Posted 21 hours ago

there's a lot of shit applicants, I'm sure, but remote work is very competitive and hard to get. I'm a competent dev with 5 years remote experience in the US, and I only get a response back from 1/100. that's just an initial response...it's been years since I've made it past the initial interview as a remote dev.

wider shitting streets await

>Amsterd*m
dan moet je niet in zo'n kankerstad wonen

By not being pajeettier

So if I start a gameing company, I wouldnt have problems hiring people?

People? They will come.
Good people? You better pay good.

>nothing to do with mass immigration

This is what I fear. Im not programmer myself, but did study until I quit. So Ive seen the level of idiots that get thru university with diplomas.

How do I make sure I get decent programers? Do I hire external programmer that can do interview process for me to get initial batch of senior programers?

%90 of those applicants are garbage tier who don’t even meet the majority of the requirements. People literally just spam apps at jobs in the hopes they get lucky and snag an interview.

> I can't recognize good programmer
> I know, I will hire good programmer to do it for me

user, shouldn't you rather be looking for a technical co-founder? someone with proven track record will also know some people he can recommend

If you want to start a coding company with absolutely no knowledge in the toppic, you either:
- throw a shitload of money into recruiting and hope for the best
- team up with a experienced coder to work with (if you are a business guy, this is more easy - I have yet to meet a coder who is able to understand even most basic bookkeeping) and learn on the way
- learn it yourself and hire fresh graduates while working together with them near minimum wage

But if I get cofunder then I have to split decisions. I dont wanna do that.

Decisions are done by those, who have the competences under their wing.
If you have a financial/business background, you do the strategic financial decisions.
If you have a technical background, you do the technical decisions.
If it overlaps, you need to compromize or decide.

If you cannot do this, doing business with your own company is not for you anyways.

> I have to split decisions. I dont wanna do that
user, maybe I'm reading you wrong, but with that attitude it will be hard for you to keep competent people around... picture related how it typically ends up

one of a benefits of competent co-founder is the ability to point out occasional differences between what's in your head and the objective reality, even if you don't have one you will be relying on the team for it anyway - in that way you will always be compromising some of your grand vision, to not do so would be sub-optimal

this one is onto something, but I would recommend against 3 option, I was in a very similar situation and it was a disaster, people who got outsmarted on pay will not outsmart the market,

have you considered outsourcing the dev team? no way, you want a gaming company? if I may ask what do you bring to the table? not that I doubt you, but maybe it will give us something to work with...

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How do I split company with cofounders? 50/50 even tho im only investor? 80/20?

I bring money and game design psycology. I need programers to bring my ideas to life.

Talk to friends who are already working in your field and have them get you interview at their companies before the job even hits Indeed. If you can't manage this, you're stuck fighting traffic...

Option 3 can go well, but it heavily depends on the people.

>How do I split company with cofounders?
By learning to delegate, setting up fields of competences where you are simply forbidden to make important decisions, because you are not able to make sound decisions in the first place.

Example: for a while, I was a partner within the company of my father, who had a company in construction.
While I did any decision regarding finances with little to no discussion with my father (because I majored in this field), I had not a single word to say about what they do on site (because I can handle my stuff with my own flat, but cannot build a house).

Rename yourself to Jan de Vries, say you have 5+ years of fulltime experience and only want entry-level salary and you got yourself a job my friend.

Can someone explain to me why so many who are versed in programming and scripting are looking for employment, instead of coming up with ways on their own to generate revenue using the skills they know? Do you need to be 140+ IQ or something to actually come up with the ideas even worth developing?

I know a lot of studs as cs students that need work over the summer. you can pay them minimum wage and they will produce for you. helps if you know how to code to measure their productivity

good
> I need programers to bring my ideas to life.
not quite, incidentally I'm currently involved in an indie game project, that would really benefit from having someone experienced about 10 months ago who would explain our vision guy how this specific browser game would benefit from using websockets instead of just plain ajax, we (a bunch of noobs) wouldn't now have to rewrite all this code after finding out that the game would be so much better if server could actively send some info for players without them asking about it! it wasn't in the original vision, poor guy was unaware of this capability of modern browsers...

there are some things you don't know about, there are some you are wrong, it's just the nature of the world, your job as a leader is to use the team's skills and experiences to eliminate as many of those blind spots as you can, if you just use them as tools then you are under-utilizing the resources you are given

games are specific here, because they benefit greatly from one coherent vision, but that doesn't mean other people don't provide value, someone once even said that for great games the hardware also had it's input as various quirks contributed to what the final project looked like

is it really a problem for you if the lead programmer decides on Unity instead of Unreal engine if that would make the game better? I agree with that decisions should be made by those with domain experience, but would extent it with rule that other can also rise concerns and you have to evaluate how it impacts the big picture - for example what if you already invested heavily into assets that can't be for some reason ported to new engine? or there are literary only Unity programmers in the city? same thing can happen to you - it's not about giving up control, it's using what you got to eliminate uncertainties and obstacles to successes

at the end of the day you will be doing play testing anyway what if the game is objectively not fun?

>normies hear job makes money
>normies train for job
>normies ask for safety salary
>too many normies
>move on to next job
Happened to lawyers in the 2000s and starting to happen to programmers.

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notice how often companies address a "pain point" the founder came across, notice also that if programmers start businesses they often have programmers as customers solving some programming related problem

this is no accident, the IQ is not the only thing that matters - you need to find value to provide/problem to solve, if you have no idea about say farming then it will be very unlikely for you to revolutionize it, even if you came across the next big thing you may not even recognize it

it is possible to to do it, but usually it's just chance enlightenment... even if you ask people to came up with the idea they will just generate random garbage if they have no insight into any specific market, there are some heuristics that do a bit better - like trying to apply revolution from one filed to another eg "tinder, but for... " etc...

agree, but with no previous experience in software project management it's like playing on nightmare mode

meanwhile shitty welding certificate gets you 500k.
>you cant outsource welding to pajeets

Im this guy . Just got home from work.

Im hugely against useing software like unity or unreal to build something ontop of it, as those engines are general purpose engines and are bloated with stuff one doesnt need for the game you are makeing. Also might lack things you want, but doesnt have, and you therefor go with plan B instead of A.

I would prefer to build own engine even if the costs would be greatly increased. But like I said, Im not a programer and would need expirienced people to tell me Im an idiot for this stuff.

>enginedevving
Absolutely not going to make it.

picture is how your post looks like to potential hires

user, you are like those people who trade apartment in NY for small hut in the middle of Australian wastelands, sure it has a great view, but also lacks electricity and everything around wants to kill you... is this really what you wanted?

so you already made a major decision fully aware that you are not well informed in the matter - at least you understand this part, are you perhaps unaware that "making your own engine" is in top5 things not to do when making a game, it's either make an engine or make a game, but not both, never both, unless you really really have a good reason for it

consider the game not being a piece of code, but an experience to a player - you can probably (90%+) deliver that experience now with some already existing tech or spend months if not years inventing new tech to deliver pretty much the same experience somewhere in the undefined future

what it matters if Unity etc is bloated if it's not even you who will be using this tools? more so that the bloat can to a high degree be disabled or simply not used... ? unless programmer tell you that something specific will not play well with specific engine then it's just your prejudice or some misguided idea of purity that puts whole project under unnecessary risk

user, you don't want other people making decisions but the ones you make are provably sub-optimal

already touched on delegation, I will add that having one person make all the decisions is just a bottleneck

mental exercise
do you know what game are you making? easy right?
ok
do you know how map of the Earth looks like? easy right?
draw one without looking it up
when you finish look up if you got Canada and jungle Asia islands right
I forgot how this effect of brain lying to you that you know stuff is called, but it plays out similar in software projects, that is why you need specification or game design document, then show it to programmer for opinion

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just to expand, try not to focus on decisions but underlying values,

so it's not about deciding on this or that engine, but about considering user experience, performance, budget and other important aspects and then deciding on a choice that maximizes the expected value, whatever it may be, as long as it meets the most requirements

Why on earth would a bot submit an application? You are assuming majority of job seekers program bots to send applications, does not make any kind of sense. Bots read and filter the applications.

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You compete by sending out hundreds of applications of your own. Both sides have realised that this is a numbers game, which is why they use algorithms to try to filter out as many resumes as possible as well. Part of it is just because it's so easy to apply to jobs now; it takes barely 5 minutes to apply through their system (or even 10 seconds on a job board), and partly it's because there just aren't enough jobs to go around these days.