Are these really safe?

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Safe from everything but someone physically getting their hands on it. After that the closest you can get is someone hijacking the browser or wallet you are using and specifying a different address on your computer screen but you have to confirm the address on the ledger anyway to its on you if you miss it.

What if some exploit got discovered down the line where an insider in the company entered something into the production line where they could still your keys?

steal* dammit

Well the ledger nano is clised source so you are trusting the manufacturers to not put in a back door. They did offer bounties if anyone could hack their device and noone could. Trezor is open source so anyone would be able to see if there was a back door. There isn't one.

You literally do not understand enough about the product to know why that is a retarded question.

"Its safer than a paper wallet!"
>Please write down your recovery phrase

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Yes, I locked in my bitcoins at $16,000 and I've been laughing ever since

Trezor is better?

Read this

>Well the ledger nano is clised source so you are trusting the manufacturers to not put in a back door.