DISCUSS: BTC Lightning Network

I personally believe any form of layer 2 "lightning network" is using fake bitcoin and therefore will never see widespread adoption. They are also fucking impracticle. BTC does not need to be digital cash, but it should be the commodity that digital cash is pegged to.

First, lightning nodes must be preloaded with the balance of real BTC that it expects to use. Imagine preloading your coffee shop's lightning channel with enough BTC to buy a month's worth of coffee.. it's fucking annoying. And no you can't just send BTC to your lightning channel whenver you want to use it, because that defeats the whole point of lightning channels.

Not only this, but the only parts of a lightning channel that are settled on-chain is the opening and closing of the channel, essentially making this an IOU system even more faggy and pajeety than our current fiat lending system.. It requires large amounts of trust which is antithetical to bitcoin.. Fuck blockstream.

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Lightning network is just a dumb idea from inception. If normalfags can't click Send and have everything work they won't even bother with bitcoin. Venmo already allows Roastie #1 send bar money to roastie #2. If it's not at least as good as that, forget it

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Using LN is just like using a bank, the only difference is that LN is worse.

Exactly. Also it might just be because I'm a goldfag, but I believe higher tx fees add to the bitcoin network's value. I truly think that the BTC chain will only be used for large government settlements and transparency. Miners will live off these scarce transactions while meanwhile we buy our groceries with other chains, maybe Stellar or a similar network with nearly instant settlements.

The fees would have to be utterly gargantuan, and at that point it would not benefit financial institutions.

Lightning Network is not meant for normalfags like us. It's more suited for big businesses like your Walmart and your Starbucks. Either ways, in a few years Bitcoin will become so expensive that nobody would want to do normal transactions with it, and it's good that way. It'll become more of a store of value. I see this post being screencapped in the future showing the ignorance of people on how lightning network will work

this situation isn't possible because there only needs to be one other sha256 chain with on chain adoption and miners will dump btc
or btc will adopt inflation to incentivise miners past the end of the block reward in which case it is no different to feds usd

This! At some point they will have to add inflation because it won't be profitable for miners anymore, but you need the miners to secure your network. It's something Satoshi didn't really think about desu

>using fake bitcoin
we really are the lowest IQ board on Jow Forums