The discussion ended with a vote on what's next for cryptocurrencies. Asked whether "the whole thing is totally overhyped and quite dangerous," only one member of the audience raised a hand.
That person? Gottfried Leibbrandt, CEO of the global international payments system Swift.
So the person who is most threatened by crypto thinks it's over hyped
Jayden Parker
chainlink isnt a crypto you fucking brainlet.
Samuel Collins
He is correct unless used in an appropriate manner, ie Smartcontracts via Chainlink and Etherium.
Brayden Perez
Dumb
Bentley Young
the entire thing is run on a cryptocurrency
Hudson Jackson
Is this necessarily bad for Chainlink? If he feels threatened by crypto he'll just be more driven to make Swift and Chainlink succeed so that it works out in his favor?
Lucas White
Good thing LINK is blockchain middleware and not a currency
Owen Nguyen
You sound like you just googled bitcoin and read some boomer's boomers understanding of it
Liam Nguyen
SWIFT has already given LINK the stamp of approval by being at SIBOS. Also what about the PSD2 that's suppose to happen this year? This is FUD.
Wyatt Taylor
>Trusting CNN You're not going to make it nigger.
Camden Campbell
Priced in.
Cameron Green
im legit not trying to fud. ive been holding my linkys tight for a while and will continue to do so. but the CEO of link's biggest partner just came out an acknowledged that he thinks crypto is horseshit, essentially
Carson Perez
Cryptocurrencies as a currency are pure garbage
He did not say "Blockchain as a technology is obsolete"
Jonathan Turner
THESE ARE HIS MOST POWERFUL NUMBERS
Brody Reyes
The SWIFT CEO is a stupid suit who has no clue
Hudson Rodriguez
link is run on ethereum which is a blockchain, not a cryptocurrency.
you're conflating ethereum with ether
Colton Moore
It's a commodity
Tyler Miller
I can't believe I'm replying to this... But yes... Chainlink is not in this category at all...
Colton Torres
node operators are paid with the link token for the retrieval of data from off-chain data feeds, formatting of data into blockchain readable formats, off-chain computation, and uptime guarantees
Eli Gonzalez
hopefully by 2022 or 2023 people will remember this (as it is now the second time it has happened). CRYPTO OBSOLETES BANKS AND GOVERNMENTS. they are only pretending to like it so they can dilute it with things like ripple. As soon as it's not a threat they will dump it. it's nothing to them. to actually fight crypto with money their only option would be to capitalize it first. they are hoping that the soft brained morons who listen to their opinions at face value will panic so they don't have to actually take that route. they are going to lose though, and it's hilarious. don't forget moments like this though when we win.
Ryan Sullivan
Always do the opposite of what Jews say
Christian Thomas
Imagine...a banker fudding crypto "currency". Link is not a currency, brainlet. It's a utility token.
Isaac Morgan
Jesus christ can you biz niggers even read?
"Rogoff, who is known for his work on financial bubbles, said the chance of cryptocurrencies taking over traditional money is "zero." But he acknowledged that he can see why bitcoin seems like a good solution for countries like Venezuela that are struggling with hyperinflation. The discussion ended with a vote on what's next for cryptocurrencies. Asked whether "the whole thing is totally overhyped and quite dangerous," only one member of the audience raised a hand. That person? Gottfried Leibbrandt, CEO of the global international payments system Swift."
the wording of this article is retarded, and can cause false interpretations. It basically ended at a cliff hanger.
Aaron Perez
based and redpilled
Dylan Nelson
You better hope to fuck it is or we will all end up in prison for promoting an illeigal security.
Eli Watson
Imagine being cucked by the digital currency meme. Damn it feels good to be a linksta’
Bentley Wilson
LMFAO GOOD THING LINK ISNT A CRYPTOCURRENCY. LINK IS A MIDDLEWARE SOFTWARE YOU FUCKING RETARD. NICE FUD RIGHT BEFORE TOM GONSER ANNOUNCES HE GOT SERGEY PREGNANT.
Kek hates CNN. All they do is try to freak people out all day. Maybe Gottfried said in the interview "but there is one silver lining in the crypto market - chainlink. It will make crypto useful and safe one thousand end of year my stinky friends" but CNN hates positivity
Ryan Stewart
>that person... ?
Is this some bad einstein joke? anyway you need to be retarded to be holding link today, buy when it dips you morons
how is link not a currency when node operators are literally going to be paid in it
Ethan Price
Is the check you get from your work currency? No, you have to exchange it to get currency. link is an incentive token, you obtain it in interest for exchanging it for cryptocurrency or fiat currency.
Jayden Robinson
Why can’t anyone here accept the fact that they may not be right about smart contracts and cryptocurrencies? It isn’t exactly a budding industry at this point. If anyone knew the type of projects that are actually being worked on, they’d be extraordinarily underwhelmed and unexcited.
Jace Reed
you have an extremely poor understanding of blockchain and smart contracts and thus chainlink. one of the first "oh shit" moments you should have had ifyou understood blockchain and smart contracts is the huge amount of jobs that are going to get lost in the next ten years do to automation. And if you havent noticed that automation is taking over everything then idk what to tell ya bud...
Parker Rodriguez
a check itself is just a piece of paper and not a medium of exchange with value. Link on the other hand is traded on like 50 cryptocurrency exchanges around the world and has a value. It’s a lot closer to being a currency than not
Zachary Jackson
It CANT be a budding industry until the oracle problem is solved. That literally needs to happen first. That is the bottle neck right now, or one of them at least.
Alexander Martin
>says a check isnt a medium of value I guess this check my work gave me is completely useless and has no value according to you.
Carson Cruz
>he didnt read the MIT article that said chainlink solved the oracle problem SO MANY NEWFAGS WTF
Alexander Cox
I’m extraordinarily underwhelmed by your lack of vision and weakness in the face of bearish market conditions, sir
Tyler Parker
I'm not sure if I'm unironically >wtf I love crypto now
Aiden Harris
the actual piece of paper you dumb mong. keep your checks stacked under your bed without cashing them and see what happens. you won’t have any money. if you get paid link on the other hand, you are receiving money. Understand retard? Not sure how much dumber I can break it down
Jackson Miller
lol ok, show me where mainnet is released. that is what we are waiting on you dumb cunt
Brandon Foster
I’ve had all of the “realizations.” It’s all fucking nonsense though because none of that has happened. I even have friends that develop blockchain projects. It just speeds up some processes and doesn’t really cut out tons of jobs. You’re just repeating a bunch of shit that was told to you. I understand this shit as much as you do or anyone else.
That’s only if you believe in the decentralization meme. If smart contracts were really valuable and useful today, there would be tons of iterations that just use trusted oracles who are paid and kept in check by contracts. But that isn’t widespread as people imply it should be.
Even listen to sergey and see all of the mentions of “we don’t think it can be used for anything...it’s more for specific instances.”
I really do think it is way overhyped here and my backing is the reality of how slow it is being adopted. It would be very easy to have trusted oracles and then just replace them with ChainLink if people see it necessary...but they don’t. Everyone is just hoping the oracle problem’s solution is what everything is contingent on.
Daniel Perry
t. Paul Krugman in the 90s.
Justin Johnson
oh totally understand that link doesnt have an expiration date. Im just having a had time understanding why you think a check has no medium of value when the defintion of a check is just that. Fiat money is completely useless too if you keep it under your bed forever. Youre being too technical. Youre completely welcome to check the pivital tracker
Easton Russell
Essentially you’re admitting that ChainLink is a useless means of value transfer like checks have become...? Because people could save the step of cashing the check or converting the Link to a useable currency...?
Jack Ross
Exactly this. Wtf did gottfried say after raising his hand?
Luis Sanchez
Not an argument
Lucas Lopez
I'm not convinced that adoption really should be happening at the breakneck speed you seem to be implying. This stuff is really new and untested. Existing oracles are a security risk, why should they attract high value jobs? Why should companies take the risk when any CTO or tech person could see oracles as being the point of failure that they are? Decentralization makes crypto work, it honestly makes sense, I don't see it as just being a "meme".
I'd be interested to see the context of Sergey saying that, I don't recall hearing that specifically. I could have missed it, we have hours and hours of him giving presentations at this point.
But another thing, we have seen smart contracts be used, they are what propelled the ICO bubble. These things do have utility.
Andrew Wilson
the pivotal tracker that shows aggregation still being worked on? that one? I don't see how you can consider the oracle problem as being solved if they don't have their decentralized network up and running, that is my point.
Josiah Clark
its all speculatie yeah just like every other tech was. bring a better point to the table next time.
Luke Cox
go back to plebbit
Jackson Fisher
if you had an understanding of tasks, you would be able to determine that mainnet is soon. you do inderstand that the link team shows work instead of a roadmap right? you do realize not a single person on the link team is going to cater to a small time retail investor? You wanna know the exact date of mainnet? Well why dont you actually get that IQ up and accomplish something where the team would let you know? Kinda like linkpool, they know because they built something for it, they need to know, but you on the other hand no one cares about at all so just keeping waiting and making low IQ posts on Jow Forums
Tyler Moore
Listen to his most recent podcast where he says it. A company like Microsoft or Amazon clearly have the reputation to act as oracles and could develop legal schematics for how they should be held responsible for supplying this data.
If this were so valuable, someone would have done that by now. They would be making tons of money feeding trusted data into smart contracts and companies would eat up the cost savings. Then if ChainLink could offer a trustless solution, companies that desire that could just plug their contracts into those new oracles.
I dunno, I’m just being realistic and was really hoping I was holding a moon ticket, but after like 14 months and more and more reality coming to surface, this really just seems like an obscure tech start up trying to solve a for a niche space.
Luis Phillips
How does this keep happening
Brody Richardson
>obscure >niche What do these words mean? Are you trying to confused me?
Charles Rodriguez
Also, smart contracts didn’t propel the ICO bubble: a bunch of frenzied hype that greatly exaggerated the importance and revolutionary utility of crypto shit tokens did
David Russell
the ONLY POINT i have made is that the oracle problem remains unsolved as long as their network is incomplete. Is their network complete? NO. fuck off with all that other shit man, that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. obviously the team doesn't care about a retail investor. obviously they don't have a roadmap. i never said i wanted the date of the mainnet. you are a dumb faggot with reading comprehension issues. I'm not even a link bear. I'm holding almost a 6 figure stack and am more than happy to wait until the oracle problem is solved.
fair enough, i should have phrased that better. they allowed icos to function I guess is what I meant.
>Listen to his most recent podcast where he says it. figures, that's the one thing i haven't listened to I was busy that day and have been putting it off sense then. i'll check it out
Isaac Thompson
You need to stop crying pajeet no one wants to read your sob story.
its really insane how low IQ a person can get. dont be like this guy
Jaxon Lewis
link is a scam you fucking idiot
David Mitchell
If anything it will give power to fiat and banking so they will push for it. What they don't want is a competing source of value people will actually exchange for goods and services avoiding banking in the process.
Jose Scott
Listen bub, I don't tell you how to shit on a street ok?
Nicholas Ward
Everything is a scam. Even your entire life.
Jackson Smith
There’s an important point you’re ignoring when you claim a trusted source could act as the oracle. No matter how trusted the source, no matter how reliable the data, this method would negate the reason to use a blockchain. There is only a valid reason to do something on a blockchain if you have the assurance that no central entity is controlling how the contracts execute. Whether or not there are valid use cases for operating within a decentralized trust environment is a different debate, also worth having. But once you determine that decentralized trust is important and you will use a system that operates within that assumption, you have to do it end to end. The blockchain is as good as worthless, from that context, if you have a central entity calling the shots.
So maybe you’re right the decentralization is a meme. But you can’t claim there would be more use of trusted oracles if this were really important to people. Trusted oracles are for testing, they cannot and will never be a functioning stand in for decentralized oracles
Liam Miller
its a utility for a crypto. same thing imbecile
Brandon Miller
Shilling crypto must be the "you pissed someone off" post for the NSA faggots looking to fuck liquidity out of the economy.
Joseph Edwards
Based, redpilled and checked. Kek will kill every NOLinker after he's done with OP's asshole
Good thing he's not CEO for much longer. Seems about the time mainnet will be up and running too. Hmmm.
Cameron Davis
he doesn't consider chainlink a cryptocurrency, but a utility token / service commodity. he's thinking about shit like bitcoin and groestlecoin.
Luke Powell
>he doesn't consider chainlink a cryptocurrency, but a utility token / service commodity source? For most non-tech people, cryptocurrency and utility token is interchangeable.
Justin Morales
>There was a line to get into last year's big panel debate on cryptocurrencies; there were plenty of empty seats on Wednesday.
so the global "elite" got pump and dumped on too, fascinating. no wonder they're fudding it now, some of them got JUST'ed too.
Brody Ross
THIS. I’m sure horse breeders thought cars were overhyped and dangerous!
Mason Reyes
Anyone want to speculate on the timing of Leibbrandt's departure announcement with that of Blythe Masters? How much of a long shot would that be?
Connor Diaz
Kek
Matthew Collins
do you guys really think this suit understands the difference between a cryptocurrency and a utility token and made a choice here to voice his opinion just against cryptocurrencies? while still supporting utility tokens/link? holy kek. he thinks it's all bullshit you fucking retards
Jack Sanchez
It is an argument, you just need to accept it as valid.
An entire thread of retards who didn't even read the article to find out that this post was yet another trash attempt at fud. Keep up the good work biz - real normie tier shit here.
Jordan Powell
the CEO of link's biggest partner basically said crypto is bullshit. how is that FUD. also, i own link
Kevin Murphy
So he put his hand up then to say that "the next thing for cryptocurrencies" is "whether the whole thing is overhyped and dangerous?"
Oh and then the article closes with a "AND THAT CHILD'S NAME? ALBERT EINSTEIN" half-finish. It's like this journalist was drunk and wandered away mid article. Did he say anything? Did anyone argue with this? Surely there would have been more than one person putting their hand up to... either agree or disagree with the question, which is never clarified.
You failures really are scraping the bottom of the barrel if the best you have is ambiguously worded ESL articles.
Ethan Myers
is English your first language Rajeesh? jesus christ your post is a garbled mess
the article was very clear. in Davos, they polled the audience: who thinks crypto is "totally overhyped and quite dangerous"? the CEO of Swift raised his hand.
i agree there was no debate afterward, but jesus christ, how much more straightforward does the question have to be.