/smg/ - Survival Market General

some days you get the algo
some days the algo gets you

>I'm new to the stock market, what stocks should I buy?
Before you buy anything, stop making the general with trips, make a brokerage account and read investopedia articles and/or the books in the OP list. If you don't have a broker, you can't buy stocks and if you blindly buy things without understanding how the stock market works or doing any research on the individual stocks you're buying, you will lose money and it will be entirely your fault.

List of popular brokers:
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List of basic stock market terminology for newfags:
pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ (embed)

Real-time market news:
thefly.com/index.php

Educational sites:
investopedia.com/
khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

Free in depth technical analysis charts:
tradingview.com

Premarket Data:
pastebin.com/y9PRQLR3 (embed)

Earnings Report Calendars:
calendar.google.com/calendar/[email protected]
biz.yahoo.com/research/earncal/today.html
earningswhispers.com/calendar

Pump and Dump Advertising:
stocktwits.com

Boomer Investing 101
bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started (RIP John)

Suggested books:
pastebin.com/jgA5zTuC (embed)

tripfag complaintion station:

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FIRST FOR HOURLY REMINDER THAT MKC IS GOING TO SMASH EARNINGS TOMORROW AND THAT OTHER SPICEKEK ACCUMULATING BGS IS A KEK IN DENIAL

JUST BUY BACK IN BRO AND REPENT

TQQQ if u want to get rich melvins.

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JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP

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What did you do retard

options

HATER
BGS TO OUTPERFORM

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You're all caught up!

>some days you get the algo
>some days the algo gets you

First you take a drink, then the drink takes a drink, then the drink takes you.

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x_x explain what? thats basically it
can keep up this pace over 10 years?

dunno... probably not 10 years straight. Every real daytrader me know takes ALOT of vacations
the hardest part of daytrading keeping self high functioning

So this austrianfag I talk to is adamant that there's going to be this massive dump in the next year or so, worse than 2007-2008.

Is he right, and if so, how can I short the market long term?

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you trying to fool them? I know everything about you user.

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kekies

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He's wrong. We already hit the bottom.

no you cant predict that long market. things change weekly even daily basis

Hey kid.... BST is better...

so i randomly started trading options on robinhood and every fucking time i buy into one it plunges 30% within the next couple of hours before going to zero in the next day or two

what am I doing wrong

desu am kinda trying fool self
can see the L side of p/l slowly creep up on me

the 100% beating spy strat used for have no working well anymore, me adapting doing new strategies, looking for openings to keep a good edge but it very hard

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Don't buy the ones that expire so soon. You want to have the chance to sell when it's rising very quickly.

>what am I doing wrong
buying options

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i think this could be the problem, thank you

Buying shit too close to expiration date
try to look into spreads, your loses won't be as hilariously bad when you're wrong

sucking dick is much less effort and requires the same level of intellect as day trading.

I discovered the 100% strategy 2 months ago. Everything you have ever thought, is Defunct now. You were nothing without my bias, and now you have the audacity to Lie in front of my face
Youre going to suffer as I suffered year of the dog

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Buffet make it by buying the dip; when the company he invested in was in the shit circling the drain. He then gave the company a shit pot full of money with strings attached. Company was in to deep to turn it down. So over the long term company turned around and buffet made out like a bandit thanks to stock and those strings I mentioned. That's the real key; buying the dip when the stock is in the shit when you know the company can turn itself around. The other way is when a company is just starting out and you know the product will take off or the chance company will be bought is high. When the market shit itself in 2008 and after the dot-com fad that was a perfect time to get in. If you got in then, you'd be a rich fuck now.

yeah but me can make 10 penises in 5 mins daytrading
also dont have to deal with creeps

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>You're all caught up!

Thanks Robinfeels!

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Fair trade I suppose. But I still say you should go for a longer term strategy unless you're planning on dying at the end of the year. Most of the price movements on that level are pretty much a random walk.

>so i randomly started trading options

Now. See. This statement here is the root of the problemo.

Whats the opinion on weed stocks? Is this the beginning or the end of the bubble. I see CRON and TLRY have taken off in the last year.

ha, you will learn for regretting trifling with me
as all me adversaries have

me will make your golden bull run me strength this year, as am nearly 99% sure 232 was the forever bottom

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Yes, although not for the reasons they probably think. It'll probably start off not quite as bad but it will last much longer due to political gridlock and impotent monetary policy.

It's much easier to predict the market on longer time scales relative to shorter ones. It's pretty well established that the business cycle occurs on the order of about a decade.

it's not a competition, rkg
everyone here can make profits as long as everyone makes the right calls

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>He doesn't work for Renaissance Technologies

NEVER GONNA MAKE IT user.

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Look at amazon; if you bought it way back when it was only $5 per share you'd be a rich fucker right now no question, esp if you sold at the top when it was at 2k a share. But it took 20+ yrs to get to that. So say you were 20 at amazon ipo launch, you'd be 45 now with all that money just sitting there. You could tell your boss to suck it and walk out.

Yepper. It takes conviction to be a successful Buffett hodler too. I never had the ability to have that much faith in a company. My whole strategy is predicated on the idea that any company no matter how large can go bust tomorrow and not ever recover.

>as am nearly 99% sure 232 was the forever bottom
lol

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It's going to dump, but the central banks are going to be much looser with the quantative easing this time. Buy the dip and ride into the sunset.

meant as a reply to also

>actually being perma-anything

I'm a permabull until GALT sells, then I'm neutral long term

They'll have no choice but to be looser and still probably won't be very effective. Easy monetary policy and debt are quickly loosing their effectiveness as stimulus. Eventually the harsh logic of capitalist instability will reimpose itself like never before.

Right, but then after 20 years how do you decide that now, after all that time, is the moment for selling? Very tricky business. Especially so if you're of the opinion, as many Buffett memers are, that TA is a load of bunk. This is for growth strategy mind you. I am well aware of the 'never sell collect dividends forever' school of long hodl.

It's like insulin resistance.

Invest in alternate units of account.

>pretty much a random walk.
some days kek yes
but not today
today were very easy for spotting where the liquidity, and where the distribution was happening hence very easy for trading

me have NEVER A ONCE made long call right, but can go for days making perfect short (10 sec, 2 min) call

yes and no
in general yes, everyone can get their beaks wet

but in today daytrading, was so perfectly absorbing liquidity at right time / place, am sure was screwing /someone/ over

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medallion returns are mediocre

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Its a V bottom Scumbag. 3100 end of year

Yeah sure thatll be a cold day in hell

I don't know if it'll cause a change in the monetary system, but commodities do have real value anyway so they're not a bad buy. Also, buying bonds at the end of a cycle will also work well, especially a mix of inflation protected and regular ones.

Shoestring TA won't save you from a recession.

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>Jardine Matheson - the $45 billion market cap multinational enterprise with a portfolio of businesses
focused on the Asia-Pacific region - is now down 9% after plunging as much as 83%, the most in data going back to 1990.

>Three traders said the price action suggested a fat finger...but the step down function of the bid-offer suggests this was algos run wild...

>SGX didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment

>Jardine Matheson Holdings activities include financial services, supermarkets, consumer marketing, engineering and construction, automobile trading, insurance broking, property investment, and hotels.

>Notably, it was just last week that a series of Chinese property developer stocks crashed 80-90% instantly. Are the Asian stock exchanges running of liquidity fumes?

zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-23/45-billion-asian-conglomerate-loses-83-market-cap-another-exchange-glitch

So, um, WTF is going on in China?

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>it's another "China propped their own economy up and it's finally showing" episode

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>So, um, WTF is going on in China?

just natural growth pains you cant have steadily 10% rising gdp 20 years

>*ahem*
If China's economy goes boom, then I'm only commending Trump's MAGA efforts.

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What are futures doing?

politically, fuck china and mexico
as someone with money in the market, i want the shitshow to end

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>*ahem*
Circuit breakers this week

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It'll bring the US down with it, the result would be a global recession.

good.

Me to; I want the shutdown to end. There are IPO's that are waiting to be launched. The FDA has drugs to rubber stamp. Profits are being lost each day this shutdown drags on. There are poor FED workers who need to be paid.

Don’t look, it’s easier that way

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it would set a bad precedent to just give into Trump's demands, unfortunately. Whether you agree with the wall or not, for future stability it's important to make sure this is an ineffective tactic on his part

>orange juice is red

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I wouldn't be surprised if this permanently damages the capabilities of the federal bureaucracy. the primary way it attracts talent that would otherwise go to private industry is through it's status as the most secure employer in the country. With that gone, a lot of people might not even try.

good fuck china

you stupid mother fucker
They patched recessions after 2008. have fun with your Bond ETFS at mid 20 years old good lord

WHAT IS WHEAT DOING

Fugggg

You know that 1. Trump will never back down and 2. Dems are unlikely to back down.

This could easily go on for another 3 months.

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i've lost so much cash, but i keep going.

Nah. Notice all these retards are just sitting around through the shutdown. They will wait it out years if they could. Because they can't fucking do any better in the private sector. In fact they would be doing so much worse financially they would all probably just collect unemployment. The government is full of do nothing women and minority charity cases.

I favor anything that damages the federal govrernments reputation. They deserve it.

god damn. my subtle hate for the world wishes for this chaos. Only thing better would be infinite wealth

I just want Trump to do something REEEEEE.

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with FDA progress shutting down in late Feb/early March, I imagine big pharma will try to intervene. They may not have a big impact on Trump, but they'll have an effect on either the dems or the repubs or Trump's inner circle.

One theory I have heard is that Chinese billionaires are pumping certain stocks just for the sake of obfuscating their money, then ‘withdrawing’ that money on the Hong Kong exchange by mass selling. They then send this money out of Hong Kong to the US where they buy the market up further. The reason Hong Kong acts as a middle man is because of some communist laws in Ch*na forbidding certain transfers of cash in certain ways. This way it’s discrete; same reason why housing prices have ballooned in places like Vancouver too. Keep this in mind since last week the commies pumped their markets by the tune of 1 trillion gook bucks (and US markets surged). Obviously the smart ones know where this is going to end up so they flee with the capital elsewhere.

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this. Anyone who deals with government employees often knows that they are all minorities and women who hate their job and hate working at all.

>They patched recessions after 2008.
You know I used to work in financial regulation, right? There's good reasons no one in that business believes we're reached the end of economic instability. They can see the risks with their own two eyes.

That simply isn't true, I know a lot of these people personally. They're intelligent and hard working and those at high levels have consulting jobs waiting for them on the way out.

Lol they can't do shit. Nobody will give the other side the opportunity to label them as big pharmacy goons in such a high profile situation no matter how much lobying is at stake.

Zerohedge is weird. They post really interesting data and break down market news in a way that's easy to read, but the quality of writing is terrible. Tons of grammar and spelling mistakes, duplicate sentences, and a Peter Schiff-esque doomsday spin on almost every topic. Wheat and chaff, I suppose.

it's the boomer kgb counterintel zone.

I’ve been reading zerohedge since it’s inception, you just got to view it as quasi entertainment

thats funny I didnt know Financial Regulators can claim to be an expert on the sp500 because you dont seem to know anything about it. Do you even know about the Recessions where the sp500 went up? Your opinion on the economy is so fucking useless

And where did you hear that?
Everyone and their mother knows that if they read NYT, WT, Times, CNN, BBC, The Economist and all that dribble.
The 'new' laws-in-place stop that in its threads.
Europe and North America also have started auditing these Chink 'billionaire' assets, causing them to pack up and move house.

China?
Just look at the following dates
2007
2016
2018
Their stock market had already died a long time ago.

The economy has qualitatively changed many times, and our current paradigm while very different from the social democratic period, has not changed that much since the 90s. Dodd Frank helped reinforce large banks from instability, allowing them to whether larger crashes without a bailout, but not much else. In fact, it's emphasis on big banks largely pushed many risky activities into shadier, less regulated portions of the economy.

A recession today would not cause the S & P 500 to go up, and it doesn't take a genius to realize that. The whole bear market we just went through was founded upon recession fears.

Stop shilling LCI
There is nothing to gain from trying to pump and dump it

>mfw the state collapses

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We're in a fucking Interest rate mechanic environment now. Once the real yield curve inverts the market moons because of expectations for the fed to adjust policy

This is NOT the time to sell, this is the time to buy and leave bonds behind. Thats my SENSHADO

But what if we're in a new paradigm? Has that concept been explored?

>Once the real yield curve inverts the market moons because of expectations for the fed to adjust policy
>this is what bulls actually believe
Do I need to break out the chart again?

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I know about your dumb chart. It just shows that you havent studied the SPX and how it reacts for 1 year after inversion

Youre claiming recession this year when theres no inversion? This would go against your own chart for you to be in bonds now

Bonds inverted from the 1 year level to 7 years. That's good enough for me. Not to mention political risks like a prolonged shut down or trade war could potentially move time tables up significantly. I'm not taking any chances. If you want to get anally raped by the next crash, have at it.

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

divbro is drunk edition

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It happens bro!

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Bullish flag completing on tsx:gene a couple weeks before it gets listen on nasdaq, price target 1.7 with 40% upside

Bonds only inverted because the hikes this year were unique. If you didnt notice, most of them uninverted

So then you should know that the market rallys to all time highs after inversion right? You dont care because youre putting your economic opinion above the real market

There are some Feds that are as you describe but they are the white, male, top 10%'ers keeping everything together. For every 1 of them you got 9 Stacies or DeShawns making 90k with excellent benefits and a full pension to surf facebook and fill quotas.

Are we posting ultra-JUSTings? I don't know the story behind this one, but goddamn.

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wow, sorry lad

It's not mine. Someone posted it here on smg a while back, and I forgot the story.