Why are so many Americans sleeping in their cars?

For some trades you do an apprenticeship, which you are paid for. It’s usually near minimum wage until you finish and can start earning real money tho.

>real money
you mean like $12/hr? $15/hr?

Kek, fucking leave this board already

Their muttish culture encourages parents kicking their children out of home at age 18, even if they can still support then comfortably and the 18 has only a shitty job and minuscule savings.

More like $30+ and you aren’t in debt

never seen trades pay that high except perhaps the oilfield.

I make $45 an hour doing air traffic control.
My dad was making $40 as a carpenter.
My sister was making $35 as a nurse.

air traffic control and nurse aren't trades you disingenuous faggot

Yeah I was overestimating journeyman pay, but you can easily get to $30+ in the Midwest with a couple of years of experience. Also the oilfields pay so much but working there seems so fucking hard. This guy on a discord server I’m in works there and he has to live on site for 2 weeks and work crazy hours, then they get like a week off. Rinse and repeat till you go crazy I guess.

People sleeping in their cars is what happens when you go off a gold standard and have a central bank.

"Quotation: "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.... I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." - Thomas Jefferson

You idiots don't understand that this is the result of (((inflation))) and going off the gold standard.

awesome

The issue isn't making 30$/hour. The issue is everyone is getting poorer when not on a gold standard.

Sure people making 12$/hour are fucked the most but people making 30$/hour are much poorer than those people who made 30$/hour in 1990.

I opened up my liberal friends eye to this who's been playing 20/40 LHE poker for a living since the 90's. He's always complaining that the corporations aren't paying enough and are hoarding and I said to him......

Your playing the same 20/40 LHE poker game today that you were playing in 1995 (and he earns 1bb/hour on avg which is 40$/hour..... that 40$/hour he was making in the game in say 1999 went significantly farther than the 40$/hour he makes today. And a ligh switched on in his head and he understood finally

You guys don't understand that even someone making 250k a year is poorer too. Everyone is getting poorer

I've been trying to get into atc the last 2 years. Any advice?

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so you just learned what inflation means

Has american abandoned multi generational households? In this economy it doesn't work like that anymore unless you're a high middle class

Oh shut the fuck up already lmao

Inflation has been skyrocketing for two+ decades, but they don’t accurately report it, so normies can’t wrap their head around it.

A box of full size corn flakes (which they now call value size, and is still smaller than the standard corn flakes box 20 years ago) costs nearly five dollars.

It costs TEN DOLLARS for a box of corn flakes and a gallon of milk. It takes an hour of wagie work to buy a box of toasted milled corn and a gallon of cow liquid. In 1960 that would’ve cost someone literally pocket change my comparison today, average person considered things like that inconsiquential.

Availability of luxury food items was scarcer, and expensive, but basic food staples were a given.

Only getting worse as well, America, and thus the wod, is fucked.

Holy shit 2013

No, but read the Thomas Jefferson quote I posted above. Most people don't understand how this is happening.

The min wage debate is the perfect example of how dumb people are on the left and right. The left says raise min wage to 15$ which is stupid...

The right says, "min wage isn't supposed to be a living wage, you need to get better educated and have we're skills to make more than min wage."

Now that's good advice but these supposedly constitutional conservatives aren't getting at the root of the problem because like I said everyone is getting poorer. Doesn't matter if your making 13$/hour or 73$/hour.

So the right doesn't understand it's because we aren't on a gold standard as to why we are having rapid inflation.

I mean just think how dumb people are..... everyone argues on the minimum wage going up or not.... but literally and I mean literally nobody is addressing why the fuck prices are rising in the first place.

Trump people say look! Wages are going up for the first time in forever! Well don't these people ever think to themselves why the fuck is cost of living rising so that wages have to keep up?

WhAt do you mean shut the fuck up? Thomas Jefferson is literally telling you what will happen and is happening if you have a central bank and no gold standard.

That's the problem in America. Nobody understands how this country was founded and what made it great to begin with.

And all you idiots say shit like.... b-b-but it's 2019 mannnng this isn't 1776. As if some arbitrary year like 2019 means that we are too advanced as humans to go back to some shiny rock backing the currency. The sun still sets in the west and rises in the east just like it did 2,000 years ago. Some things never change

The issue is MORE govt or LESS govt. doesn't matter what year it is. People in 1918 were saying the same thing. It's 1918 man... get with the times

Somebody making $73/hour is doing very well. Who cares about inflation if they are making more than 90% of everyone else in America.

Van life is /comfy/

I know someone who is earning 73$/hour is doing very well but you are missing the point im making. Even that person making 73$/hour is much poorer than someone who made 73$/hour in 1984.

I'm just showing you that everyone is getting poorer as a result of no gold standard and an illegal central bank

Tell me however you want and explain how we would get back on the gold standard?

People know that. Nobody thinks you're smart for pointing out the obvious. AND you derailed the thread. Cunt!

Despite what you may think of him, Trump is unironically the last hope of the west.

I’m sure he’s aware of inflation literally starving people to death, and the root cause. Short term it seems like they’re trying to make the US energy and import independent. As bad as it is here, its worse everywhere else, and we have to insulate ourselves from that if theres any hope for survival.

We’re well past the point of no return, but I hope he can pull it off. Literally no one else has the resources, or will, to even try.

Theres a reason the ultra rich are hording physical currencies. They’ve milked humanity for its riches and now theyre hedging for the collapse their greed has caused.

Remove any sensible limiters from the American economy, acquire vast hordes of inflationary funny USD, turn it into gold, enjoy the ride.

No they don't dude. The min wage left right debate you literally never hear either side talk about WHY are prices rising so much in the first place.

Everybody knows what inflation is, so why do you act like you discovered something hidden?

I love trump. I was at a rally of his 2 months ago. But when you talk to your typical trump supporter and I did while waiting in line. I was literally saying to them in line. We need to go back on a gold standard and get rid of the federal reserve and the Zionist's controlling our govt.

They were looking at me like I was an alien.

There's going to have to be a gold revaluation overnight. To purge all the debt from the system. If you assholes don't have even just 5-10 ounces of gold and or a couple hundred ounces of silver mark my words you'll be fuxked

Trump is a doddering retard that accidentally stumbled into the oval office, and stayed there because Putin decided it was in Russia's best interest to undermine the US.

The west is doomed.

When will this happen? whats going on. Or are you just saying *IF*?

Are these boomer youtube gold hoarders role playing fear porn fantasizing shit again?

are you 14 or is your iq 14?

"By this means (central banking/fiat) the government may secretly and unobserved, confiscate the wealth of the people, and not one man in a million will detect the theft."

- John Maynard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace

NOBODY KNOWS in fact most people think inflation is GOOD

My dad went to univ of Chicago MBA in finance... and he literally told me higher prices are better than lower prices.

Not when you're working a 9-5

You think trump has Andrew jacksons portrait in the Oval Office by accident?

You think china, India, and Russia have been accumulating gold in record tonnage for shits and giggles?

Standard Trump supporter just wants good paying jobs back and to keep illegals out of their communities.

They have no awareness of the hidden game being played on a global scale behind the curtain.

Be thankful they are brave enough to vote for him, for whatever their reasobs may be. Its enough they show up to vote, and that Trump is fully aware of deeper issues.

Even if we all go down I will be eternally proud the people showed up for Trump, that was the greatest night of my life.

Even if its too late it was one last gasp of American spirit on display. Consider the bravery it took for the average low info voter to do that, when just four years prior Obama got a second term because voting against a black guy made them nervous. (Also Romney an omega level cuck Reagan LARP).

I don't know when it will happen. But it's better to be early than one day late. I can assure you that Venezuelans wish they put even just 2% of their net worth in gold before the bolivar collapsed

No I know that...I'm just saying they don't understand what's happening and how it's happening.

The trump supporter gets it but they are really just as stupid and ignorant as the left as to how and why.

There's a lot of people who are aware of what's going on, more than you think, but still not everyone. They're just powerless to do anything about it.

16 year olds that think they're smarter than everyone.. the absolute state of Jow Forums in 2019.

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Ok this sounds cool then. ill keep my eyes on it, how did you learn of this though? any youtube channel you recommend? I/v been doing Jow Forums the past couple months so im out of the loop right now.

That Keynes quote above is spot on. 99% of the people don't understand that higher prices just means their wealth is being stolen

>there are 20+ year olds on this website that find this deep

kek

Hugo salinas price. The Mexican billionaire who is the owner of the equivalent of Walmart in Mexico. Start reading his shit. He's actively trying to have the libertartsd compete with the peso.

Kitco forums for gold and silver are good for knowledge about things.

The Andrew Jackson thing I don't remember who showed that but clearly makes sense since Jackson BTFO'd the Jews in 1832 when thy followed us to America to set up a central bank

Ok, you know what the problem is. Now what?

Then realize this is what everyone else is asking themselves.

High prices and a weak dollar good for you. Literally what you hear on lefty media every day.

UnirOnically the French who want to withdraw their money is the fix.

China a communist country... actually sponsored to iits citizens to buy silver way back in 2009.

You will NEVER hear an American politician telling people to buy gold and silver EVER. But to keep investing in the rigged stock market. The politicians think we are stupid... and the sad part is they are right.

Chinese quality of life is utter shit m8, you're not making this sound very appealing.

Who tf thinks inflation is good? I’ve never seen such a person. Your dad was probably meant higher price = higher quality, or maybe he’s retarded.

I get that as a collective, people can do X.

But how are you, the average man, going to coax a bunch of other fat lazy retards with nothing in common to get off their ass and go withdraw their money from the bank?

It's utter shit now and has been for a while but there's a paradigm shift coming. Chinese buy gold and silver. They have high end gold shops in malls there. You typical American is buying bullshit at Walmart and your avg citizen in china is buying gold and silver.

People who say oh well china is fucked without America buying their Shit. You think china has ramped up their shit the last 30 years to sell to the tapped out American forever and ever?

They have a billion people and they will start becoming consumer themselves.

How did America become great? Because we MADE SHIT. And Americans BOUGHT American. China is making shit now too and their population will become the consumers

I don't know I mean the fact that the French are doing that there is a HUGE fucking happening. And shit like that tends to go viral. Just like brexit and trump winning. Happenings like that don't stay isolated

My favorite thing is how blatant it all is to anyone who actually pays attention to what things cost.

Wages go up 3% in a year and libsbhits screaming about inflation, ignoring the 250-1000% real inflation that has occured in commodities over the last two decades, while importing hordes of illegals has wages still at 1985 levels.

They aren’t on the side of average people, put it that way.

no you are personally doomed the west will be fine though wake the fuck up you dumb cunt. people like you who are willing to throw the entire country under the bus just because you didn't get your way are trash.

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Fake news. There's no chance any decent looking Thot will ever need to sleep in their car

Yeah underestimating a literal mad genius to a point you consider him a retard will surely lead you to victory!

You are a robot, and I feel sorry for you.

This was not an accident, but a calculated deconstruction by an eagle eyed opportunist who saw a chance to beat a system designed SPECIFICALLY to make this kind of thing impossible.

But yeah, Drumpfkins a retard, got it.

Kill all Jews and their cock sock puppets then steal their all shit like just as any respectable revolutionary.

>able to afford a car
entitled, spoiled, privileged western women need to die

because living in a meme city is more important than having a comfortable happy life

I think you are being naive about this whole situation.

You need to get this idea out of your head that Trump is your friend.

You've probably heard speculation or talk recently that we're going to get rid of the Fed and go back to a gold standard. Sounds great doesn't it? It does. Except they're planning for a gold-backed DIGITAL currency, and you're going to be chipped like cattle with an RFID tag, which Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner happens to own. All transactions will go through this new central authority and every single penny will be accounted for so there is no exchange of finances for eager revolutionaries. Suddenly you realize this new paradigm is not for your interest at all, but rather you were a useful idiot in order to make the final seize of control over every single aspect of everyone's lives. Complete enslavement.

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This guy is gonna save America from the Jews and their filthy banks?

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This thread has convinced me to leave Jow Forums.

Thanks guys. I unironically appreciate it.

why's that?

>Russia's best interest
I can't handle it, this is so fucking retarded.. Guess what fuckwit, a strong america with trumps message is NOT in Russia's interest, a socialist cuckfest with Clinton is in Russia's best interest. Where the fuck did all these idiots get the notion that Trump is in Russia's interest, fucking drooling idiots.

This thread is literally a debate between people unironically suggesting:
>gold standard
>Trump is a Russian plant
>No Trump is a 4D chess genius
>let's all live in vans and earn $10/hour for corn flakes
This is not an intelligent forum. Not worth my time.

So...anywhere else on the internet basically

People will eat whatever shit their master's feed them. I miss the NEETs.

I don't disagree with what your saying.

>expecting intelligent people on Jow Forums

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What is wrong with a gold standard? It's in our constitution for a reason.

>oh, they were just old racists

The ENTIRE reason you are throwing your money in shitcoins is because you can't make it anymore like everyone could make it under a gold standard

Van living is a great way to reduce expenses. If you don't want to do it - then don't do it. Simple, right?

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Literally every single problem in the economy is a result of fiat money and not being on a gold standard.

You know what term you never heard under a gold standard? "Income inequality"

It didn't fucking exist.

Literally people living in vans is the result of "income inequality" which has been brought on because we are off a gold standard

I'm a Turk and as a Turk, I don't understand why some of you guys defending Trump and seeing him some kind of savior? Do you think this is a motherfucking game? Trump slip through all of this bullshit to save your future? Do you think people who kill, rape, mutilate children and babies for fun leave their well-being just like that? Just because millions of bumblefucks throwing some paper in a fucking box? The guy is a walking definition of Shabbos Goy. Why you guys don't ever talk about Wilbur Ross? The guy is literally of one the servants of Rothschilds and saved Trump's ass from bankruptcy multiple times. Do you think this is a coincidence?

>just old racists
You're on Jow Forums nobody thinks this.

Gold standard is retarded because there's no justification for using gold as a standard versus anything else. Lolbertarians seem to have this way of arguing about what qualifies as "money" and gold just has this exception to all of the rules because of history.

If you want to make a currency outside of banking control (good luck) that's fine but there are plenty of more fungible and practical things you can use besides a chunk of metal.

But if you realized what you're up against you wouldn't be arguing for the gold standard as if it were just some random policy proposal like raising your taxes 0.5%. The fact that you don't control your money is a matter of loss of sovereignty.

You don't debate your sovereignty back.

Kek'd, the one in the bottom of the picture.

I don't live in burgerland but I suspect that these art degree mongoloids can't afford an apartment thanks to them moving to places like LA in hopes of "finding their dreams" and become artists or actors. So.. they end up pushing this garbage to feel better about themselves by normalizing it.
I still don't understand why americans keeps going to useless universities if the threat of student debt hunts them. Why are you putting yourself in debt just to get an arts degree or a political science degree? I would never even consider that shit if I was going to get a debt of $100k+ to my name, fuck that.

>Dear diary, as a roach....

sleeping in a car is gross and is definitely different from living in a full blown vanhouse

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In short - good marketing. Trump's marketing campaign has made well-intentioned people think that he's their ally.

Gold qualifies as money because its inherently money. It has all the qualities that money has to be. It's almost like the anti gold crowd who says (money is what believe it is) means that people centuries and millenia ago picked gold randomly to be money just arbitrarily. As if sand could have just as easily been money for the past 5,000 years if people would have just picked sand to be money instead of gold.

There's a reason gold is money dude. And despite being de-monetized by govt is still MEASURES value perfectly... since if you go read the Bible you will see that 1 oz of gold bought you 350 loaves of bread 2,500 years ago. Lo and behold.....that same ounce of gold from 2,500 years ago still buys you roughly that same 350 loaves of bread today since the fiat value of that gold ounce is $1,300 which if you take to a grocery store will get you roughly 350 loaves of bread.

Seems to be that you don't even understand what the primary function of money is in the first place. Which is to measure value it's a barometer to measure value and nothing does that better than gold today or 3,000 years afo

This is the most accurate opinion on Trump in this thread.

To answer your question, Jow Forums largely grew sour on Trump the last 2 years although it's starting to seem like more MAGA retards are filling up the boards.

This is a big reason I feel like leaving, and I'm sure more intelligent people have left too but who knows to where? 8ch is one place.

>Gold qualifies as money because its inherently money
Thanks for proving my point in your first sentence idiot.

I agree with the second part of your post wholeheartedly tho. That was spot on

You wanna go to 8ch, the home of Qanon, in the hope of finding less pro maga people?

8/pol/ is absolutely less MAGA. Have you been there?

Ok... well if you read what I was saying as a trump supporter....I was saying the right is just as ignorant as the left. Specifically because gold standard is alien to them but as so called consitutIonalist it should be the first thing they should be fighting for.

I don't discount what you are saying or what that Turk guy is saying. But we would be fucked anyway with Hilary.

It's probably all fucked anyway with trump but at least he's made it fun with how insane the left goes even if we are all being fucked too on the right as well.

Who knows. Hopefully trump is a springboard he's at least awakened people. But who knows.

Regularly. Its less fanboy for sure, but definitely not anti trump

Its funny because you know Trump is in the middle, and makes both ends looks ridiculous. essentially states rights, anti war (but pro military), pro business, wants small gov, fiscally conservative, wants to end the fed, what exactly dont we like? Think he isnt going to make (((them))) pay for their sins? Keep watching

>at least he's made it fun
This is true and it's why he has some hold outs. Trump made politics fun again.

And then he filled his cabinet with Israel puppets and convienently failed to do anything for 2 years. If he was serious about the wall there's a dozen different ways to get it done without a single congressman having to give him a thumbs up.

Trump is only a meme now but hopefully you're right, the meme will inspire greater action. Until then we're in the kosher sandwich.