people you vaguely know. if you're applying for a job and someone you're connected with works there you can reach out to them for a recommendation / referral.

Basically HR departments are dumb.
Physicists are objectively better than CS people with computers, but the people doing the hiring have no idea.
People like Dennis Ritchie and Rob Pike are just physicists who rose to the top of the CS world.
The typical Physics grad literally knows everything whereas the typical CS grad has no idea how to even use a function and just copies from people that do.
Of course HR doesn't realize that. That's why if you get a meme degree like a master's in data science or financial economics you get instantly hired by a company before even starting classes. HR literally doesn't understand that it is a meme and doesn't teach you anything, or that a stat/econ phd/master is basically the same thing.

If you're shit you're shit. If you cannot program why should I pay money for shit code. Idc if you have phd in physics.

> I’m a depressed retard who has red flags written all over me
> why can’t I get a software engineering job in the easiest, most remote-friendly work environment in the history of mankind
> must be because of diversity quotas and not my awful attitude that I bring wherever I go

remote jobs are harder to get than in person ones and require a previous work history.

if that were even remotely true it wouldnt take most people months to find a job.

some people are really drinking the kool aid on this site. they go apeshit when you mention grads cant find jobs and chalk it down to the fact that its because theyre "lazy" using anecdotes from their youth on how they found their job by applying to 3 different places.

i genuinely wonder if these people are butthurt business owners or something.

>awful attitude

This is peak boomer posting

Fair enough. Though, I see the same with my friends who study math, chem and/or physics that they seem pretty popular.

As for the networking thing, I mean that some significant business relationships have started and still start in uni (Mark Zuckerberg and his minions, Steve Jobs and the Woz, Gates and Allen) Referrals from working together!

The network that I mean is more than just your classmates. There are professors with whom you could do projects, the occasional sponsored talk (this is probably not at every uni) where you can get in contact with the industry/recruiters and more.

There's a lot of people you can meet and talk to and if leveraged in the right way, they could bring you closer to that job you want

Most of them are boomers. Others are millennials wanting the approval of boomers. And the rest are government shills who are trying to keep up the morale and restore faith in the failing system (by lying to people lol)

>if that were even remotely true it wouldnt take most people months to find a job.

Can you even read a simple chart? Just as likely is just a relative term.

>if that were even remotely true it wouldnt take most people months to find a job.

See interview rate.

how are you this fucking retarded?

every inch of the entire education system is dominated by government money

instead of citing charts from obscure websites, ive had the priviledge of talking to actual recruiters who have told me, in person, that the job market is so saturated they would not even consider someone who doesnt meet at least 80% of the requirements, and that even 80% wont make your application competitive. they will also lace the requirements list with "booby traps" that will immediately eliminate your application, like not being proficient in some obscure software. they do this because some job openings receive thousands of applications. thats why people get back to back internships nowdays. are you genuinely autistic or something?

>I think most people go on life on "auto-pilot" especially when they're told to pursue their dreams.
I believe anyone can and perhaps should pursue their dreams, nothing wrong with that. But things go wrong when you keep living in a dream world and blind yourself to reality. And it's really fucking ironic that such smart people can't comprehend such simple concept, I don't understand if it's because of their ego or what. OP's guy is intelligent enough to get a PhD in Physics yet not intelligent enough to understand that his degree is worthless to the majority of people.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure there are plenty of jobs for that kind of profession, but not "anywhere". He could've tried looking for jobs around his whole country or around the globe and I'm a willing to fucking bet that he would've gotten one, and good one, because physicists make good money in actuality.

It's very easy to blame the system, the world and everyone else, before blaming yourself.

ive actually noticed a trend among boomers, especially among the ones i know. they yap about how they quicly found a job in their youth, and the fact that i havent found one means im not trying hard enough. then they proceed to give me archaic boomer tips such as "you have a nice face, why cant you get that job boi", or "youre a good kid sonny, you have a nice handshake, if youre not getting the job its cuz you havent adjusted your tie well, a man shines his shoes" and so on.

> who have told me

If you are fish then you don't ask the fishermen. They will always complain about their bad catch. Astounding that someone like you hasn't learned this life lesson. Why are phone posters so naïve?

The honest truth is that any degree beyond a bachelors will severely tank the total number of jobs you're properly qualified for (because you're overqualified), and will only open much a much smaller number of highly niche jobs, often extremely vulnerable to shifts in the job market or government funding.

The correct strategy is to research fields that are in demand (and to estimate demand so you don't end up having to knifefight your way through a really crowded one) when you first enter highschool, and then when you actually enter university do everything in your power to network and get internships (and good marks) to get into that field. Graduate, get a job, and don't look back. Grad school is for chumps these days.

>Graduate, get a job, and don't look back. Grad school is for chumps these days.
what you said makes a lot of sense, i wish someone told me this shit before. should i just wipe my masters off my resume then? it would create such a big gap tho.

>people with physics degrees are objectively better
Imagine being so retarded to use something as ambiguous and non-measurable like "good with computers" and claim this is objective.

I guarantee you that your average physics grad knows very little about compilers or operating system internals, so clearly they don't know more about technology than CS grads in that domain.

Well, it depends on the job you're applying for. Obviously if you're applying for lower-tier jobs that don't require graduate degrees, it's best not to mention it. Just pretend you took a year off to travel, and then try to make up some kind of minimum wage work to plug the gap or something. Like starting a small business with a friend or something.

Where do you live by the way? It might be that the area where you live, is indeed saturated. (Would you consider moving for the job?)

Also speaking of internships, would you be willing to work unpaid at a startup or some company to get the "relevant" experience.
Like work evenings unpaid, and during the day you just hold a normal/minimum-wage but irrelevant job that at least keeps you alive and a house over your roof.

yes. just say you were backpacking or freelancing in an unrelated field or something.

In the end though it's just a huge fucking waste of human potential because we simply don't have enough jobs requiring people who can think.

looks like that guy is floating. is that the point of the image

t. CS Grad

None of this matters. The fact that every faggot in 2018 wants become a programmer is a huge problem.

Should've majored in math with strong statistical analysis coursework. That's the most reliable way to get a 300k+ job from a college education.

>Where do you live by the way? It might be that the area where you live, is indeed saturated. (Would you consider moving for the job?)

It's almost like anecdotes like this one don't have any merit. Btw, I'm working for Nintendo, my uncle got me hired.

>"Working" unpaid

I hope you fucking die

Majority of jobs are C.R.U.D. jobs where you don't have to be particularly good in programming or computing to succeed. You don't have to be an ICPC finalist to write some stupid mobile app

But to claim a physicist who takes a Python 101 course knows as much as a CS grad is retarded. Only reveals the arrogance of the physicsfag.

I did alot of webdev, but I basically stopped trying to get a job.

I went into video game development full time and am hoping to make a career out of it. Code base for the game is 31k LoC, but I know that doesn't really mean too much unless you see it.
I'm unironically starting to have a lot of fun with it, since the framework I made for it is finally starting to pay off in terms of "I want to do a b and c...oh wow I can implement all of those into a system in 5 minutes and have editor tools ready in 10"
I know the game market is oversaturated as fuck, but so is the book market. I've gotta try...
I thought I was happy doing webdev until I realized how much better gamedev is, plus I'm tired of the constant "Oh user, just one more thing, could you add X feature (which will require you to refactor everything you just did)?" 3 fucking times a month

What's your resume look like?

>these people are purposely not being utilized
What the fuck man, servants get utilized. We live in a free world now you're meant to utilize yourself. This guy never once tried to sell his own labor directly to customers and DEMANDED someone else take his profits and tell him what to do. No wonder he failed.

8.5 by 11 white Pdf document with some bullet points

web dev really is the current year's architect, in the sense that there's a mix of aesthetic and technical focus while still be paying well

I have a master's degree, been employed for 2 years (only half-time, hence why I'm still looking for jobs), have applied to 280 positions over this period of time.

I go out of my way to be a good coworker by working overtime, overly friendly, taking extra shifts etc.

I've let my boss know several times now that I'm interested in more work.

Despite this, I've not been to a single interview or heard anything from my boss.

Having a degree is bullshit
Being a good coworker/employee is bullshit
Applying to jobs is bullshit
Showing initiative/being a go-getter is bullshit

At this point, I'm fully convinced people only hire people they know IRL either through a coworker or their friends circle.

I'm about to put a bullet in my head, but as I'm currently at home for Xmas, I'll wait for the new year.

the bottom line is if you're not above average in raw ability then you're dispensable

We live in a post-meritocratic society. You may have heard about the trannies who infiltrated Linux, they admit this openly.

The Western governments at this point in time are not interested in advancement or development of humanity or harnessing this potential. Innovation is instability and unpredictability, they are not interested in that, they are interested in control. I don't know why this has been the shift of focus, but it is. It's why there are now diversity quotas and X percentage of women must fill all positions, regardless of skill. It's why at this point in time, excelling above others is rarely rewarded anymore - it's often punished with more work.

This is effectively soft communism, your labor has been devalued to become worth as much as someone else who contributes less. The only way to "get ahead" is to feign stupidity so you have to expend less or equal energy to your peers. Doing so will spare you a lifetime of exhaustive disappointment.

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Bump

If your PhD isn't from Harvard/MIT/Caltech/Princeton/Stanford/Berkeley or a school of similar caliber it isn't worth the paper it's printed on, unfortunately.