Is 600ng/dL of Testosterone low for 25 y/o male?

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youve been posting non stop today lad.

time to walk outside

just get your fat ass to the gym, less fap, learn something instead of lurking on Jow Forums, less games and stop going to anti aging clinics

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>boomers had it so much easier
>with their jobs and wars and testosterone levels

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It's not great but not bad. I'm at 470ish. Having personally done self administered low dose TRT I would say spend at least a few months lurking the fraud thread on fit and then go for it. There's virtually no downsides to LOW DOSE TRT aka never going above 500mg/wk test E. That's pretty high tho is recommend 200 to 250mg

You should suck my fat high test weenie faggot

I tested 380 a few years ago and been on TRT since. A friend of mine was 700, and he seems to still get alot of benefit from 180mg test a week, enough for his cheap Jew ass to never want to come off after he tried a low dose cycle. He responds better than me though. At 150mg I'm only at 600, so I need 300mg to stay in the golden 1k-1.2k range. High enough to feel enhanced, but low enough to avoid sides. Alternatively, I could stay at 150mg and supplement with proviron(safer for lipids) or low dose winny to reduce sbgh and estrogen conversion to achieve the same effect. But in the US, proviron is hard to come by and will cost about 50$ a month to daily dose, maybe tripple that price if it's from a pharma. Not aware of any approved proviron generics in US pharmacies.

If anyone has questions I'll watch the thread a bit. I'm fully autistic and read/watched any info you could possibly find over the years, and put half a dozen people either on TRT or guided through a cycle with great results.

I have/had a very deep voice, high sex drive, and a full beard since 18 but my levels were in the 300s. My symptoms we're excessive fatigue and zero appetite. There are 3 main components to the symptoms and side effects of either low test, or being on gear. Their ratios and your sensitivity to each of them dictate just as much as the raw number. Some men have high DHT but aren't sensitive to it and never bald, where others may be average levels and bald - yet have low test still. Some men could have high test naturally, but their estrogen is so high it negates any benefit. And so on and so on..

>less fap
>posts Mia Malkova
I'm off to fap right now

Just ran my 1st cycle 250mg 10 weeks. No AI
Off 9 days now and just seeing how I feel the next couple weeks.
Thoughts for 2nd cycle into spring and summer? Figure about 6ish weeks off. I don't care much about growing muscle, just want to shred down and stay healthy/minimize sides.

For those goals, yeah there's no reason to use more than 250 test. Everyone reacts differently so there's some trial and error in trying different compounds if you plan to keep doing this(you will lol).

You have a few options. It depends what your sensitivity is to certain things but I'll do a quick pros and cons and what I would personally use as a dose with those goals in mind.

Winstrol oral start with ~30mg a day, increase 10mg every 5-7 days until you start to feel sides then decrease, but I wouldnt go past 80 if this is for 4-5 weeks . Stay at 50 if it's 6-8 weeks, as it will damage lipids. Longer term, I use 40-50 mg but only twice a week or for 3-4 days then a week off. Pros of winny and why I love it, the sexual side effects(better than Viagra), extreme hardening of muscle within 2 days for a beach trip or something. Cons and sides, if you're prone to hairloss keep an eye on shedding with dose. Above 50mg your joints will start to feel dry/fatigued eventually, and above 50 be nice to your kidneys. No booze, drink extra water. I prefer injectable winny, but it's harder to pin down a dose. I honestly just pin 100mg as "needed" when I feel test bloat, don't cycle it anymore.

Anavar - just a more expensive and safer winny, but 95 percent chance you get fake anavar so I never advise it

Proviron - it's winny light. Less sides, less potent, but it has it's use if you have a cheap supply. 25mg is supplement dose, I'd run 75mg if I was desperate for a little kick to a test cycle.

Tren - the king as you should know. Everyone has such drastic differences in sides I won't bother going through it. I would never advise a beginner to cycle with tren, BUT, personally my sides fr tren are mostly insomnia and becoming some kind of sexual god that women write about in their fantasy novels where I fuck them through a wall 4 times a day like an enraged baboon. That aside, there's great value in low dose tren. 150-200 at most.

Also, as a general rule of thumb - always keep a stash of AI and nolvadex on hand. You can get cheap aromasin from enhancedathlete. I'd grab some Cialis from them too. I use Cialis sometimes for a better pump when I'm off cycle, or to reduce blood pressure if I'm retaining water on cycle. And you should do pct next time. Don't listen to all the shills with the 400$ pct protocol, for a small cycle just some nolvadex for 2 weeks is fine with AI as needed. Generally I'm prone to estrogen side effects and ai wrecks my strength, so the most I do now is up to 500 test with inj winny or up to 300 tren. I don't do high doses anymore.

TY for the advice sir
Yeah I was looking at Wintrol. My liver is good as I'm a non drinker anyway. Only issue is my joints act up some times already. Not worried about hairloss and all the males in my family keep their hair.

Should I run test 250 as a base with the winny or winny alone?
I'll look a little more into proviron.
I'll try some low test/low tren some time for the lols. Not in a hurry for that ride haha.

Yeah im familiar with EA. I ordered PCT/AI but got ripped off by another site.

>a full beard

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250 base test always. Don't run anything without test as a base. If you have dry/achey joints already, then perhaps a low dose of deca might be better. You won't get the water retention it's known for if you stay under 300mg, guys use 600+ to bulk on deca. There's great benefit in low dose deca for recovery, joints, and longer term gains if your diet is clean. I wouldn't do less than 14 weeks with deca though. Alternatively there's NPP which is a different, faster ester of deca, but personally I didn't experience the therapudic effect that deca offers with it. EQ/bold is another alternative, but is the least beginner friendly as this is extremely slow (16+ weeks) and increases hemoglobin enough that you may have to donate blood at some point lol.

So based off that, I'd recommend 12-14 weeks of 250 test and 250 deca. Keep ai on hand. Second option, start with 250 test and try out winny see how you feel, and if the sides aren't worth it - bump up test to 400 mid cycle for 4 weeks, reduce back to 250 for two weeks, then come off.

Come at me, fgt

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Lol were you born with both male and female genetalia?

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Whats a standard beginner test prop cycle?
Will I need clomid/nolvadex or both after?

I'm gay, so negging me won't work. Sorry roastie.

Prop? You should inject every day, but I go with every other day cause I'm lazy. 50mg a day, bump it to 75 after two weeks if everything is going smoothly and you want a bit more. Generally 400-500a week of test only is the standard baby's first cycle. Just nolvadex, and an ai. Ai is either aromasin or arimidex. Take ai as needed any time if you start getting acne, retain too much water, feel your nipples get sensitive. Nolvadex, if you use prop, take it 3 days after last shot. The safe Pct protocol with nolva is 40 mg a day for two weeks split morning and night, then 1 week of 20mg a day whenever. Most people don't need ai at that dose, but you need it on hand, no excuses. You don't want to end up with a lump under your nipples if by some chance you are hyper sensitive to estrogen that could of been prevented with a 40$ box of ai

Protip if you inject T you’re not a pro. Real men have high T naturally you’re nothing more than Mrs. Doubtfire.

Fag

how long is a good first cycle 6 weeks? 12? the test prop I got is 100mg per ml how many vials will I need?

Oh, and 12 weeks is standard but you can go to 14. Guys that blast/cruise like me tend to prefer 16-20 and run smaller doses. The theory here is that if you do plan to come off, the diminishing returns on cycle length compared to recovery time in pct - accounting for ester length - makes that time frame ideal. You can get creative with prop though, but I wouldn't recommend it as a beginner. You don't know how your body reacts and recovers yet. Where as some guys who do know, it's not uncommon to run as short as 2 week prop cycles and playing things as they come, with such a short half life.

The benefit of prop over c/e is it's closer to a natural daily peaks and valleys, so you feel "on". Where as e/c , the higher test becomes a baseline of "contentment" if that makes sense.

would you recommend test cyp for a beginner then? what is the standard?

Yeah. My penis is 9 inches though, so I cope friend.

Answered in other post, but I also always recommend getting blood work done before and during cycle so you know your baseline and how the dose is effecting you. You can order a blood panel with only test/estrogen for under 100$ online and they send the request to a local clinic to draw, then email you the results so you don't need to waste time with a doc. I think it's like labdirect or something, would have to look around google

Just go with cyp if you didn't buy already. It's cheaper per mg, and you only need to inject twice a week.