i turned down a chemical engineering job at exxonmobil after i graduated this summer because i was inspired by the blockchain
for the past 6 months i have been sitting at home, learning to code. i built pic-related for about $3.5k with some of my magic internet money
i don't even know if ill get a good CS job without formal education, let alone exxonmobil tier equivalent
i don't even know if blockchain technology is important or if cryptos are all going to go to zero. the bear market is still very much in play, interest is waning
how badly did i fuck up Jow Forums? give it to me straight.
>i don't even know if ill get a good CS job without formal education, let alone exxonmobil tier equivalent you don't really need a CS degree for that; your chem eng degree is fine. That said, you have to actually be decent, and you need a great portfolio. There's no telling whether or not you can find something equivalent to the exxon job.
nobody cares about your manchild PC
Henry Anderson
>i don't even know if blockchain technology is important or if cryptos are all going to go to zero. the bear market is still very much in play, interest is waning
The only reason normies would care about crypto/blockchain is if it made them money. It's not going up anymore so no one gives a fuck. Basically you jumped into a sinking ship bro.
Juan Morris
>how badly did i fuck up Jow Forums? give it to me straight.
Well what re you trying to accomplish? What have you accomplished so far? Assembling a computer case and learning to code and building a product are two orthogonal things
Noah Bennett
Lead distributed systems engineer here.
You fucked up. A 4 year CS degree or similar is absolutely required if you want a good backend job. The only people who don't need them are either self taught and have been coding for many years, or did code academies (only qualifies you for shitty front end work).
Also, blockchain is a meme.
Jordan Hernandez
why does it look like your AiO isnt screwed down evenly
Dominic Anderson
Lmao what, a chemical engineer for a huge oil company is definitely making it and far better than most developers.
Is your goal to found a startup or some shit?
Nathaniel Wright
If good companies want to hire you and you're still a good candidate you can still get that job or other related jobs. You fucked up by not taking a real job that couldve been stable pay, you take jobs like that to fuel your other interests and hobbies dont all in on other stuff like that
Bentley Gray
> i built pic-related for about $3.5k >built you mean you watched a Linus Tech Tips video and then ordered 10 parts and clipped the wires together. What exactly does your wasted 35 hundred have to do with crypto or software? You mining on it? Programming on it? That doesn't look like an efficient setup for either of those things.
You sound like an idiot for turning up a good job. You almost certainly would have had time to build your little toy even though you were working, and you would have also been getting paid in money and experience.
Instead, you have a big hole in your resume and will have a much harder time finding a good job offer now. At least your have a shiny rgb toy, right?
Tyler Gonzalez
i have a couple of shitty projects, but im learning react right now and i will build a pretty cool block explorer with it, so that should be a nice project to have
that's kind of my only fear, i don't want to be a front end faggot my whole life. i might pursue a masters in CS just to have it on my resume.
i didn't like the thought of living in rural areas my whole life coming from living in a tier 1 city my entire life so far, and yes eventually i may want to run my own start up. also exxon didn't really convince me that big oil have their future completely mapped out
im programming on it a 1 year hole isn't a hole at all, very easy to explain away if i need to
Wyatt Phillips
i am an actual business owner and retired young boomer. i know my shit
crypto and blockchain are like 3d tv's and fidget spinners. awesome but redundant technology. I would suggest you ended you life but then i read you have a degree, so it should be ok
Owen Smith
How did you manage to land a job at Exxon? >t. chemE grad not doing chemE work
Kayden Torres
im very good at interviews and i did a year long internship elsewhere prior
Luis Robinson
honestly that seems hard to believe. crypto? sure, maybe. but distributed ledger tech being vapor seems very unlikely to me
Easton White
>urned down a chemical engineering job at exxonmobil >because i was inspired by the blockchain
Straight: You kinda cucked yourself, but you are far away from fucked. Apply for regular chem eng - positions and list your capabilities in coding, it wont be a problem for you to get hired. Even possible that Exxon might have an interest in you again.
Just never mention the stuff with the blockchain. Otherwise, you are the laughing stock of HR.
Parker James
>distributed ledger tech being vapor seems very unlikely to me
Why?
Charles Diaz
>distributed ledger tech
boomer engineers will confirm. its more than a decade old too. and there are rivals to it that put it to shame
i know banking boomers at HSBC in my country. they had to do a staff meeting about distributed ledger tech with all employees. CEO got briefed about it by specialists and it was decided to not even do the meeting.
its a meme. greater than bitcoin.i suggest you turn your back on this meme ASAP. its redundant tech
Jonathan Ross
real programmers don't use fucking RBG-lightup gayming PCs to code, they use macbooks. you're an idiot lmao
Cameron Reed
You have no idea how much you could have made from ExxonMobil lol.
Could work on your side project and make bank at the same time. Retire early and do whatever you want in blockchain. Now you justed yourself.
Josiah Long
>real programmer >macbook
pick 1
David Walker
i have a macbook pro too faggot i also play games on the pc
that's kind of funny, did that happen in nov 2018? i think i spoke to the specialist who briefed the ceo about a week before they met
ok fuck it, i will not bank on DLT/blockchain surviving, but I will continue to learn to program and try to get a tech job because it is all much more interesting to me than chem eng anyway.
Isaiah Green
Whats so bad about living in a place with no blacks, low to little crime, fresh air, and nature as far as the eye can see? Yeah its boring but a small price to pay for peace of mind I think.
Daniel Roberts
i'm related to someone who works for google and also has a side company and he and all the guys i've seen working at his company code on macbooks
Jaxon Phillips
huh. what was your interview like? was it the standard behavioral questions with situational, or was it also technical?
Jordan Morris
listen to this boomer son dont mention bitcoin or DLT- people who are high iq know what it really is- a giant meme bigger than Herbalife.
I dont know the HSBC date....but i am not from your country. different countries diff approaches. I am from EU (salem alik).
i suggest go back crying to Exxon and invent some excuse why you werent interested first time,.,,,also drop Jow Forums.
Ethan Myers
>but I will continue to learn to program Good! Everyone should be able to code a little bit.
>and try to get a tech job because it is all much more interesting to me than chem eng anyway. Well... thats also fine. But you would make bank, if you actually combine both. Developing alone is harder for you to get into and you will hit a glass ceiling, because you have a different degree.
I would stay in the sector but look for positions that would use both skillsets. Then, your options are way broader and better paid.
Christopher Mitchell
you had a chance at a real job and instead you wasted last 6 months.
Today 99% of coding is soul crushing digital brick laying. It was fun 15 years ago when you actually had to solve problems to do anything more complicated than a simple interface to a sql db. Today there's a library for almost everything. The set of problems that actually have to be solved for typical needs is finite and most are already solved.
In the next 10 years developer salaries are going to crater in the US as new generations of educated pajeets (that grew with a pc) replace them for 1/5 of the cost and development moves away from the US, just like industrial jobs did 20+ years ago.
Not everything is lost however. You still can salvage your life. Try to get the job at exxonmobil back.
Aiden Smith
i like blacks they took us on a tour of the refinery, had gave presentations on why exxon, had a networking lunch, then you get grilled for 1 hour by two engineers, i guess it was 40 mins behavioural and 20 min technical. the technical was a surprise to everyone because they said in the email that it would only be behavioural
i'll look into it, but i somewhat doubt such a job exists. engineering boomers are seriously not innovative, especially in sectors like oil, they just care about how the plant runs day to day. any innovation comes in the form of mathematical models to improve process efficiencies, which is not interesting to me. i have also worked in renewables and its not dissimilar
if tech jobs turn to shit then the world is doomed because everything else is already shit
Landon Hernandez
>if tech jobs turn to shit they are already shit, they are just well paid shit in the US (not anymore in Europe, where you get 2x as much as what a janitor makes).
Thomas Carter
also there never seems to be talk of people joining tech companies as programmers then moving up in management and focusing more on business development. is that a thing? that is what i would like to do
can one of the boomers in here confirm^
there's no time for side projects there im sure
Joshua Williams
>not anymore in Europe, where you get 2x as much as what a janitor makes proof: >Desired Skills: 5 years >experience with Java have experience with frontend technologies like Angular Js. Experience with Rest API >You have experience with software development in the open source environment glassdoor.com/Job/germany-software-developer-jobs-SRCH_IL.0,7_IN96_KO8,26.htm €75k gross, which translates to about €41.5k net. glassdoor.com/Hourly-Pay/Helpling-Cleaner-Germany-Hourly-Pay-EJI_IE974546.0,8_KO9,16_IL.17,24_IN96.htm €24k gross which translates to €16.7k net That's 2.5x difference between a janitor and a senior java developer (most developers make less). Absolutely pathetic, and the relative difference is constantly shrinking because janitors can't be outsourced online.
Landon King
oh interesting. i only hear about technical interviews for programming jobs. so how were they like? were they related to the petrochemical processes or general chemE knowledge? I'm asking because I'm applying around. also, although i would've taken the job like many other have advised, i think you did the right thing. getting lots of cash means nothing if you hate your job, hate the industry and have a low quality of life (no time, shit location, etc.). a whole lot of entry level jobs don't require a CS degree, so as long as you can prove you can code (have projects to show), i think you'll be fine. to work a hard job with lower quality of life just because that's the degree you picked is not a good way to live. so good on you, i hope you find your way.
Michael Roberts
a mix of both. some people got questions asked about chem e fundamentals but related to petrochem so, what is a distillation column, explain how it works, etc to start with, then they'll ask questions like if this goes wrong in a column what could be causing it, what does an efficiency drop here indicate, how to fix it, etc. i personally wasn't asked about distillation, i was asked about pumps and piping systems, pressure, valves, and general fluid dynamics
and thanks man, i think so too
Michael Sanchez
>i'll look into it, but i somewhat doubt such a job exists. engineering boomers are seriously not innovative Thats a shame, bringing innovation into old structures is what makes a boring job interesting. Hope you settle for a job you are happy with.
