Be a programmer with higher education

>be a programmer with higher education
>try to freelance
>webdevs get $4/hour on freelancer
>try Fiverr
>propose cheap webdesign and programming Gigs for $5
>tons of views but no one buys

How do I even make money on freelance?

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Don't be shit?
Don't compete in a saturated market?

Why are you competing with pajeets and asians that will underbid you any time?

How do I freelance without competing with Pajeets?
Is that even possible?

You don't, you can't beat the pajeets. Now throw in AI and the future of programming becomes as easy as sending an email.

you become a consultant

not that I think you have the skills anyone will pay for

Are these pajeets even capable of creating something that actualy works?

If so, you can exploit thier almost free workforce in many ways.

no, they can't replace a first world programmer

Don’t bother with Fiverr, the site is jam-packed with street shitters. Use UpWork, take a few low-pay jobs to boost your rating, then pump your prices to $50 an hour and ignore shitty offers. That’s what I did.

Upwork denied my application.

make a fart machine

pajeet detected
post a photo of your hands with a timestamp

Trips confirms it. Are you a pajeet, OP?

No. Maybe Upwork is just a scam and a shitty website?

>>says the guy using Fiverr

Or maybe you’re a shit programmer. Never gonna make it.

No. I have a higher education and ten years of experience unlike most codemonkeys.

Why are you bothering with freelancing then?

Because I'm disabled and can't work in an office job.

Simple, don't freelance.

Just get a fucking job and work in an office. You have less competition there.

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Just collect your neetbucks and learn blockchain in the meantime

but Jow Forums told me you can freelance online, it's so easy!!

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You’re competing with third worlders. Unless you’re also a third worlder there is no point.

>>propose cheap webdesign and programming Gigs for $5

indians going for as low as $1 do way more
(yet full of shit, but people just don't want to pay)

Honestly, contact a tech job hunting agency like Workbridge, tell them you're looking for something. They will call you with companies looking to hire, or contract work, then just talk to the employers and work it out.
You can also make a consulting website, SEO it a bit, then start upping your LinkedIn connections, displaying what you can do, saying your available for contract work.
Also, get involved in your local university's entrepreneurial environment and market your services. Theyre always looking for someone to build apps and stuff.
I did these, and making approx 125/hr per contract.

Why would you choose such a crazy over-saturated job?
Literally get a trade.

I have a friend who does consulting. He only has an undergrad in economics and he made a million dollars off consulting.
And he hasn't even turned 30.
He has a severe psychiatric disorder (schizophrenia), and that didn't stop him.
He showed me his expensive cars and shit, so he isn't bullshitting.

wordpress? I've been learning wp just so I can start freelancing on upwork.

My white boy face will land me jobs, guaranteed.

U don't , unless you want to compete with third world programmers

> it didn’t work for me
> must be a scam, even though it works for everyone else

I have blond hair and blue eyes, yet my profile didn't even get approved on Upwork. I also have a higher education.
Upwork is a scam. They artificially inflate freelancer prices, and the demand for even high skilled work is very low.

Also, they even let low-tier Pajeets in.
But they won't let a guy with blond hair and blue eyes and higher education in, because they have an algorithm which limits the amount of people who sign up to artificially inflate prices.
The result is that there is no work as no one wants shitty service for a high price, and people on Upwork end up making as much as Pajeets because there is no demand for their work.

Work for small business in your area. They'll gladly pay you $5 an hour to make them a website.

Join a startup. They may not pay upfront but it might work just fine for you.
Or start your own with a help of biz.

This, you gotta carve out a niche for yourself. I’ve only gotten like 4 or 5 jobs on upwork after starting in April, but each of them I wrote a fucking amazing cover letter detailing how I’ve been in crypto since 2013 and know my shit, unlike all the countless other brainlet idiots running around masquerading as crypto experts despite not knowing what a blockchain was till late 2017. And all of those gigs paid ridiculously well

If you just offer generalized software services without selling yourself on some specific, very attractive skill or passion that only you have, you’ll definitely get eaten alive by the Indian horde.

This too, never even glanced at fiverr. Everything on that site reeks of curry, mainly due to the difference in how they focus on offering predefined “packages” of services, whereas upwork is a more in-depth, specialized, expert consulting type angle.

Oh, well then frick, you’re fucked

That’s literally where all the business is. And yes it is a scam and shitty website, but for some reason it’s where all the clients go, so you kind of have to use it. It fucking sucks and we need a better decentralized version that incentivizes more traffic than upfuck, asap

You could try Freelancer.com?

This for sure.
Being involved in a startup is a good way to network with other people with an entrepreneurial mind. You can make some pretty awesome connections and contract to others that want to build a business. They can also give you ideas to start some side projects.

put together a solid github profile and use upwork brother

>upwork
Literally a cuck website.

Work remotely then. There are lots of able-bodied people who do that full time for companies.

wtf is consulting even?

>hey guys, you should implement redis, hey guys, you should try nginx, hey guys use scss instead of css

is this it or am i missing the real point? why would that be worth so much?

What do you do if your passion happens to have a saturated market?
Just accept it and get a career that doesn't interest you?

Based trips of pajeet detection.

You are bullshitting, Rakesh. Post pic w timestamp.

heh, meanwhile i made an account there and i have never used it in 2 years

Upwork is a cuck website.

>download a piece of software that will be screen capping all your activity every 3 seconds
>connect a webcam so that the boss can see that you're at your place
>follow a schedule like at real work

Upwork is more of a slavery than regular wagecucking. You have no say in decision making and are treated like a literal slave. You must be either disabled or a pajeet from Ahmedabad to use this garbage platform.

a startup will work you to death only to fail and leave you with nothing.

It's like that? Fuck that, then. Guess I'll do freelancer, fiverr, and peopleperhour. Or are they the same?

Nope

Every time I hire someone off Upwork I always make it a priority to avoid Pajeets, and mainly only hire Russians. Nothing beats the Russians.

Just work at FAANG and enjoy 300k+ and cruisy work once you reach terminal level. Freelancing is a fucking scam.

you have to be literally the best, so good that people think you'll save them troubles just by pointing them to a right path and solving occasional technical issues. You'll be everyone's uni tutor basically

met a guy who does consulting as and EE and jesus christ he knows about EVERY electronics in fuckin shenzhen and could go on and on about every stupid thing from childrens toy to powerbanks.

Can I get a job if I learn Javascript?

a wageslave job? sure. freelance? I have doubts.

>your passion
Cry? What do you want?

hey OP im doing some project and need few coders are you interested

I can't think of any web or programming gig worth only $5. Charge more or clients will not respect you, end of story.