Individualism bad, communism good

>individualism bad, communism good

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>working at McDonalds for a wage good
>collectively owning that same McDonalds and receiving a share of it's profits bad.

I like how you instantly assume everyone is as pathetic as you and has to work at McD's lmao

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>i use NPC meme in 2019
>i smart cookie!
>#woke

Well if you're a brainlet trash that works at mcdonald and who can't do anything better than that deserves it since he's genetic trash.

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>individualism = McDonald’s

To this day, it still only triggers the people it applies to. Stay mad and pathetic, you unthinking animal.

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Electrician actually. Just saying it's common, fag. Will probably switch to teaching k-12 later on though.

Ah, yes, I see you too realized that morals are just spooks.

>McDonald’s jobs gray, NPC meme gray
Sounds about right. I’ve found that the only people who critique “individualism” are the same people who have no experience being an individual and have only ever worked shitty minimum wage jobs.

When you cut through all the bullshit, communism literally boils down to dragging everyone down to the same level so no one has to feel pathetic for working shit-tier jobs. Seriously.

baseless assumptions from a brainlet, you literally have provided nothing of substance, except some worthless verbal diarrhea fitting your own narrative.

You have literally provided nothing of substance with this post. You haven’t addressed a single thing I said. Wow, I can do that to, watch.

Your entire post is worthless diarrhea fitting your own narrative.

you're pants-on-head retarded.
you only hear about the "most successful" people being "strong individualists" because the other "strong individualists" either wind up dead for driving upstream in traffic, stuck in family court because they thought wearing a condom was just a superstition, or sitting in court like Chapo.
Literal cognitive dissonance.

Never met a communist who wasn’t some worthless druggie.
Never met a successful person who just bitched about capitalism all the time (except for the people who make the “anti-capitalist” merchandise to sell to the retards who don’t see the irony in their purchase)

LA has had a leftist government for decades, if you want "peak individualism" look to Houston but then again cities themselves trend more collectivist by definition.

A collective can't exist without individuals but an individual can exist without a collective, however that individual will suffer. So while a collective is good, and an added benefit, emphasis must be placed on individual excellence for collective excellence by definition.

The modern western paradigm is one that trends towards decay and dysgenics. The incapable, poor, stupid, and non contributors are rewarded with an overly generous welfare/benefits system and are free to continue this behavior (as well as attract more of it from those on the fringe), while the successful and capable are punished with high taxation and burdensome living requirements that make things like parenthood extremely unpalpable. It's not good for individuals, it's not good for the collective as eventually the share of contributors vs dependents will become ridiculously skewed and systems will go bankrupt or awry.

>This site doesn't trend towards an aggregate consensus like reddit.
That's blatantly false. If I start a thread right now saying something like "Jews actually aren't that bad" or post a picture of an interracial couple, I can predict every single response like clockwork. Any time, any day of the week, it will be the exact same thing. On pretty much any other website, including Facebook and Reddit, that would be met with a variety of different responses, positive, indifferent, and negative. Don't get me wrong, I'm a part of it too. I've been on here for ten years. But don't delude yourself into thinking you're some kind of "individual," rebel, or free thinker because you post on Jow Forums. You've just finally found yourself a social club you can conform to, most likely because it's "edgy" or makes you feel controversial.

>never met Ukrainian who produced enough wheat to feed his family
>never met a member of Politburo who thought the party should reform

literally what you sound like

>Saying example of LA freeways has anything to do with their city government.
>They literally invented the freeway system in America
>Says Houston has figured it out after they installed the freeway system
>Cities are intrinsically collectivist

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You're completely wrong. Facebook and Reddit, fucking seriously? By design they bury dissent and promote consensus agreement. You're lying. You just don't like the prevailing sentiment on this forum. I would agree there is a prevailing sentiment and culture, that's natural to any human community, but to act like it's more hivemindy than fucking reddit is a good way to just throw out your entire argument because that's false on its face. You can't predict shit because most threads have a pretty crazy spectrum of responses even if you can pick out a majority. You don't want to admit leftism, by definition, kills individuality in its eagerness to promote the collective but that is its political function so your denial doesn't make any sense to me. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

You have a point, but you ignore the other side of your own argument. You only hear about the most successful being strong individualists because they were the ones who succeeded, but how often do you hear about the people who... well, who think and talk like you, become successful?

You could turn your entire argument around and say that you only hear of successful collectivists because they didn’t end up dead for jumping in front of the bus/train while waiting for it, or because they didn’t end up stuck in court trying to collect child support, or else get stuck in the system trying to get more welfare.

That, or they’re hypocrites who extol the virtues of communism while reaping the benefits of individualism

I don't think you get what I mean. Houston is regarded as kind of out of control because their lax regulations led to weird ass zoning where there's an endless patchwork of parking, skyscrapers, housing, and buildings rather than any kind of collective order.

Why wouldn't LA's shitty transit system have "anything to do with their city governmnt". That is the city government's job, to manage transit and mitigate any bullshit like their freeways. It's poor city planning, not some kind of hallmark of individual failure, and 99% of American cities have been run by leftists for decades now so it's weird to associate it with individualists.

You are literally bitching that this site is nothing like the hive mind hugboxes that you’re used to. Your entire post is invalid.

Still never saw a commie who wasn’t a worthless druggie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

honestly how do you defend the fact that average CEO pay went from around 25x to 250x the average worker pay and that the middle class has gotten shafted?

people used to be able to live on 1 salary comfortably, now people are literally working 4 jobs in a household just to get by.

and don't start talking about being unskilled, unskilled labor was paid a fair wage in the past too.

it's honestly baffling that unsuccesful capitalist bootlickers can't see this

raise wages, tax the wealthy

>being an individulaist means being a moron
>being this much of a braindead retard
>not realising that individualism means having agency and taking responsibility for shortcomings instead of blaming god or other people

I mean I literally haven’t met a commie who wasn’t total fucking scum. Why do you guys always tend to be total dregs and gutter rats? This ideology attracts nothing but deadbeats I swear

>honestly how do you defend the fact that average CEO pay went from around 25x to 250x the average worker pay and that the middle class has gotten shafted?
By being a cock sucker sperm eater that doesn't question the system. Sheeple basically. Brainlets. Some people just like getting cucked by life.

I like how he completely ignores all the retards on his side. They’re more likely to die of their own stupidity than anyone else.

your shit anecdotal evidence means nothing.

have you ever followed even any secundary education? you sound

go back to pol stupid niggerfaggot

>begging for free scraps, doled out by government
>thinks he’s not “sheeple”

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I thought the failure of the unsuccessful/incapable isn't necessarily seen as a bad thing if you're about human evolution from an individual standpoint

Not that the odd case of catastrophe and the genuinely unlucky don't exist, but by and large most of the unsuccessful are there because they suck, naturally, so across the board it is a net benefit for humanity if their line doesn't continue.

That aspect of society literally gets ignored today. Not that we need to go to that extreme but its blanketly ignored. We are going to pay for that down the line. We aren't where we are today because humans or human ancestors were exceptionally compassionate in the past, on the contrary a lot of stupid, lazy, ineffective individuals had to die and not reproduce.

We will pay for it. Everyone will suffer, capable and incapable alike once we've picked up enough genetic debt and we're an ineffective society.

Your shit adhom means nothing.

>have you ever followed eve any secundary
>even any
>secundary
You clearly haven’t, faggot

Neocons and neoliberals opened up American markets in the 80's and 90's to Mexican, Chinese, etc. competition and completely gutted manufacturing. That alone is responsible for a ton of job loss and wage stagnation among the lower middle and middle classes. Meanwhile the profits of these movements were realized by top of the line executives.

And this was mostly done by Democrats, whose economic model has been "open up markets, and expand welfare" for a while now. Since FDR. You bought the "protectionism bad" kool aid and now you will pay for it. But at least there's always food stamps and Section 8!

This whole thread you've been spouting random incoherent bullshit with no bases to your claims. Kys

You are literally guilty of everything in your entire post. My “claims” have more “bases” than yours in this thread. I say again:
>begging for free scraps, doled out by government
>thinks he’s not “sheeple”

Unironically, kill yourself you worthless fucking leech. You will die poor, and you will never amount to anything.

What happens when you double the supply of labour? You halve the wages
Allowing women into the workforce in the 60s/70s did that

fuck you nigger. all fucking niggers must fucking hang and you should too