Should I short or long Eastern Europe?
Should I short or long Eastern Europe?
Long, its western europe that has been overrun.
Eastern is a lot more 'racist' and won't take kindly to no darkies.
Shlong
long russia short all the eastern shit countries.
everything right from poland to ukraine (including these 2 shit holes too) will belong to russia in 20 years
unironically long the ruble
russia has been in a major recession since all the sanctions from the ukraine fiasco, but they have a highly educated population and the lowest debt to gdp ratio of any country in the G20
Short everything except Brazil, China, Israel and Kenya.
Eastern Europe is a volatile asset but has solid fundamentals and always comes out ahead. Do some swing trading during the turbulent times for even better profit
it's the only part of europe left that cares about their heritage and traditions
Eastern Europe is corrupt and filled with scammers, they only eat subsidies that go right into the pockets of politicians, their skilled workers go to the west to make money, there's nothing to go long on. Maybe in a decade from now when the current generation has send enough money home.
Based, I would add Uruguay to that, and Japan if the wasn't under threat daily with earthquakes and tsunamis
short
mother russia want at home his baby children
short poland, it's in a worse shape than greece was
Long Poland, Chechia & Slovakia
West Slavs = best Slavs
>Comparing a high-unemployment shithole where nobody pays their income tax with Poland
Greeks are basically Turks. Poland will unironically overtake Germany by 2050.
> their skilled workers go to the west to make money
Their skilled workers returned to their home countries, started outsourcing companies and pay 10% flat tax rates on $250,000 income while west eurocucks are losing their jobs
Polish Superpower 2100 Poland Strong
Long
It's a lot easier to "copy" productivity, than to innovate it. If Eastern Europe made a 1:1 copy of western Europe, their GDP would triple.
In addition they are "white" so it is reasonable to suspect that their are no possible genetic impairment that helds them from achieving western-Europeans standards.
I would however try to stay out of quasi-fascist countries e.g. Poland, Hungary. Since there is some uncertainty about whether that type of government will yield the same results as liberal-democracies. (it could be better or worse, or it couldn't matter at all.. but only time will tell)
If you can guess which oligarch will remain on top in Russia you should invest there.
for example: the rate at which small businesses die increased last year 2700% thanks to the government
My experience with EE countries:
1. Estonia - top tier but already rated well, prices increased drastically, taxes are increasing and growth will be slowing down
2. Poland - economic wonder, insane year-by-year GDP growth, average people seem less based once you walk around Krakow and meet them (could be my luck). Solid contender nonetheless, growth won't be necessarily slowing down soon, skilled workers are definitely returning home, gopniks are moving to UK/Germany
3. Croatia - top tier tourist destination but all their tourist places are already full and they're shit at everything else. 50%+ youth unemployment, only thing good about the country are autobahns and less touristy places like Split and Rijeka
4. Serbia - Nicely keeping up with Bulgarian growth without getting the EU benefits, strong tech scene, very redneckish at places but if you have someone to tell you where to stay it's pretty chill. Having the best alcohol in the East probably prevents them from growing more
5. Austria - It's in your map so why not ... nobody does anything in this country and they're the richest one on the map, they deserve the term Mountain Jews more than the Swiss do, srs
6. Hungary - LONG, LONG, LONG. I wish more people spoke English there, this is my top pick
7. Bulgaria - strongest tech scene of them all, insanely nice for a digital nomad, low taxes, nice mountains and beaches, cheap cost of living and nice gated communities for a cheap yet luxurious lifestyle. If you're not in tech life is shit and things are not changing soon
go to bed George..
Odakle si ti
Yep
>That delusion
Kek, even Russia won't belong to Russia in 20 years
Proofs? Could be due to other factors
And Fukushima
Tell us more? Are you expecting a nato invasion? China could not take over Russia. Russians are tough and sufferered worse economic hardship so I doubt we would see societal collapse.
Tl;dr invest in eastern Poland
How does Czechia remain so based when it is surrounded by German cucks
LONG BRAZIL NOW
Eastern Europe is not a monolithic block. Czechia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Lithuania, Bulgaria and Russia all have dynamic industry and will be fine. Hungary/Romania/Moldova will probably stagnate, as for the rest I'm not qualified to say.
This. Most macro projections are showing 0-1% Real GDP growth for Western Europe. Some countries in Eastern Europe are closer to 5%, especially ones that dont accept migrants like Poland.
Nothing to worry about for Eastern Europe, besides Russia maybe.
I mean their internal situation is enough to cause them trouble. I don't foresee any NATO invasion. Economic hardships alone will be more difficult to endure now that the world is so much more interconnected, which makes disparities more obvious. If Russia doesn't get their shit together economically, they'll be in a very precarious state soon. Personally, I see Russia devolving into smaller republics in the next couple of decades.
They were inoculated against ideology by Soviet, just like the rest of them.
West slavs are just german cocksuckers. Might as well just long a basket of german equities.
Can you give us a swift jogdown on why you like Hungary so much?
>Russia will disintegrate into smaller republics
This is what armchair general fucking mutts actually think
Meanwhile in reality
>U.K. breaking up from EU
>Catalonia trying to leave Spain
>Ireland trying to unite with Northern Ireland
>Basque trying to leave Spain
>France internally collapsing
Meanwhile
>Russian gains 4.5 million new citizens and extra oblast in 2014
Short as in "the size of eastern european countres won't stop getting shorter"
>Ireland trying to unite with Northern Ireland
We're really not
Anglo-Irish scum detected
I guess anything is possible but Russia appears more cohesive than the west due to orthodox religion and culture plus Western Russia needs the food and resources from the East and would not give that up. I think we will see places like Ukraine federate and join the Russian economic zone.
>B-b-but what about ...
Four out of the five entities you mentioned are engaging in a democratic process to determine their future, something that is probably unimaginable to a typical Russian. And France is doing what they've always been doing.
Just because other countries have problems doesn't mean Russia doesn't. It does, and they're way bigger problems. It's a completely different geopolitical situation.
Also
>muh Crimea
>mistaking the death throes of a dying state for real strength
If anything is going to collapse it would be Europe.
>West brits
I wouldn't mind that 2bh (assuming that by Europe you mean the EU).
Unless it can somehow change its course, which I doubt. It's infested with the wrong people.
Would be nice.
Its not about countries external of Russia, its about Russia itself you idiot. Our government is the most corrupt shit on the planet and the stench of revolution is literally starting to sprout in the air. This country wont survive 20 years like that other user said.
>Four out of the five entities you mentioned are engaging in a democratic process
lmao
see everyone FUDs russia
that's why you should long the ruble
To be hones and serius for a while.
it's actually not impossible for Russia to suffer from big problems in the not so distant future:
Russia is very much dependant on natural resources,of which oil has been down at incredible lows for a while and with possible discoveries of gas in Israel and the europe-ajerbagian pipe (which if built may completly bypass Russia) there could be a risk of it losing the resource grip on the west and a lot of its economy (just check how big and how much of the russian economy the energy sector is),add that with an unstable south (chechen wars Russians loved that didn't they?),a fuckton of corruption with many overly powerful oligarcs,and the second biggest party being the communist party (a lot of communist nostalgia) and you have a big problems milkshake.
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