Debate me: a universal flat land tax payed into an actually universal income system based on a deflationary reserve currency is the only way to fix our problems. For a government to own a piece of land and enact its laws onto the citizens of that land they would need to pay into the UBI system and then that money would be distributed to every citizen on earth. In a civilized world where we can realize it is every mans right to fight for their land on earth this would replace brute strength and bloodshed to claim land with economic warfare for land. If you are a citizen currently unhappy with the government you would be able to purchase a piece of land from east asia as long as you could afford to pay into the UBI system. If you were not independently wealthy you might have to strike a financing deal with the chinese government and sign a deal to be a vassal of their state with your land, if you were independantly wealthy you could keep the land. If you are not wealthy enough to purchase the land outright forever but have a lot of money you could purchase it but would have to not piss off the banks and countries your wealth is located on else they steal your money and run. Debt collectors would be the only army necessary, if you have not payed into the UBI a private debt collection coorporation would come kill you and would sell of your land to the highest bidder, maybe the chinese government for example, and pay down the debt on the land with the income. This is absolutely the best system for all of our ills, it would maximize the freedom of humanity in every sense while still allowing a civilized society where anarchistic tendencies are cut to the minimum.
Debate me: a universal flat land tax payed into an actually universal income system based on a deflationary reserve...
>deflationary reserve currency
You got a bingo
No for real though, if some sort of World Order central bank reserve currency were impleneted into this system and the USA claimed a majority of idealist sympathizers on the board in this system then they could just inflate the currency in order to collapse other governments early and claim all the land they want dirt cheap. It needs to be a deflationary currency because then the cost value of keeping the land would need to be higher then sitting on the money and putting it into the system later. This would keep land value stable as well.
Our only problem is inflation as it dissociates reward and value creation and incentivises parasitic behaviour
Can be solved by everyday people understanding gold is the best measure of value over time or by the adoption of a currency that is non debasable even when the users of that currency dont understand the evil of debasement
>universal income system
Anything managed by the government will be wasted and given over to kikes, single-moms, niggers, and welfare queens.
>the only way to fix our problems
Stopped reading there.
What disassociates reward is being an unwillful vassal of a state. You are correct that inflationary central currencies are part of that problem, however not having a peaceful and obtainable solution to becoming a self governed entitity is also a part of the problem.
It will not be managed by a government system, it will be managed by the people of the world. An open and free system for all. It will need to be initally introduced by a world government but a discerning and conscious citizenship can oversee the process until its frutation.
so communism in other words
kys
It's more retarded than communism. Communism wants to abolish currency/money.
This is the half baked rambling of some retard who won't even take the time to format his wall of text to make it more digestible.
The only reason people have conscious or unconscious problems with the state is because it is a wealth extraction system via debt, taxes and inflation.
In societies that are designed to empower citizens (societies where value creation is the best way to get wealthy) the society is loved, people are rationally and genuinely ready to die to protect the legislative and cultural foundations of socities that empower the individual.
We live in a society where central banks maximise the employment by making people poor via currency debasement. People who are not aware that gold is the measure of value over time cannot get via creating value because the rate of debasement is to fast, so the people that gain power are the ones that are stupidly exceptional, criminals or those that harvest liquidity in financial markets. Keynesian monetary policy optimises society for suffering
I posted Henry George meme on Jow Forums the first day the board was created and I got banned. I feel like moderation has gotten less stringent since then.
I was actaully one of the proponents of LVT back on Jow Forums when it was first created. There were some good debates, but the level of discourse on Jow Forums is way too low to actually get through to anyone, but yes OP, there are those of us that agree with you. Have you ever considered the implications of using blockchain along with an LVT system?
It is far from communism friend, the money you will be reciving from this land tax will be nowhere near enough to buy your own land or anything. Furthermore even if you dont want land as many will decide and want to live as a vassal under a state as you currently do then you will most likely not be able to live solely off of the income, otherwise nobody would be making money and your state would be a zombie state just waiting to go under at the first economic flick from a larger state. This is very very far from communism, it is just redistribution of mans natural right for land to everyone that is all. It eliminates monarch tendencies because subpar heirs to your kingdom will not make as much money and thus lose land, where as lineages that truly provide for the earth and others will ser their riches continue growing for generations. It is the most capitalistic solution to a random world.
Yes that is exactly what I imagine, blockchain is a revolutionary tech in my mind just for this. I am glad others agree with me, I will read up on him thanks user. I read mostly political and moral philosophy I dony run into too much niche economic theory these days thanks for introducing me to some new reading.
Lmao.
not all people would have equal quality of land and thus not equal opportunity
This is sort of like Georgism, which has no relation to communism. Brainlets and their opinions
Laugh all you want, this is something completely feasible. The only reason you cant see something this big could grow is because your first world sense of morals has been debased and faded by a government that ripped the spine out of our parents for generations. It is hard to stand on your own without a spine, so grow one and realize a temporary moral ceasfire of the length to bring a new world system about is feasible enough for this idea to see the light.
Thats fine, sure you could have a state nitpick all the nice sunny land and all the fertile land to become a tourism and agriculture powerhouse, if people dont want to join them simply dont buy their goods and dont feed them outside revenue. Simply let their state slowly rot as no capital influx comes from outside and they eat their original capitalbase. If people do keep giving them capital influx though and they keep making the UBI payments then that means they are doing something right and deserve this land they have.
Read the book Progress and Poverty. It's kind of like what you're saying but he makes the argument for a single tax on land seem like the most obvious thing a government could ever do,.
No debate, that'd work well...from an economic level. It'd be fair, be very rewarding for businesses while still ensuring a decent quality of life for all.
It won't work unfortunately due to racial, cultural and social reasons. Frankly, all the Whites and Asians will wind up supporting all the others, who outnumber (in total) the people paying into the system & will demand more and more gibs. Not only that but certain (((people))) actively want the world to be unfair, and they have the power to keep it that way. It's unironically why I stopped being an AnCap, we could build your world using smart contracts and decentralised voting today - but it's doomed to fail due to human nature. No post-scarcity utopia for us I'm afraid.
Flat tax & a state free system makes it basically Anarchistic, and since business & money is acting as the fuel it's AnCap specifically. The UBI is acting as an anti-tax mechanism. Get off Fox News, thinking anything that isn't kike usury is "communism".
you're a retard, USSR used currency/money to exchange for goods and services.
I disagree I feel this works very well into human nature, it is satisfying to both the nature of justice and the nature of greed in humans. Everyone will be empowered with the ownership of the earth under them, what they decide to do with that ownership is entirely up to them though allowing some people to grab more than others. The only place human error can effect it is in implementing the system.