20 dollars an hour becomes roughly 13.5 after taxes

JUST

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>money you earn is taxed
>taxed on product purchased
>the money received from seller of product is taxed

This whole thing is a fucking scam.

Your whole life is a scam.

and after mandatory living expenses becomes 0/hr if not -10/hr

Tax pays for cops who kill people who try to break in your house and kill you.

Yep it’s a scam

Cops haven’t done one damn thing in my life but provide entertainment when they kill niggers

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average rent is $800 a month
car insurance $100 a month
gas $100 a month
food $200 a month
electric bill $60 a month

wage $10 an hour

literally why is this allowed?

The cost of paying cops vastly outweighs the cost of what niggers could steal, it IS a scam.

You can solve part of it by not having a car. Cars are a fucking scam, especially in the US, as we are basically forced to own one with no other choice (except city dwellers).

cops are the reason you can't just shoot the niggers. only retards believe they are for your protection. their real job is to protect the niggers.

>tfw 13€/h and 9,62€/h after tax + social security

I argue it's better to just stay in the lower income bracket and try to get some form of welfare. Food stamps is the most common by far. Then just flip shit on Craigslist (EZ as fuck especially if you're just looking for small margins). You now have the wage of the average office cuck with student debt while you work part time as a gas station clerk.

>your taxes go to Israel/ military to fight people who make no difference in your life and single moms/niggers
>roads are still completely fucked and take a decade to add a lane to highways resulting in you sitting in traffic for 2 hours of your “weekly grind”
>drinking water is filled with chemicals that are literal poison
>mega corporations operate monopolies and have 0 consequences for actions like slave labor, money laundering, inside trading etc.
>meanwhile a joint can ruin your career
Heh I-its not that bad! I-I can still watch my favorite sports ball team and sip a cold one day with the boys and hope Stacy will let me marry her so I can become her provider/workhorse!

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Holy shit

They don't think it be like it is, but it do.

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Taxes are how we pay for the roads and schools and hospitals, Cuckley
You like those things dont you?
Therefore you see what did you learn today? That's right taxes are good. Taxations isnt theft at all

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We're living in the best time, bud.

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>swat team accidentally arrives at the wrong house
>breaks down door, kills dog
>sends invoice for ammunition
‘Murica

>3 trillion a year for roads, schools and hospitals

Imagine being this cucked..

This is why you support tax on high earners. But no you're probably a lolbertarian.

I have no problem paying taxes for what you mentioned, however when my taxes go to pay some child fucking politician’s 7 figure salary who lobbies for his friends in shekelburg industries who both plan on bringing in 3rd world for cheap labor and for a military who hasn’t done anything to protect me in my lifetime yea I get a little fed up when 35% of my paycheck goes to them.
How do more people not see this and then look at the housing costs over the past 30 years and go hmmmmm? Something doesn’t add up?

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>we'll march to DC and demand 2nd amendment be repealed!

>also corporations should pay higher corporate tax rate even though the salaries they pay to employees are taxed income what if they invest in infrastructure then we only get sales tax or property tax
PAY YOUR FAIR SHARE CORPORASHUNS

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It drives me mad that this is literally the response of everyone around me.

the ironic thing is the us is also fighting for saudi arabia and by that reinforcing the petrodollar, trumps reaction about Jamal Khashoggi didnt come from nowhere and as he said "business is more important"

Some people thing profit is theft yet taxation isn't.
Really activates your almonds.

We really are dumb goyim.

The US’s geopolitical clout hinges on the Saudis maintening the petrodollar status quo. Without a stranglehold on oil, the standard of living in the US would approach levels unamiginable by the populace. Like Africa tier living standards. Not saying it’s a good thing, but it do.

>however when my taxes go to pay some child fucking politician’s 7 figure salary who
Do you feel like your blatherings make sense? Just wondering. If you dont like some dude then dont vote for him.

Better yet watch the world burn and run for Senate like that completely retarded AOC cunt.

the thing is the part cooperations dont pay either gets financed with debt or a tax raise at (sales tax, petrol tax, wage tax or property tax) which are taxes mostly paid by the middle class

The same cops who arrest you if you try to quit your job without giving a two-week notice.

Fucking scam. You're the goodest goy of them all.

This. Communists are literally the dumbest meme ideology group.

i highly doubt it would be on Africa levels but the us would take a hard hit

If they're providing thousands of jobs then good?

Hell, there's even a few places in America that aren't all that far off from a 3rd world country. The Petrodollar is almost dead, moves like provoking regime change in Venezuela and strangling Iran economically are buying limited time. The government's only real way forward is to go all in on the reneweable energy industry while they still have military and economic supremacy, which is rapidly fading. It's unfortunate too because a collapse of United States as the world leader would probably lead to a modern Dark Age.

Finally someone that understands his shit, all the retards asking to cut money from the military to fund healthcare don't understand that without the military the US dollar ain't worth shit, and the US economy would crash so badly it would make the USSR look like it had a small recession.

cops dissuade people from comitting crime, which is the only reason there isn't even more crime and a fag like you is still breathing

well, lower wage taxes paired with higher cooperation taxes would make the already existing jobs cheaper - companies could employ more for the same or everyone earns more and can 'consume' more

either way people who gain the most income trough work would benefit most but people who own stocks would be hit most

Settle down Jamal

thanks for the money waggie

>taxes are how we pay for the roads and schools and hospitals
i want to kill these fucking jews every time they say this
GRACE COMMISSION
FEDERAL RESERVE
DEBT
WHAT IS IT
there is a special place in hell for you that intentionally lead others astray

it is hard to remain the worlds single superpower especially if your population is about ~5% and others are catching up

thats also part of the reason why the eu wants to keep the iran deal going and negotiating deals with iran to trade oil for € but no major oil company has the guts to do this since us sanction are devastating if you trade with iran

>loosing access to every countries oil field just for iran

And debt covenants often depend on stock prices. It could be a great way to destroy huge corporations. It would be a good idea if this was /antibiz/ otherwise it is a complete and utter pure shit idea right?
And everyone knows the very lowest wage jobs are being automated or moved overseas and that is an unstoppable trend. Horrible shit ideas could accelerate that though but I dont think that's a goal

this means a lot coming from a capitalist who thinks ideas are property.

Yeah $10/hour isn't a car wage unless you live in it too

Why did life have to be this way? Slaving away so one day when your dick doesn't work and you lose your youthful drive you can retire. Then what? Live in a boomer house and have a boomer retirement? Fuck that. The only saving grace is having children, but then you gotta worry that they don't turn into fodder for shlomo's machine.

Libertarians/Ancaps/Austrians don't believe in intellectual property

They don't believe in intellect in the first place

at least they have that much going for them i guess. you have to admit the notion of "idea ownership" is pretty fucking dystopian.

i only brought this up because this is a wagecuck thread, yet i don't believe it would destroy companies but it would certainly reshape how they had to operate

also i am not imposing something ridiculous like a 75% tax - i think ~30% are fine but what they really have to do, is a crackdown on tax loopholes and tax heavens like Luxembourg, Ireland, Netherlands and Delaware and on those i and many others are not aware of

Yeah it is, although I'm probably biased as I think the state being the ultimate arbiter is dystopian and creepy

>what they really have to do, is a crackdown on tax loopholes and tax heavens like Luxembourg, Ireland, Netherlands and Delaware and on those i and many others are not aware of
Yes.
In Australia we had a report the Government tried to block, then hide, then quickly 'Dead cat' it.
Basically every major corporation, EVERY SINGLE ONE, and a whole bunch of even BANKS and wealthy imdividuals INCLUDING THE THEN PRIME MINISTER were
>'utilizing tax minimization strategies'

There can be no trickle down when the fucking funnel keeps getting wider.

Christ, and it's pay-to-play at those levels, meaning your average shlub cannot ever hope to start utilizing those same tricks until about retirement age, and even then that's up for discussion.

In other words, Capitalism would work if everyone played by fair rules (e.g. no tax havens) but that's not going to ever happen without force.

It's like a big amoral animal; it just does what's in it's best interest which means it can be directed to do good and useful things, or what it usually does because Economics is a Social Science and the Market literally is a human concept
>inb4 some tard uses animals, so anthropomorphising animal behavior because they literally have no other rebuttal than "It exists in da animals kingdoms too gommie, look da bird hurr da dolphin durrrr"

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>it is hard to remain the worlds single superpower especially if your population is about ~5% and others are catching up

Even more when the only thing you produce are coloured papers, and import everything that you actually need.

>also i am not imposing something ridiculous like a 75% tax - i think ~30% are fine but what they really have to do, is a crackdown on tax loopholes and tax heavens like Luxembourg, Ireland, Netherlands and Delaware and on those i and many others are not aware of

Yes please force every millionaire to hide their wealth in crypto

>There can be no trickle down
There's no such thing as trickle down

>Yeah it is, although I'm probably biased as I think the state being the ultimate arbiter is dystopian and creepy
I like the idea that IP and Patents of all kinds are only effective for 30 years. That seems fair.

But we have these monster 'and a day' ones like Disney puts out that effectively are eternal.

Yep. See pic related.

I'm a bong and if we don't leave the EU in March we're going to feel the full force of Article 13.
All because of muh intellectual property.

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>don’t vote for him
You really think your vote matters goy? Lmao the entire political system is two sides of the same shekel left and right elite will come together when it comes to decisions to control the money and resources.
>B-b-but muh trump!
I will agree that was an anomolly not many predicted but that guy has spent his entire life brushing elbows with the elite, he is a part of their circle and if you think he has the average man’s best interest at heart more often than not I think you are naive.
Sometimes I think we deserve to be slaves for the retardation and herd mentality of the masses. My belief is that we exist to improve the consciousness of our species/the universe. Being literal human cattle doesn’t fit into that view while predators sit at the top siphoning the resources while giving us scraps and designing a system meant to keep you depressed yet content. Yet again the more I learn o realize the less I know, maybe these systems are designed so only those worthy obtain freedom and enlightenment. I can’t help but shake the feeling that bad people have been pulling the strings for thousands of years though. Regardless I’m done trying to wake people up, you have the extent of human knowledge at your fingertips yet most choose to watch sportsball and worship niggers/celebrities. I just want to make the world a little less shitty for those I care about. I really need to work on caring about everyone and not just those immediate in my life.

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its not about taxing the possession of money its more about taxing the profits generated from possessing it

"rich" people are making more money by just putting it in the stock market than most make off their work

if you had 10Mio$ and made just a shitty profit of 1% you made more than double the us median wage which 44,5k$ which will be taxed around 30%, but the us corporate tax is just 21%

>we used to make shit in this country now we just put our hand in the next guys pocket

Based and Nietzsche pilled

>
>rent is $300, shared between my girlfriend so I pay $150
>no insurance, $0
>fuel, $20/ month
>food, not fat so $80-100/ month
>elec, not fat so $10/ month
>wage >$20/ hour
>taxes, $0
solution: don't be a fat cunt

> $100 a month food budget
So you live on beans and rice?

So you make 30 dollars an hour after taxes and spend 80-100 a month on food and pay 300 a month in rent? Do you eat ramen noodles for every meal and live in a cuck shed all while making 80k? Get the fuck out of here LARPer.

>no insurance
boi i hope you dont live in america
>$300 / month rent
oh ok clearly you dont

>LARPer
no but I don't make 80k either because I don't work many hours. Just chill and save.
yeah my ramen noodles are yummy and based and I have a nice but small appartment in the city. not in obesityland. 20 after 0 is still 20 not 30 but I'll assume it's a typo.

>replace your company for a dApp
>dApp only accepts crypto
>good luck taxing a dApp

You realize every technology company could be replaced with dApps in the near future right?

not only in Australia also in Europe and everywhere else

even these at the radically left are only left when it comes to social issues - democrats

there are only a few people who have some integrity left and and have sufficient knowledge about economy and one or two other fields unlike ocasio cortez or however this bitch was called

>paying taxes

top kek

hope you enjoy prison and permanent debt

> $13.50 after taxes
> $28080 per year
> $2400 a year on groceries
> $120 on sales tax for those groceries varies by state and I guessed since not all foods are taxed
> $1560 on gas for work I rounded down
> Hold on pal
> $4.68 on gas tax hehe 9/10 of a cent
> $250 on clothing for work
> $25 on sales tax, California
> $12000 for an apartment somewhere safe year round
> Remaining cash: $11720.32

More costs but ehh I dont feel like doing more math on thid right now

Taxes are the gift man gives to society.
Pay your fair share.

>Taxes are the gift man gives to society.

You spelt politicians and their crooks wrong there buddy