I..i..is gaming dead?

when new xbox and playstation arrives, prepare to see novideo get justed again, as many people delay any new pc upgrades when they buy a new console

This
upper limits get tested even in a bubble

>Implying the market pump for AMD/Nvidia the last 2 years was due to gaming
>Gamers don't buy GPU's 10-50 at a time

Holy shit the absolute state.....

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B-but how will I play quake 2 without ray tracing

You can't

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Wow. Just buy now for quick profits.

>1080ti
>good hashrate
>Nvidia stocks moon

>2080ti
>almost no improvement on hashrate
>Nvidia stocks crash

wow I wonder what's going on
who can solve this mystery
someone call sherlock fucking holmes lmfao

yeah
if one could use fp16 in the most important gpu mining algos, novideo would have sold out the turding cards immedialy

Problem would still be that those same miners would have sold off 1080s and 1080tis in even more numbers and the only card left that it makes sense for gamers to purchase new would be 2080ti, as all other performance tiers have better price/perf used (or amd) options.

IMO the biggest problems right now are:
Oversaturation
Lack of risk taking in new IPs
Lack of evolution (especially in graphical fidelity. Games from 10 years ago look very similar to todays games compared to 1990-2000 or 2000-2010)
MTX

Can't wait for ayymd to BTFO novideo in 2h 2019 in the low to mid and then high in early 2020. Then shintel to come in and BTFO novideo further in mid 2020, with ayymd 55% of desktop graphics new buys, novideo at 20% and shintel at 25%.

Then we can get some competition from there, hopefully after ayymd builds up its war chest so it can compete longer term.

Resi 2 remake
devil may cry 5
Sekiro

Good year for gamin

be apple
>release iphone's every year
>marginally upgrade them, nothing too special
>charge 20% more
>wtf why aren't they buying

be nvidia
>release graphic cards every year
>marginally upgrade them, nothing too special
>charge 20% more
>wtf why aren't they buying them

>Charge well over a thousand dollars for a GPU
>Abandon miners
>W-why arn't they buying
>Clearly the Chinese are to blame

Video games are a degenerate activity and waste of time. It's an actual PsyOp to keep millenial men and zoomers bluepilled and subdued.

>Spending $1,633.00 every weekend on hookers and cocaine when you could have spent $0.32 on electricity playing a flash platformer and having just as much fun and much less chlamydia.
Not going to make it.

>implying I waste all my money on hookers and blow
Don't get me wrong, those are fun but also degenerate and a waste of time. I am paper chasing until 2021. Nothing else matters.

both also blame the chinks

lol a fedora

IDK what MTX is, but you're spot on on everything you posted.

t. used to be in the industry

what is paper chasing?

Making money. I work 60 hours a week and spend the rest of my time doing crypto research and networking. This is all that matters. Seriously, everyone on this board needs to grow the fuck up and get on their hustle.

>He thinks he the HOUSE slave
>He's actually the house SLAVE

I will make it in the next 10 years. The stars are aligned and it's only a matter of time.

No, not yet. This is where the gaming gains will be at

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Chasing graphics is what is killing games in the first place you brainlet.
It'll mark the resurgence of content and features again ( and it's a good thing ).

If the gaming bubble pops it won't be as bad as the Atari bubble but it will heavily slow game sales for about a decade.

I thought we were beyond using GPUs as miners and only asic were worth it. tho Ive been out of the loop for better part of a year.

agreed fren

I don't game like I used to for many reasons (30 yr old boomer with family), but my 12 year old pc still runs great and all I've ever done is upgrade the GPU a few years ago and add RAM at some point. But I do have friends with lots of money to blow who have spent several thousands on one machine and monitor shit, accessories, etc. Always wondered how strong the market really is with people in my situation slowly contributing less and less.

Good mindset user. Keep it up.

No, it just became more affordable.

This plus ace combat 7 and death stranding memery.

MTX=Microtransactions

No, it won't. My prediction would be that most AAA-Publishers will vanish in the long run. Services like Steam and GoG have made them unnecessary anyways.
I only hope the gap will be filled by game studios with fair pricing systems (like ggg or digital extremes.)
The publishers I think will survive are:
Sony & Nintendo due to their consoles/exclusives.
CDPR & Rockstar Games due to the high quality of their titles.
EA - unfortunatly - due to their sports games.
The rest will either go mobile or go bust. How the mobile market will turn out, I have no idea. But to me it looks like it's on the downturn. The fad seems to already be gone in the west and I'd imagine in a few years the east will follow. Though there could be a breakthrough with AR - like pokemon go - only lasting longer than a summer.

>I thought we were beyond using GPUs as miners and only asic were worth it.
Actually, now that the price has dropped this much, then yeah, apart from places with heavily subsidized electricity.

In bitcoin it has been true for a while, but most other algos either don't have enough asics out there, or not efficient enough asics compared to GPUs, that those asics completely squeeze out the margins of GPU mining.

Indies are 1000x more likely to go bust than Triple A companies. They don't have the capital.

Zoom out

>No, it won't. My prediction would be that most AAA-Publishers will vanish in the long run.

I'm seeing this trend too. When a half baked piece of shit (albeit with great mechanics) like PUBG can fuck up Activision-Blizzard's Destiny + their new meme battle royale that just came out and provide 1000h of gameplay for $30, you got a real problem.

i have been wanting to get a new pc for a few months now. mine is like 6 years old and it is starting to show. main reason is that monster hunter world is a lag fest even on lowest settings, and even then i still played it for 60 hours.
i want to experience this glorious game fully

any tips on when to buyin?

>Indies are 1000x more likely to go bust than Triple A companies. They don't have the capital.
And they also don't have the expenses AAA Publishers do.
I'm not saying that every indie title will be successful, over 95% of them are shit anyways. But that the lions share of AAA-revenue will diversify and go to indie/niche studios/ publishers like Firaxis, Paradox Interactive, devolver Digital etc.

>crypto
>will make it

kek. Only if you're lucky and a war that benefits crypto happens, otherwise I have bad news for you

RTX is also to blame because it is literally placeholderware for when ray tracing actually gets hard-developed into games (which will take 3-5 years)

>hard-developed
You mean like in they develop certain effects to use ray tracing only and don't have an alternative traditional rasterization mode for those effects?

When it comes to picking and choosing at least, I think the news out of AMD and the console players suggest Ray tracing alternatives for certain effects will be available in many games in 2020, and developers will use it, because consoles pave the way.

I mean actually develop games to use it
>I think the news out of AMD and the console players suggest Ray tracing alternatives for certain effects will be available in many games in 2020
Didn't know that it would be happening relatively quickly already. But Nvidia had to take the hit now so that ray tracing would become reality. You can't develop games for hardware that doesn't exist.
>consoles pave the way
I'm expecting rtx cores (or amd equiv) in the next gen of consoles so you're right about that

also most games are shit reskins or unity shooters, very casual, not interesting new ideas or gameplay, and loaded with mtx/p2w content.

You're right in that Nvidia's release was premature. RTX right now is dogshit and no one wants to drop 50-70% FPS on any particular resolution for some nicer shadows and reflections.

When it comes to not developing games for hardware that doesn't exist, it's actually the case that game developers often do develop games for hardware that doesn't exist for the market, but does exist as engineering samples and does have developer kit support.

Playstation 5 development kit is already out and given to developers, and some game development studios were developing RTX solutions for their games before the launch of RTX with Nvidia's help.

We'll see if the consoles and AMD manage to make a form of ray tracing where the tradeoff actually makes sense, unlike with the tradeoff of RTX on and OFF on the RTX line right now. I'm a bit skeptical like you. I think we might see chiplets GPUs in late 2020 on entirely new architectures before we really get the Ray Tracing ball rolling, and of course, that Ray Tracing will still only be the partial form where a few aftereffects are replaced with a "lossy" and then inference "upscaled" Ray Tracing approach (which is what they refer to as "using AI in ray tracing").