Is trucking doomed as a career choice?

Is trucking doomed as a career choice?

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Bottom of the barrel

Decade. Self driving cars and trucks will come.

There is a huge demand for truck drivers right now but there is no future in like 10 years.

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Might be if self driving trucks are a thing in the next 5-10 years,but alas the unions will never allow so many truckers to lose their jobs out of the blue so make that 25-30 year.

This, shit will be phased, instead of hiring a new driver when one leaves they will just get a automatic truck . They cant even get cars right 20 years away i say

>unions

Are you from 1960?

There's a """"shortage"""" of people willing to work insane hours for minimum wage.

I don’t think the unions could do anything about it

nah

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You're gunna trust Windows 10 not to bluescreen when it tries to cross a river on a dirt road while towing 3~10 trailers behind it?

This. The demand for truckers will still be there for the next 20-40 years, but it will start to decrease within 10 years (which will cause wages to decrease). In other words, it’s a bad career choice now, but truckers in their 40s+ will probably be fine.

It won't disappear, but a CDL holder will be more like a harbor pilot if this actually does happen.

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This. I had a buddy who tried trucking. after 3 months or so he worked out the numbers that he was barely making $9 an hour, for being on the road for weeks and in a truck 24/7 a day. The golden era for truckers was the 80s and 90s. Now it's slave tier

There's always going to be a need for transporting of goods. Machines might be used more in the future. Eventually I imagine we're going to be having ships transport things in space. Interesting to think about.

Try to get a selfdriving TRUCT to back into a cramped alley full of other cars and unload itself.

Truck triving will be a ting for a long ass time.

There's going to be human drivers but they're going to handle parking the trucks and driving them through complicated roads. Special forces truckers.

No. Overhyped because of clickbait. AI advanced enough for self-driving trucks where you need no human behind the wheel is easily 15 years away. Then, the price has to go down enough for it to be profitable for mass production (another 5-10 years). Then, you need to replace existing fleets (another five years).

Even if self driving trucks come sooner than expected there are still millions of trucks that can't be self driving currently in use. Those aren't just going to disappear overnight and no one is going to just leave them idle when there is transportation needing to be done.

Planes still need pilots. And planes have been able to fly themselves since the 1980s

The human element still needs to be present. This won't change for a few decades

Just get your HAZMAT endorsement on your CDL. DOT will never allow HAZMAT trucks to be automated.

I'm sure there will still be a place for *some* truckers, in more unusual or dangerous environments. As a whole most truckers will be out of a job.

All today's truck drivers can go be asteroid miners.

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Self driving is trying to solve a strong AI problem using really really advanced weak AI. At the end of the day it’s still weak AI, which will gladly plow an 18 wheeler into a crowd of people or cars at highway speeds like on bastille day if it makes a mistake (and it will). Who will be liable then?

ultimate doomer career.

nobody cuz there's no driver lmao. shoulda got out of the way!!!

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Damn, trucking is gonna become the absolute comfiest job in existence.

>The golden era for truckers was the 80s and 90s

Because that was the last time you could rape and murder truck stop prostitutes and still get away with it. Yeehaw!!

yeah, sitting for 10 hours on your ass on the road sounds ace. Obviously we'll get to work longer hours like pilots cause so much is automated.

Its not dying tomorrow, but nothing is really doomed for someone who can ADAPT.
"Be water, my friend..."

Truck drivers pay a lot of taxes. For that reason alone I think law makers will resist any movement towards mass adoption of self driving trucks. I'm a truck driver. The hours are long. But it's a good way to make money. I've been doing it for about 8 years now and make 150k a year as a driver.

Kek I got my CDL just yesterday no shit

Also, you could support a wife, children, and a crippling meth habit on the wages.

>be me
>be OTR
>make 4k a month after taxes
>have almost no bills
>building huge stacks every month

lifes good.

The self driving truck is a meme.

I don't doubt that we'll have badass cruise control features with lane assist that won't let you crash into other vehicles, but a "self driving truck?" Never.

However, if you're gonna get into it I suggest doing so now while the demand is as astronomical as it is. I predict that once this technology arrives + a recession or market over-saturation in other fields such as IT, software development, etc., people are going to run toward the trades in droves-- only to find out that they can't just up-and-become an electrician or a plumber, while you can pretty much become a CDL holding truck driver inside of two weeks.

It's fun job. It is hard though, but at least you don't have to put up with people, with the exception of the other cars on the road of course.

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My local craigslist is filled with trucking ads. 70-100k pay.

>implying unions are still a huge power

this but unironically

Every one of those fuckers I've talked to who have over a year or two experience makes hundreds of thousands a year. I don't give a shit how many hours they "work", they make good fucking money. Ignore the retards who think self driving cars will happen, literally science fiction. And ignore people who say it doesn't work out to good pay. These fuckers are paid to listen to the radio and podcasts and eat whatever they want while fapping in a cab with high speed internet and getting drunk.

>Unions
I didn't know we were still in the 20th century

>will come

They are already here
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Bro. You are so close to the truth i have to give you a (you). Like, completely no shit, with the execution of smart contracts in the next 5 years and machine learning features making code easier quicker and self correcting there will be a HUGE shift back towards trades, because you CANT get a robot to do that shit. Period.

Hell, i know a dude who has worked in IT for 30+ years and hes up there in a position to not shake a finger at, and you know what he told me ? Hes gonna retire and become a parttime plumber; why tho ? Read the above paragraph.

learn to code :^)

Citizens won't be allowed to drive cars on government streets in the future.

IT is extremely demanding to keep up with, that could be the reason he wants out, and if he WANTS to work as a plumber he probably has some weird fetish
btw just because someone is in IT doesn't mean they know shit about how fast a specific field of IT is going to progress, that's just a really retarded assumption

Look at the date of that article.

2017 was the year of the obsession with autonomous vehicles. Uber already abandoned their automated semis and now look at this article written one year later in 2018:

theloadstar.co.uk/tesla-may-abandoning-semi-project/


Autonomous vehicles, are, a, meme. Sure they exist, but so does nuclear power, yet why isn't the whole world being powered by nuclear reactors? Truth is there's no need to fix something that isn't broken.

No need to reinvent the wheel. No pun intended.

Also, who's going to bang the lot lizards?

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they look too good for lot lizards. are you sure they're not just hitchhikers?

You can get laid driving a truck?
What if I don't have a truck or a job, can you still get pussy in parking lots like this ?

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Lot lizards for sure.

Don't get me wrong, there's a ton of ferociously but-ugly rest stop hookers out there that will haunt your nightmares for the rest of your life. I mean LIKE awful awful ugly. However, there are also some unbelievably damn good hot ones out there. Some that even look like they should be doing porn. Hell, I've seen some of these chicks that look like they should be modeling or something.

It's difficult for some big city (or just non small town dwellers) people to understand that in some places in the states truck drivers are perceived the same way as I would imagine pilots were looked up to in the 60's. You have to keep in mind that there are people living in America well below the poverty line where getting a job at Walmart is a celebratory event. There are a lot of people out there that can't read or write (can't get a job driving a rig if you can't read the CDL handbook) and when they see us coming into town in our trucks it's a big fucking deal to them.

I met a chick once on the road that just kept pointing around my cab asking me "what does this do? What does that do?" like she was mesmerized by the very idea she was even in a moving semi. She wasn't a hooker either, I met her at a diner. To her it was the equivalent of being let into a cockpit and hanging out with the pilot. Hell, she had never even seen an airplane up close.

Truck on.

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Yes..

They're hookers.

no, just keep on trucking on trucker

Is it true that "truck stops" are popular with fags who suck truckers' dicks? Like are glory holes real or just a porn meme?

Check out THESE articles if you're still worried:

>rtscarrierservices.com/articles/five-reasons-not-worry-about-self-driving-trucks

>truckinginfo.com/159921/why-self-driving-trucks-dont-add-up

>forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2017/08/12/why-robots-will-find-it-hard-to-push-truckers-out-of-the-cab/#ee86e9d53021


I know this one isn't an article (is it?) but the first reply makes a very good point about pedestrians:

>quora.com/Truckers-what-are-you-going-to-do-when-self-driving-trucks-become-mainstream

Yeah, what if someone just stood near-behind your truck for extended periods of time? (think transients and spun out homeless drug addicts.) What then? So you need to back in a trailer from the street, you've stopped traffic momentarily in order to do so, but there's some bum hallucinating just close enough to your bumper where it's not safe to back in. What would a self-driving semi do? I know what I would do, and it's not something a computer could.

See it's little things like the example above that is going to stop this technology dead in its tracks. Also, sometimes backing means breaking traffic laws (there's just no other way depending on the location,) is the computer going to be programmed to break traffic laws in the name of business? if so, who would be held accountable? The software company that wrote it? The company that employs it? The customer who ordered it? All of the above? These are all things that don't come to mind when discussing automation, all we think about is the big rig on the open road driving itself and ask "well how hard could that be?" When in reality, it's far more complex than that when you really stop to think about it.

Keep in mind that these companies make a lot of money off investors without really looking into the future "big picture" of their workings. Uber, Amazon, and Netflix are worth billions, yet their business model IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. Look it up.

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Oh no there are A LOT of gay lot lizards. Trannies even, if that floats your boat.

I myself have never ever ever been with a hooker (and I sure as fuck wouldn't do any fag shit to begin with.) The thing is, there's normal chicks out there too that aren't hookers that you'll meet at different places. I used to drop off fish in Las Vegas and hang out inside the casinos (when I should've been sleeping.) I met the most beautiful Thai chick (she looked like Brenda Song.) I bought her some drinks, we played poker for a bit and off to a room we went.

I'm not even that great looking, and I'm a manlet (5'6") but I guess when you have it you have it. There's something about a working guy who's just minding his own business trying to make a living that makes you very attractive to women, or so I've noticed.

Pic related. She looked like THAT, like just like that. I was looking up a picture of Brenda Song just for reference to attach to this post and I literally got dejavu when I saw this pic.

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Self driving trucks are ages away, like at least 15-20 years MAYBE.... And even if they can drive themselves, a person will probably still need to be there in the cab.

doomed probably. give it 10-15 years if you're super optimistic. However everthing means new opportunities in one way or another. self driving trucks will be a rewarding traget for thiefs and organized crime syndicates so truck defending is, where the future's at bro.

It is actually going to start with every trucker being given an self-driving car and they will just be there to ensure it doesn't crash. It will be a cozy job for a few years. Then it goes full automation and they lose their jobs.

However A lot of them will probably try to sabotage the truck to prove they can't be trusted.

Then? what happened?
You start to speak about trannies...
THen you blogpost about a thoty thai looking too good for a manlet you were about to fuck.

I was expecting the both situations to link, like.. idk man, thai, tranny, thot 2gud2Btrue...
So bro, was she a he?

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No they always will be truckers.
I mean comon user, trains are on fucking RAILS, fully automated, always stop at the same stations and can only go one way, and trains drivers are still a thing.

yes and they do carry like what? 100x time of what a truck can... paying a train driver ain't a big deal trucker is another story

Looking up some quick numbers there are 3.5 Million Truck drivers in the United States. From what information I was able to find there are less than 10K Train operators.

You do the math about how much will be saved by removing Truck Drivers.

Apocalyptic automation is a meme, simple automation will only happen to minimum wage loser jobs, but jobs that actually require precision and can put peoples lives in danger won't be replaced by automation until the 2070s. Kids born in 2050 will unironically have the worst fucking life possible. They'll literally be fighting for minimum wage jobs and everything will cost a fuck ton. People will be living with random strangers in 1 bedroom apartments just to get by. You think your life sucks now? Thank your lucky stars you won't live to the 2100s.

Also truck driving is literally Wage Cage TM

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wtf is this non-argument??
1 train = 1 driver
1 truck = 1 trucker

If you want less truckers you need to change the infrastructures (bigger roads, bigger trucks), not muh automation meme.

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no way fag, even if they are safer people will freak out when the first serious accident happen. Because for more reason people fear more being killed by an AI rather than being killed by their own stupidity.

It's fun because kikes during the 70's & 80's were shilling automation and robotisation of the workforce as a future Eden, paradise on earth were penibility and labor would be eradicated and everyone could become a stoner on UBI gibs and have infinite free times.
Boomers were gullible enough to eat this shit then the big de-industrialization and automation shitstorm started but no UBI in sight so just more poverty and more pression downward on wages and harder recruitment process since you have to compete with shitskins slaves who accept literally any condition. In short, less workers but always more work and competition between remaining workers.

Now it's the opposite, we learned from the NPC-tier errors of the boomers and know this supposed utopia is just the final touch of the protocols of the elder of zion.
When automation get fully implemented, expect a superebola-chan developped by the kikes to wipe out 90% of the goyim.

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Btw fren, you can make the™ symbol by pressing alt+0153 on your keyboard

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dude are you trolling? buisness is about how much it takes to get something from a to b and the question here is how much of that cost is caused by paying wages. paying a trucker and paying a train driver are to pair of shoes..

No i simply don't understand which alternative do you propose. Saying there are less trains drivers is not a solution, it's just enouncing a fact even a 4yo knows.

That shit can be solved with sensors. All the problems you see will be solved by lawyers, engineers, consultants and politicians much smarter than you, and there are going to be a lot less people dead because computers dont drive drunk or tired or horny or dumb or all of those. Maybe you'll be allowed to supervise the truck from a wage cage during a transition period.

Spot on, the future is going to be really.. really fucking dark.

Unironically the only chance we have is some freak accident human-made bioweapon getting loose and wiping out 99% of the population and starting over. We'll ultimately end up in the same place though, it's inevitable.

I'm not a fucking freight company manager user. I suppose no sollution here just saying that from an economical POV it's MUCH more rewarding to remove truck drivers and therefore you should take that into consideration when asking something like OP did ... beside that I already gave my outlook here: guy's it's not too hard anticipate: by the time truck will go autonomous you'll have to consider security and theft protection (physical and virtual) this is, where the money and opportunities will be ... it's almost obvious

ive heard this iceroad truckers in alaska make a ton of money

>Pic related. She looked like THAT, like just like that.
Haha, to any sailor in Thailand that's just Tuesday afternoon you mook.