Has anyone treated depression/anxiety with pic related?

You have to understand that broadly speaking there are two types of depression. Depression due to chemical imbalances and depression caused by external factors.
Fungi and LSD will help you with the first and with the problems that are involved, such as anxiety and lack of motivation.
I have been taking small doses of lsd last year and they have been of immense help. You feel alive again for the first time in many years. I recommend it totally.
Now, do not expect miracles, the part of depression caused by external factors such as lack of money, illness, etc. It will not go away by taking a pill

See I'm the opposite. Financially fucked but I'm okay with myself and who I am and constantly work on self improvement. Psychedelics have helped. I've popped a lot of cherries with LSD. Every single person said it helped them sort through life and connect things they've never thought possible. My one buddy went from doing random freelance data analysis stuff to digital marketing in Florida for some vitamin company. Thry even bumped his pay from 135 to 165k in 6 weeks of working cuz they appreciated the talent

This, taking shrooms really helped me put my shit in perspective, but by no means was a cure. It just let me know what was important to me and how to get there. The important thing is to take every day as it comes

Unironically became interested in them around 13 and began growing them and using them. They’re extremely therapeutic if you respect them. If you disrespect them they’ll put you in your place, which is necessary for some people. Wrote a book about mushroom cultivation too, still selling it under a pen name.

Don't take less than 4-5 grams if you want a meaningful experience. Best place to get them is the dark net. Good luck fren.

You're posting on a crypto board. Buy some shrooms on the DN or if you want to DIY get some spores over the clearnet and research how to grow them on your own. It's not that hard.
IME shrooms are great for most kinds of depression where the cause is not absolutely shit life choices. If you are just depressed seasonally or feel like you lack direction/meaning but otherwise have an okay life, shrooms are great. If you have lived a shit life, have other mental problems like schizophrenia or personality disorder or you are just all around a terrible person, better stay the fuck away.
>having a gun pointed to my head while tripping
That sounds nightmarish. Story time?
Yes

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Thanks m8. You really made me want to try this.
I'm booking my tickets to Amsterdam.

very easy to grow from spores.
nice hobby also which might help your depression more than the cubes

>story?

We went to drop acid with my friend to a house of some guy I did not know so well. He wanted some acid too, so I gave him too. This was supposed to be a "relaxing set & setting" and it was in the beginning.

Few hours later we were tripping hard; they went for a cigarette and I overheard the guy got a text message and was talking to my friend "We should leave man..." but my friend was like "Im too fucked up to walk" and they jut went back inside

20min later 3 guys bursted through the door. Turns out the guy owed serious money to some druggies and they came to his house to get their money. I watched the guy getting beaten by 2 guys and the 1 guy pointed us with a gun. I was 3-4 hours into my acid trip at this point and I thought I was going to die.

They beat the guy after a while but noticed that he was so fucked up on acid and crying on the floor just constantly repeating "I pay tomorrow I pay tomorrow I pay tomorrow".

Luckily some neighbors of the guy came home and the "thugs" decided to leave thus the stressful situation ended.

Worst set & setting of my life, you do not want some meth head druggies money debtors as your buzzkiller.

Fuck yeah I have, shrooms possibly saved my life. I deal with some chronic depression that seems to be chemical imbalances or something. Shrooms can be fucking awesome, you should start slow and do 2 grams in a safe place with someone who’s done them before. Expect shit to get wacky as fuck, these are next level compared to weed so just kind of relax and let it overtake you. If you fight it and panic you’re gonna have a bad time. Some of the most amazing shit to do is watch planet earth on shrooms, you’ll be blown away by the beauty and grand design of the whole thing. You can grow your own shrooms pretty easily, or even pick them if you live in a warm climate around cow pastures. If you can’t get shrooms order hawaiian baby wood rose seeds on eBay. The come up is pretty tough and they suck on the stomach, but research it and it’ll give you a similar feeling of euphoria and understanding of the universe. Definitely find a way to try it but don’t take this shit lightly

Wtf. Do you live in a movie? Or is it how is life in America?

>in a safe place with someone who’s done them before.
What's the risk? Is it really dangerous?
Am I in real danger if I take them alone?

I did feel a lot better for weeks or maybe even months after a shroom trip. I was camping by a lake with friends and god damn I just felt so happy. We were all on cloud 9 and just shared connections that are impossible sober. But we all didn't take that much. The come up was intense and made me a little anxious and sick but it was all good from there. I imagine its a lot different when you take a lot.

>the part of depression caused by external factors such as lack of money, illness, etc. It will not go away by taking a pill
By getting your brain thinking (psychologically) in a new manner it can give a new perspective and acceptance. It also starts a massive level of neurogenesis that many depressed people are lacking, so your physical brain changes as well.
For some this is enough to get back in control of life externals and use this initial boost to start tackling what can be changed.

I really wish this was more socially accepted. I am older now and been though lots, really wish younger anons (in their 20s) could have people to use these tools with in a positive manner. Modern society does some stuff right - we lack shamans and therapy while well meaning, is often hollow.

>made 120k last yr, but i am sad every singe day because its all so meaningless. only my financial self is on solid footing, im a drone

This is a bitter truth, and goes against much of what society is trying to tell/sell you - but the amount of money (once you pass having basic needs met & some "fun money") you have has very little to zero correlation to your happiness, excitement, and overall contentment in life longterm. A good quote is "Happyness is quickly metabolized."

If you think you a drone you are. I mean this is nicest way but you need to change your life. Meditate. Starting lifting, or if you already are, life harder and more volume. Cut out sugar completely from your diet. Get a hobby. And if this means you won't make 120K this year, but only make half that, who gives a shit? Your life - while you have obv gotten financial success - has become so shitty you are asking anonymous people on a cambodian weaving bbs if taking psychedlics will fix you. Yes they will help but you have to do some work. I really wish we could hang out and talk.

Believe it or not, this was in the civilized Yurop.

Me and my other friend (not the guy who got beaten) have jokingly talked about this how "Lady Alice" or "LSD" gets us in these weird situations as some sort of lessons if we do not respect her.

I actually stopped doing acid after that because I am too afraid what might happen next: also my last 5-6 trips were all bad.

My last trip with acid was 3 years ago where I perceived the whole society of ours as pyramid shape type of slave-and-masters type of scenario where I was botton of the barrel type of drone working ant etc. just feeding the machine. You get the point... It just made me more deppressed how fucking shit my life is and there is not much I can do to get out of this loop If I don't get rich.

I thought I'd be happier over 100k too but every raise is the same. I even have a family with 3 kids. Finding God is only way I made it. Keep in mind its not subverted neochristianity. That shit really is a trick to get you to lube up. Look to the past and to russian orthodox.

I've been in a similar situation. Met a Mexican weed dealer and I was hanging out at his house after picking up a bag. Suddenly the door got kicked in upstairs and he looked at me super serious and said "hide all of your shit. your phone your wallet your weed everything. don't make a sound" and then ran upstairs. I heard him getting the shit beat out of him for 10 minutes and then I heard them all leave. I went up to check on him, he was sitting up in a chair and seemed alive so I fucking dipped out the door and never came back. It has nothing to do with America really, every country has a seedy underbelly where owing money can get you killed.

>What's the risk? Is it really dangerous?
>Am I in real danger if I take them alone?
It's a matter of self control and self trust. You are no real physical danger no taking actual LSD, mushrooms, etc alone. Problem becomes if it triggers some latent psychosis (very rare) or your LSD turns out to be some shitty chinese NBOME garbage and you have a panic attack (more common than it should be ffs) or you end up having a difficult time psychologically with no one you trust to get you through it.
If you go alone, start small and go slow to feel it out and see how you react physically and mentally.

>"LSD" gets us in these weird situations as some sort of lessons if we do not respect her.
I stopped smoking cannabis for this reason. Once you're past the party and get fucked up phase and have a relationship with a chemical, you will know when it's time to pack it up and I think you hit that. Thats a wild story.

just grow them
this is my favorite guide
rollitup.org/t/bulk-mono-tek-pictorial.395504/

never used horse poo, and never had to run more than 1 tub
one run gives you enough for several years and enough to give away to friends

those do not look like psilocybe.

seriously listen to this guy user.
also don't over do it.
good luck

I usually get them in the supermarket. They taste nice with pasta and bechamel cream but they didn't cure my anxiety and depression at all

The last time I took acid I remember starting to get depressed, but then realising how ridiculous those thoughts were.

The best cure for depression/anxiety is going keto, not kidding. The price to pay tho is constipation.

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I don't know man, I wish I kinda had never done acid. Not that it was some NBOME shit or somethig like that, it was good old acid all right, but I kinda feel I fried my brain or something.

Feels like this after being sober for like 3 years. The only way I can describe it as being "spiritually infected" even though it may sound retarded. I just would want to go back a time when I had never done any acid, I think it fundamentally changed something in me, and for worse.

Not in a sense that I got some sort of mental illness from it. I just feel like contaminated or something.

I did not know this was a cambodian site, kek

Good advice. Shrooms alone wont fix anyone but they sure do allow you to cut the bullshit and stop lying to yourself. It makes you think about things you didn't know you had on your mind and put pieces together in ways you hadn't before, my experience anyway.

get some spores from this site
sporeworks.com/
say shroomery in the additional notes at checkout and they get you a free syringe

penis envy is the strongest mushroom and the mutant blobs get over 4-5 grams each and are super dense
it's a crazy fun strain to play with
beside that basically every cubensis is the same

This

Was expecting Ricardo

Fuck drugs OP. Start lifting, eat well and read about stoïcism. Marcus Aurelius' Meditations is a good start. If you think some phallic lookin' fungus is going to change you for the better, you're a faggot.

>he DN or if you want to DIY get some spores over the clearnet and research how to grow them on your own. It's not that hard.
thanks for the reply fren. i do lift, i have hobbies, even a small circle of friends. im probably ~12 bodyfat rn and i can respectably lift for my weight class.

my mind is my biggest issue, i dont know if its all the basketweaving forum drilling the images of dr shekelberg laughing all the way to the bank, or my own laziness but i really hate slaving for 65 hours a week in a cubicle and i hvaent been able to come to terms with that reality over the next 20+ years if my coin bags dont save me :/

grew some with shotgun tank, fucker dried out too fast and we lost all PE - the ones that did get harvested were so strong, like .2g was enough to feel slight buzz. Now in aquarium with full conditional control and massive fruits are popping. Easy as pie with common sense.

send help sos. anonymous smart contract to them ship to me?

haven't grown for a few years and have started wanting to again
they have penis envy now? never managed to get the spores with a syringe
might actually need to clean out all my crusty old tubs and mason jars if true...
please say it's true

also yeah, thanks for the shroomery ref tip

You can never go back to a time before you had these experiences. Your description of spiritually infected is apt.
Do you think you can re-change your brain again to be ok with what you learned? You dont have to reply - just think about. Do you think your brain can recover from this?
Also consider that your traumatic experiences while on LSD came at a time where your psyche was prime for programming, and it got some grade A trauma. I overcame PTSD and had that contaminated feeling when I was suffering with it. It does get better - especially if its been 3 years. It sounds really cliches, but 7 years is enough to purge anything from your brain totally.

im a burger.. any tips on ordering here without trouble?

assuming VPN + not my address is the move? thx fren

if you want to self-medicate based off of my experience - i say shrooms - it doesn't work. you can trip and it resets your mind but then you fall into the same sort of habits you've had reinforced earlier. it's a temporary relief, if any.

my biggest "breakthrough" was with mdma. i think that's about the only thing that can help. it's been used to treat PTSD
but you can't just sit in a room and do it i did mine at a festival and it was life changing. not everything is smooth sailing after but it definitely helped.

not now, we are just pinning atm. wasnt gonna sell them (illegal af), just a group of us for personal use, but this would be way to do it

>penis envy
Wrong. Mazatapec.

im surprised to hear mdma was your breakthru..

looking more into it thx

if you're in europe just order a growbox from netherlands, you can use a normal web shop

this dude forgot about his tub for over a month and this PE blob just kept growing to over a pound haha

also on sporeworks
>We accept most major credit cards, Cryptocurrency (BTC, BCH, ETH, ETC, LTC, DASH, DOGE, PIVX, TRON, XLM, XRP, XMR, XVG, ZEC, etc), and mail in payments.
you can spend your shitcoins there

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True, spores are easy to get

so easy to grow and legal to buy spores. Shrooms aren't really a party drug by any means, so usually pretty cheap but hard to find.

wrong
not even close

azurescens might come close to PE but mazapatec are pretty standard strength

spores are legal in 47 states and it's a US company
spores are only illegal in California Idaho and Georgia

>you should meditate and practice mindfulness
why do people keep spewing this shit, wtf does sitting on your butt in silence do for you

literally buy an aquarium and a temperature controller and put pieces together for under 100euro and a few hours work.

most people's minds are like snowglobes constantly swirling with shit. stillness lets you see things more clearly.

Just grow them, costs almost nothing....you can get the spores for almost free on FSRE

largest expenses are a decent Pressure cooker and a home made flow hood
the flow hood cuts contamination problems by way more than 50%
also look into mono tubs for bulk
i like the 6qt dub tubs.
very neat and easy to maintain humidity + temps

when did /biz turn into the shroomery??

KEK at least you have a great story now

Nope. Amateur grower confirmed. Mazas will have you literally seeing the matrix source code streaming in front of your face just like in the movie.

You dont need a pressure cooker...check tindilization. Also ir you have time you can just went them 3 times a day and they will do fine

look Jannies! another thread with absolutely no correlation to business and finance! fucking faggot jannies

no one cares you sound like a douche

no need for flow hood, this isnt a BSL2, its literally shit berries we're growing. just be careful and no need - we've boiled the jars (not pressure cooker) and it was fine. Pressure cooker takes a lot of time out of it though.

also the mushroom got me into crypto hard in 2016
not sure how it will help you while wallowing in your depression OP
no amount of cubes would have helped you being justed last year

i've grown enough of them to know better user

if you are growing bulk it helps a ton. it isn't bad advice
besides they're not really prohibitively priced. why not save your self a day?

selling shrooms is a business retard

ever try taking spore prints on your kitchen counter top?
not neccessary but cuts out growing petri dishes of bacteria

no, I am sure this would be cheaper long term but why waste the time if you can just buy spores in a sterile syringe.

I am sick of mason jars, I think next batch will be in tubs - seems soooo much easier.

>no one cares
>thread on efficacy of mushrooms
kys immediately

cloning your best shroom is a pride thing I suppose
this hobby gets you hard.
true you can do rice flour in a source-pan and grow an ounce or two

why not just buy the spores once and use the honey tek to have an endless supply

it gets old quick

also maybe try vacuum sealed bags of WBS or corn in the pressure cooker.
i tried on my last grow and got decent results.
will do it next time

This is roughly correct.

If you're 'depressed' because you've been ignoring life priorities, psychedelics will force you to acknowledge and come to terms with your fuckup. And then you can proceed with fixing your life.

If your depression is biochemical, ie, nothing is wrong or out of order with your life but you still feel like shit anyways, psychedelics will probably not fix you. They may offer a reprieve, and it's frankly a better reprieve than most intoxicants out there, but you will come back down to earth after and your brain will return to baseline and you'll be depressed again. They won't magically rewire your broken circuitry.

Then again, most peoples' depressions are a mix of both these problems. And since shrooms are a) cheap (grow them them yourself), b) fun, and c) reasonably safe if administered in a supportive environment, I would say there's no reason not to try them. At best you'll get all your shit sorted out, at worst you'll have a good time. Taking shrooms in a safe and comfortable environment dramatically minizes the potential for a bad drip, down to near-zero.

I would recommend to stick to shrooms because they (in my experience) have a naturally positive/euphoric vibe to them which protects against bad trips, whereas other psys (especially LSD) are more affectively neutral in that regard (ie, the experience is exactly what you make out of it, for better or for worse).

show me where exactly in the OP it talks about selling shrooms for “business”? ohhhh....it doesn’t. OP post should be classified as drug seeking and blackballed. this isn’t fuckin blue light or r/shrooms. want em? look on dream market or order spores.

Listen to some Abraham tapes

Yup, had that same thought on my first trip. One thing I wrote down was “system to keep us enslaved”

that's only part of it. mindfulness is more a practice of being aware of what's going on in your mind. observing the automatic thoughts/chatter rather than letting it go on without notice. after a while you may come to realize that the chatter your mind makes isn't you. you realize you are the witness to the chatter. then you go down the rabbit hole.

>Meditate. Starting lifting, or if you already are, life harder and more volume
seriously what the fuck is with all this meditation shit and lifting memes?

I didnt take them to treat anything, but I did find myself drinking a lot less. I dont go out of my way to find them though, they're kind of seasonal (although I have had really good homegrown mushroooms). If they have lots of blue in the stems, you're gonna be trippin balls (generally, I guess there's a few different types of psychedelic mushrooms).

Mods do your fucking job. Not relevant to Jow Forums

> last trip with acid was 3 years ago where I perceived the whole society of ours as pyramid shape type of slave-and-masters type of scenario where I was botton of the barrel type of drone working ant etc.
they call it the truth drug for a reason

ps if you've ever been into any tranny or ladyboy shit go take another look at the convincing ones again when you're on LSD, you'll see right through the deception

It worked for me. Went out to a large field sorrounded by forests in a valley with friends.
Had one of the best times of my life, it jumpstarted my brain.
Was half a year ago. Should do it again soon.
Cant recommend it highly enough. I am personally scared of acid, shrooms are natural

Yeah it's gotten a bit ridiculous. If your life sucks ass meditating and lifting aren't going to fix it; they'll be balm on a third-degree burn. The reason there are so many miserable people in the first-world is probably due to what Kaczynski talks about, a total inability to complete the power process, separation from natural surroundings, and the absence of meaningful community. Surrogate activities like lifting, meditation, and other hobbies will all help, but they're ultimately palliatives, not cures.

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Thanks for this.

>I would recommend to stick to shrooms because they (in my experience) have a naturally positive/euphoric vibe to them which protects against bad trips

So far I've only tripped on shrooms once, at a pretty high dose, and while I had some very euphoric hours, when the trip was over I felt the strongest depression I've ever felt. I think it depletes whatever makes one feel euphoric in high doses or happy in small doses. Or maybe it was just going back to feeling normal.

I'd recommend against taking something that makes you artificially happy. Better follow regular rules like working out eating healthy etc first and acquire happiness by natural means.

>takes a bunch of acid and looks at ladyboy shit
kek, what rabbit hole did you fall down prior to lsd user?

explain more, how does this effect you negatively in your day to day?

the micronutrients are great for you. I like making them into soup with daikon and chinese yam

I don't think those a psychoactive. Look like enoki mushrooms.

What you want are Amanita muscaria (pic related)

As for psilocybe cubensis, it really depends on the baggage you're going in with. Personally they showed me shit that i didn't want to see. Took me about two to three years to adjust.

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They're not supposed to be cures. They're the crutches that you use to stand back up again and then get your shit fixed.

"Getting your shit fixed" is greatly going to vary form person to person, but usually involves healing some kind of unresolved suffering like a childhood trauma or bad shit running in your family.

Yeah, i agree, if your life is shit, maybe not the best thing to take them. Because "you" wont be able to lie to yourself anymore. You'll see yourself for the piece of shit that you are.

they dont call it a "trip" for nothing, you're pretty tired after it and you should probably just get some sleep

you're fine the next day tho

anyone have any experience with gotu kola?

A big (three tabs) acid trip this summer unironically saved my life after I got very muddled up in severe (suicidal) anxiety and addictions.

Whats a good .onion to procure?

hehe cute lil polar bear

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Yup. I took these many years ago when I was severely depressed. Didn't know what I wanted to do in life. Took magic shrooms and the answer was made so clear to me. Came down from the trip with unbound happiness and a newfound appreciation for life.