How is it Living without a functioning Government?

Do you faggots have to pay less taxes cuz of shutdown?

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The longer the government is shut down the more people will see how life without it is possible and will vote for less taxation, so yes in a long run.

it's not a waste because capitalism actually can't create enough jobs so the government has to create busywork for alot of the population to keep them from setting things on fire.

Currently, no, which is bullshit. IRS backlog will ensure we can get away with quite a bit of crypto shenanigans though.

If it stay shut down yes actually. People will understand how much bloat is in the government and how unneeded most of it is.

EU has 10% unemployment rate.
USA has 5% unemployment rate.

Guess which one has more rules, government and taxes.

I don't disagree with this opinion because it's fairly accurate and admits that most government jobs are useless and parasitic. We need to stop flooding this country with immigrants and let the population naturally deflate until it reaches homeostasis.

Ironically liberals are implicitly starting to realize this.

Do muricans only eat hamburgers for dinner? I don't get it

I agree. My southern European shithole has been between 15-20% unemployment for a decade. It has an insane amount of regulations and filing an LLC is a living hell of paperwork, very expensive and will take over a month.

People who criticize capitalism or economic freedom are completely clueless.

>I'm a pleb without any business before the government that requires permitting

and shitskins, the universal metric for a bad country

>no impact - keep it shut down
dems are getting nervous because their welfare pets are becoming indignant.

>sexico will pahy 4 da wall
>*at congress*
>can u lend a nigga 7bill plox

Fuck the government I hope it stays closed forever and all gov employees starve they are all leaches. Stay cucked OP you nigger faggot

itd be so much easier to shoot people who were rioting on site than to have to keep up such a complicated charade for their benefit

No you're wrong making your country unfriendly to business with loads of taxes and regulations is actually good for the economy. The harder it is to create jobs the higher your gdp goes. Ask op he has the numbers.

The large majority of the American diet is either red meat, usually in the form of ground beef or heavily processed food products, where 75% of the ingredients are composed of high fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated vegetable (onions) oil, and "preservatives."

states should have more rights and the federal government should do very little to our personal lives.

If you want to renegotiate trade with bordering country you better build that wall first.
If he fucks with Mexico economy now there would be x10 people crossing that border.
7billion is nothing when it comes to national security.

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This. The only people affected are gov goons and gov parasites.
If the shutdown continues there will be effectively no penalty for not filing/paying.
>In b4 IRS nigger lurking the board comes out of the woodwork to talk about how "they will catch you eventually"
Yeah, yeah, less than 2% of cases of "illegal activity" are actually caught and less than 1% are referred for criminal prosecution, and most of those cases involve identity fraud thanks to the retarded use of social security numbers for everything. The IRS and government in general is a joke and now that they are no longer funded they are even more of a joke. They are praying that people don't realize that if just 5% of regular filers stopped filing the system would be brought to its knees.

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The only difference it makes is the fact that some public service people doesn't get paid (until the shutdown ends).

this shutdown should be permanent
>tfw people think I should pay for nonessential niggers

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Kek, I just got my newest LLC accepted, 5 minute online filing + $125.

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Oh, and I have noticed absolutely no difference from the fed being shut. A few more days and they can start firing all these furloughed parasites.

No because they always give back pay to the workers. Everytime this happens they always get paid later for hours worked.

youre just jealous that us parasites have it so easy

>They will always have it easy, their won’t be a correction ;^)
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in yurope government often means just executive branch of government

Barely even noticed m8

100% unaffected. It's just proving to me that government and taxes are a fucking waste. Except military everything else is non-essential.

Lol I'm a real American. I don't pay taxes. Literally haven't even noticed a shutdown. I own land, PM's and guns. I don't give a fuck if this country burns down, I am my own country. I'd you're not worthy you're gonna get fucked in the worst possible way.

The funniest thing is there is no difference, which shows how little value government actually provides.

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Yup, this is pretty much been my experience as well. I honestly didn't even know that the federal government shutdown was going on until like a week or so in because I had just finished finals and didn't pay attention to the news. Anyways, I've still received federal grants/funding for university, law enforcement is still keeping things in check, so it's had pretty much zero effect on my life. I live in Texas though, so even if shit was hitting the fan elsewhere things would be kosher here as everyone is pretty much armed to the teeth, so people think twice before looting/being disorderly.

>I'm a retard who doesn't understand when permitting is necessary it's usually at a local level

>How is it without Public Services?
What fucking public services do I need? As long as the roads are clear and there's a police presence and mail is delivered, I'm good. This shutdown is unironically based. Based Trump is just proving how worthless government has become.

>I am a retard that thinks permits need to be issued for something that is already LAWFUL

Agreed, while there are a few departments which are very important, even then all of the work could most likely be done with around a 50% reduction in staff. However that just means that more people would go on welfare.

I looked into this, and whether you are for or against it, the economy would be better off if we just let Trump build that fucking wall, pic related. At least people would have jobs if they wanted, I mean a wall that big is going to require a good amount of labor and at least something tangible is being constructed. I don't see anyone bitching about the FDR's New Deal which resulted in the construction of dams and other improvements to our infrastructure through government funded public works programs.

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Europeans always talk shit about Americans but Americans totally dominate the Olympics every year, with Norway being a rare exception this last winter.

As a Canadian living here for 15 years, I can assure you that while there are fat dump Americans, there are extremely hard working, strong and fit Americans everywhere I've lived. The highways are jammed at 5:30am every weekday where I live which is not true in Europe where work is optional to life. My neighbors are marathon runners, and their daughter just got an athletic scholarship to Stanford for soccer.

You're living in the past Eurotrash.

Lol imagine being such a insurmountably retarded statecuck that you think this is a bad thing

>USA has 5% unemployment rate.
Check up on how unemployment rate is actually calculated. If you don't manage to score a job within a certain time, they automatically count you as not being unemployed because clearly you don't actually want a job if you didn't get one within X time.

Shutdown fedcuck here, AMA

House/Senate/Pres all agree to backpay me once we unshutdown so this is basically a long paid vacation for me.

My job is pointless and only benefits big businesses and data analytics firms, so it's a wonder to me why taxpayers are footing the bill.

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Coast Guard here. We're about to stop saving mother fuckers if we don't get paid.

In USA, the Federal Reserve is the holder of all keys. It's not a part of the country. How can that be that a private being controls the money. USA is backed by its production of goods and how many workers there are. People work for the government instead of the government working for the betterment of the people.

Crypto will not change a damn thing.

Watch how journos will suddenly rediscover the true unemployment figures after 8 years

Here an LLC will take minimum three thousand euros. Two thousand are for the company's bank account.

If you decide to go through the self employment route you're forced to pay about 300€ every month from the beginning, regardless of how much do you make, for the 'privilege' of being allowed to work for yourself.

There is no freedom in socialist shitholes.

Excuse me but it's pronounced, "Berders," thank you.

If a democrat was in office and they proposed the wall, it would be praised. Hillary wanted a wall. Obama deported immigrants that would just come back. Catch and Release failed.

Let Trump build the wall. Reason they won't is it fulfills a promise he made. It would help him get reelected.

Democrats and the left = the media = Trump is the bad guy when he's just the president. He's not their bitch.

>are the welfare offices shut down or something nigger
Section 8 housing vouchers are, the farm relief funding is held up, but everything else you could call welfare is still available.

Actually it's just fine and I wish we could ditch half the Federal employees we have permanently in exchange for slightly lower taxes.
Most "public services" are not really necessary and those that are a bit more urgent are generally state or local, not Federal. People on Federal welfare/public assistance type programs are probably having more trouble.
My biggest gripe is that they always authorize later to pay the people for that time, even though they weren't working. It's like a fucking paid vacation if you can survive the few weeks (and if you can't, you're a financial idiot anyway.)
Congress should have funded border security. The House of Representatives are being stupid about this and if I were out of a job for a while I'd blame them. Trump asked for like $5B, the shutdown is going to cost a lot more than that. Like it or not, he was elected to build a wall, and a wall is actually a good idea unless you're just morally opposed to keeping people out, in which case you (Congress) should try to repeal immigration laws, not fail to fund border security for the law we have.

This, Trump is soft red pilling everyone on the government

It's great. The longer it is shut down the more money I will donate to the Trump 2020 campaign. I hope it stays shut down.

Interstate commerce act >>>>> U.S. Federal government

I only care about forest service workers

Just because you haven't noticed it doesn't mean other people (besides welfare babies) havent

Literally nothing has changed.

The great firing will be a triumph for our republic. The wall was such a good bid to keep the shutdown going long enough for firings to happen.

I gotta work for fuckin FrEE all cuzza lame ass TRUMP? Are u fuckin fuh REAL dawg? I knows obama shutdown the gubba but that was for motherfuckin HEALTHCARE bitch not a motherfuckin WALL so now wut

today i worked 10 hours, yesterday 13, the day before 14. no breaks just a flask of coffee and hand fulls of nuts intermittently. but yeah tbf i work way harder and put way more hours in than anyone else at my job

I live in the UK and im a carpenter, ive made about £850 this week which to me is kinda of shitty for the hours ive worked

I have noticed ZERO difference in my life

the only thing that MIGHT be a problem is if tax returns don't come on time, but I heard they're taking care of that? not sure if it's true or not

if I don't get my tax return that will suck since it's about $2500 I'll get back. as for the rest of it, I don't notice any difference whatsoever

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>being a lolbertardian
>calling others retarded

Oh my.

hypothetically in a few days massive layoffs will be triggered and the IRS is already struggling as it is.

It’s a partial shutdown, meaning they keep on all the actually useful people that keep shit from going south.
If you work for the gov and aren’t still going to work, you are the chaff.

driving is lawful too, yet you need a permit as it is a privilege and not a right. get fucked moron.

The only parts of the govt shut down is all the useless bureaucracy shit.

Everything currently working at the moment is all the govt actually needs to function

dubs of truth

>Loaning the government this much money

And here I am wondering why we don’t just stay like this forever. Honestly, if they’re nonessential, then why do we need to pay them in the first place? Unironically, this would leave more money for the Democrats to fund some of the parts of their agenda where cost was the only real Republican concern.

It feels great. I owe the IRS money but since they're furloughed, there's no one to collect it! Hahahaha fuck'em.

>everybody ITT talking about "all those government parasites"
>not a single person can name what these allegedly parasitic jobs actually ARE

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>implying the us govt has ever actually functioned in its existence
military is still functioning; for now, thats all thats ever been neccessary.

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Shhh. It'll be funnier as a surprise. Three days to go!

If you hate it I love it

Welfare

it's fine, except you really see how many useless regulations and three letters exist, like the TSA. I was stunned to see "800,000 go without pay check". The government has 800,000 worker bees, on the clear text budget. Like WTF?

The size of government is way too big. The only issue for average people is when their dumb regulations can't be followed because the three letter isn't open.

Based Trump

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I hope the "shutdown" is permanent so we can finally have more responsible and smaller government.

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fine, im not a welfare nigger so the government doesn't do anything for me

Israel needs our help

most of these posts are talking about government workers, not welfare queens
even I can agree they belong in camps

how long will these worker going to set the US on fire?

>implying the government ever actually functioned in the first place.

wouldn't that just prove their point? if you don't use those services then of course you won't have much knowledge of them. the government is apparently sending hundreds of thousands of workers home and my life hasn't been affected at all so maybe we should just get rid of all those positions that are apparently worthless. less than worthless, really, because we have to pay taxes to employ them.

we don't need fucking government you tyrant cuck loving fagget

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Which kinds of workers though? What agencies do they work for? That needs to be answerable and I've seen nothing.

If nobody had told me there was a shutdown, I wouldn't have known. It affects government employees and pretty much nobody else. Imagine ctually believing what you wrote.