Any internet marketing fucks?

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I sell my own shit so I keep 100% commission.

Killing it! As promised, here's my meager stats.
Are you selling your own product?

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Digital product or something you build personally/ have contract manufactured? Sorry for the anointing questions...

Digital products, yes.

>2 sales
>4k

wtf are you selling for $2000 and who the hell is buying it?

I'm jealous as shit. Any tips for converting a working self employment system into a digital product and selling it as a business op?

Nvm youre selling a webinar. what are you some kind of guru selling normies marketing secrets?

Is it an info product or SaaS? The thing bad about info product is that some nigger would just rip and torrent your shit :(

great stats, considering 99.99% of these wannabe internet marketers have made little to nothing after years and years of being online.

pure cunts, they only wanna take the easy route & don't get out of their comfort zone & do the hard stuff like webinars & paid ads.

i've come to the conclusion that if you aren't making anything online, it's 100% your fucking fault.

info product.

i have a dmca takedown team that works on behalf of me so it doesn't last long on torrent sites.

yeah, pretty much, I don't come up with my own shit though for training, I teach stuff that other gurus are teaching.

and they do the same thing as well hahaha

What is this? And can you specify race in facebook/instagram adds?

if you sell with the right angle & know how to bump up perceived value it's easy to sell high ticket shit

have a launch for it and get an army of affiliates by offering 100% commissions on a mid-ticket product for $300 or so.

hire a copywriter with a track record to create a very very high converting funnel, split test the shit out of it, and in the backend, upsell a high ticket product ($997-$1997) which is where the money will be made as your affiliates will only make the money with the frontend mid-priced product. upsell them even more though, some of these fucks invest as much a $50k in programs like these.

nope.

however, when I look at the names of buyers, I see a decent amount of spic names

Is the majority of your ads google adwords or another platform? Do you run mobile campaigns for traffic?

What would you say is the "secret sauce" to copywriting? Pushing the customer's emotional button and insecurities? Or filling their needs.

So what do you sell? A real estate course or some shit?

Seems daunting. I know what all the words you're saying mean, and I can fit everything into context, but the way you explain it so simply almost makes it more intimidating.

I'm going to screencap your post and meditate on it.

You know how it goes (I assume) when you set up a working groove for yourself; you know you need to keep moving forward, but the inertia is brutal.

Thanks for the words of wisdom.

i cant blame you, ive thought about going the guru route. theres just so many now. but hey it seems like its still working by looking at your numbers.

>webinar
>makes money
It's gotta be a webinar on how to get rich by selling webinars. Or some other high level scammery.
Every time I hear the term webinar I cringe so hard my asshole starts shitting diamonds. Modern day snake oil salesmen.
But hey, if you're able to scam hundreds of people out of money and not neck yourself while doing it, more power to you.

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you using clickbank for the affiliates or crak? or something else?

You're on a board where the primary advice is to buy a speculative electronic hash mark with no use or intrinsic value for $3500 in hopes of selling it to a greater fool at some late date. This is unironically the NO JUDGEMENT ZONE.

This is really unfortunate. What if I had a product I specifically know would sell better in "ghettos"? Are you telling me I can't target them specifically?

>The real nigga webinar on how to get rich in the projects $199

JK but not about the products for them.

last i looked, you can definitely target people who like negro oriented pages.

I assumed as much. Thanks user.

youtube ads, and for your other question, I'd say the secret sauce for copywriting is finding the right selling angle.

shopify

there are people far worse on the ethical scale than me.

and desu i have people who make money with what I teach, but yea, I do overcharge for what I offer.

one of my buddies is one of them, and he sold those bogus binary options trading softwares, one of his launches did 8 figures in revenue in 10 days...

I use paid ads

I used to do product launches on JVZoo, but stopped because I heavily relied on JVs and you have to suck JV cock by promoting their shitty courses if they promote yours.

that is true, but I mostly do my targeting off of custom audiences, from my email list + my YT channel

If you had to start over, how would you get yourself making money in a months' time?

spics buy from me a lot, but niggers don't that often.

the niggers buy from the nigger gurus

it's unethical, but what I would do is make fake testimonials, and find free leads on facebook to close for $297, and then upsell them something for $1997

you can find these people on facebook on ads from gurus like tai lopez, me, russell brunson, etc.

>Shopify webinars
That's gonna be a yikes from me dawg.
How do you morally justify selling actual shit to desperate people?
I've had to do it in the past and left the job because of it.
I took my couple thousand lead list with me just so that they wouldn't be bothered by whoever replaced me.

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I can justify it because 99.999% of people are NOT going to take action on what I teach.

seriously, these people love to see get rich quick shit and they run away from the true solutions.

desu though, there's this Jewish part of my brain that doesn't give a fuck about morals and ethics, while being charming & manipulative.

i hope i'm not fucking jewish though

however, if you were in the game for as long as me and got to know the average customer then you might change your opinion.

Do you show your face in the webinars for brand recognition? Or do you strictly do paid traffic with landing pages?

What kind of advice do you have for someone thats dabbled with CPA before but is unfamiliar with selling their own product especially with little capital?

Guilty as charged personally.

Cool thread. If you're not LARPing, that's an incredibly interesting way to make a living.

Thoughts on advertising through Brave/BAT?

>A worldwide computer network is worth $3,500 a share
>judgement

Kill yourself.

yes, it's important to show your face otherwise they don't trust you.

and yes, I send my paid traffic to a webinar signup page.

For cpa, I would create a PBN (Private blog network) that autoposts trending unique content by using a text spinner.

Put ads on your site for cpa offers, and split test them to find a winner.

I know of a guy who does this for affiliate offers, and crushes it on leaderboards, he generates around 1 million visitors a month for free.

How long did it take to build the funnel and thr course?

I do performance marketing for a living. Spend 100k a month for travel.

Would love recurring model.

desu i don't like to speak on what i don't know, and have no idea what brave is.

it depends on your niche though, if it's a large one like weight loss, it should be possible to make an ROI, but if it's more targeted I would stick to bigger platforms like FB, ig, bing, & adwords

I've gotten good at facebook & YT advertising so I stick to that instead of doing something like 10 different ad platforms at once.

So it’s a Shopify biz opp webinar? How do you justify the price?

around 1 month but I've always been tweaking my webinars for higher conversions + finding new audiences that would convert with my webinar

Hit me up on Snapchat
sammyblackstar

I think I can help you scale your FB een more.

yes.

there's a lot of different ways to justify a high price.

the shortest answer is to know how to make the perceived value higher.

we all know that if apple removed it's logos from their products their perceived value would drop a lot.

What I do though, is sometimes use the angle of how going to college costs 5 figures & how a lot of students are earning basically nothing, but with my program, they can earn more and it costs a whole lot less than college.

i must be misunderstanding. how do paid ads get you affiliates to push your course?

Thanks for the thread, can i host a webinar on how to sell webinars?

Thanks. Do you charge all at once or is it monthly? What’s the refund and charge backs like? What platform is the funnel built on - using that click funnel shit or just html? If you had to start up in a new niche how would you go about it.

i do paid ads now, and I don't have any affs now.

I relied only on affiliates a few years ago without paid ads.

if you wanna get into the product launching game, learn to get good at affiliate promos and get on leaderboards.

and then try to join a JV circle, (they exist, only the heavy hitters know about them though) you can get a lot of affiliates on your launches that way.

refund rate is 7%.

and I charge all at once. I used to do split payments, but i stopped doing them.

chargeback rate is 1%, but I win them every time.

it's on clickfunnels, but that doesn't matter, any page builder will work.

If I were go into a new niche, I would say the weight loss one, it's a huge fucking niche

yes oh yes user i've actually done that before.

You could also be a coach that makes money by teaching others to coach others.

you mean jvzoo leader boards? jv circles are probably pretty small at this point. seems almost impossible.

Based. Is the product 100% video content? Or is there anything else I need to offer to build value? Any advice on the best/top ways to convert traffic?

nah, they are still strong, it's rare to find a top affiliate on a jvzoo leaderboard for a launch that's not in a JV circle.

the only ones I knew of that weren't in a jv circle and crushing it as an affiliate were ones with decent sized YT channels

not 100% video content, I offer them done for you material and things like an FB group.

For converting traffic its all about modeling other successful funnels and intensive split testing.

Is that $600k for the year all youtube traffic or did you do a big jv launch?

What does jv mean?

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it was all from paid ads, I quit doing product launches

That’s fucking amazing then man god damn I gotta get my shit together.

joint venture

Thanks.

joshua kaats kankermongool

however I built my credibility through product launches, so I probably wouldn't be making decent money with paid ads + webinars if it weren't for me launching products back in the day

If you’re doing paid traffic to cold leads why would your credibility matter though?

because I've gained a lot of testimonials and income proof that I can show that I got from product launching

Ok I see. How much do you work on it now that it’s earning? What requires time?

I spend most of my time tweaking my webby for higher conversions and identifying new audiences that would buy my shit

tldr, people dumb enough to pay 2k for some "secret" insider knowledge. props OP you are a hustler.

I'm a lead engineer at a top 50 AdTech company that has many millions in revenue every quarter. We work with many top companies to run their online ad campaigns and offer a cross-channel DSP and DMP solution.

I personally wrote and/or own many of the backend processes which is cool cuz I have access to some pretty incredible data

Did you make the product or you sell it as an affiliate?

Also where do you find really high end courses to sell as an affiliate?

Any chance to contact you via e-mail?

I did $1M in sales last year as an affiliate

I'm looking into ctfo. Looks really good..

youtu.be/MD1rha_bhxw
Not just the referral system, but the product itself too.

Congrats on all you've done!
I've been helping people lose weight for a month or so, after I lost about 35 pounds in a few months doing Keto, I made a course about it in spanish pretty good public speaking and explaining shit, and am trying out the facebook membership group tactic my very first digital product.
What do you recommend are some cool things to try out on this niche? I'm open to learning and looking shit up, appreciate it that you'd point me in the right direction

Where do you get your ideas? I don't mind coming up with something on my own, but I sure as fuck am not paying $1 either.

>drinking your own kool-aid so bad you don't understand the point
all webinars are zero-value added scams
keep fucking ladyboys telling yourself you're not gay either, fag

it's amazing tards like him think they're some sort of genius
his fucking answers stacked up sound like parody
>i justify it because i know 99.99% of them won't ever take action and i'm just taking their shit for false hope, suckers
>i don't create anything, i just steal what was made
>want to get started? make fake testimonials
>i show my face to manipulate them into trusting me
>most of my time is spent tweaking my sales pitch and looking for new suckers
>i trick my marks by anchoring college costs in their head, then telling them they can earn more with my scam courses i know they won't act on
>my courses are about the very hustle i do
thanks to healthy doses of 105iq rationalisation, the mong genuinely believes his scam is ok because it's just everyone else's fault they don't follow through...even though he's not selling any positive value material, the whole con is essentially a pyramid scheme squared as it would collapse if even 5% of his clients started doing the shit he tells them to

so congrats fagboy, you're basically the low level version of the wall street saying: "if you're so smart, why aren't you rich?"
if you're going to scam the poor and desperate yet don't go all the way to investment banking, you're a failure
being one notch above the drug addicts and welfare queens you grew up with don't make you some entrepreneurial genius
the "hard part" in what you do is hitting that sweet one standard deviation above your 90iq prey, as people around your intelligence can justify morally abject behavior without trouble if it benefits them

What if you are actually trying to help people with your webinar? What does that make you then?

btw, if any of you shitheads want a complete rundown on how to do the same junk, just check thefastlaneforum
gurus like him are mocked but also deconstructed, and you've got all the info you need to do their shit and even do it better than them
again, the only hard part is finding some justification for knowingly stealing money from idiots who WILL get in debt, neglect their kids, lose their house all for buying your fucking course, because if they weren't that stupid they would have noped out of your sales funnel the moment they saw the ad

every sleazy conman is "actually trying to help people". all webinars are scams. period. there's literally no legitimate point to a webinar when you can post the knowledge in public on youtube, have it scrutinized by other people so it's the best content it can be
the point of webinars is privacy. you isolate your mark from the rest of the world, so you can work the con on him. you make him feel like he's privvy to some inside knowledge, you appeal to his greed and dreams in the middle of giving vague advice, you lift him up and break him down and leave him a whimpering moron (no joke, a good conman will actually get their marks to cry as they watch PRERECORDED webinars), and then they fall to fomo, contact their bank for a loan and buy your fucking course
"internet marketers" like OP hide in the dark because it's not a pretty picture in the light. no webinar can withstand public scrutiny

You sound bluepilled as fuck. The people who actually fall for those $2k webinars are the same people who send money to Nigerian princes, take payday loans, have kids without planning etc etc. They(99%) will lose their money either way.

It's either gonna be OP making money or some other jew.

fiat currency is a unit of human misery

I disagree you pay for college why wouldn't you pay for actual useful information. Youtube ad revenue is shit.

>Expecting people to build up experience and just share that information for free

You sound like a commie.

and you sound like some bottomfeeding little shit who can neither make it by providing value nor by scamming all the way to the top (banking/law/politics), so you cling to some half-assed dog eat dog justification to think of yourself as some grizzly veteran with his eyes open, when really you're just genetic waste tolerated by those of us with higher potential and standards
and don't get me wrong, i know you're some fence-sitting fag neet or wagecuck who's not running any such hustle yourself, but feel content to come in here passing judgement as if your virtue-signaling was any different than reddit or twitter save for context. muh redpill my ass, you're not running a fucking eugenics program for praising some low level internet conman. go dress your pepe plushie in a plaid shirt and fuck it like it's your sergay you hope will passively make you rich, fag

>expecting
>expecting
you fucking retard
that's the point
ALL that information IS shared for free, in a better form. anything of substance a guru tells you is somewhere else on the internet, and without the emotional bullshit manipulating you into taking out your wallet
do you even know how a webinar goes, you mouthbreather?
video opens up to conman in a chair, looking at you, dim lighting, carefully constructed to draw feelings of intimacy (think ASMR for people even more retarded than ASMR viewers)
then the guy will introduce himself, talk about how his method made him successful, how he's going to teach you, how you can do it too, it's very simple all you got to do is follow the 5 steps
then each of the step is some fucking 30 seconds generic advice, peppered with appeals to your dreams, you trying to provide for your loved ones, and more of that low brow shit. show the flashy stuff, talk about the emotional stuff, get the tards to eat out of your hand
not only that, what little bit of real advice is in there is all screwed up by the lack of other essential points. in essence it's not only zero value, it's negative value. giving someone a parachute and telling them they're ready to fly a plane after they watched a 10 minutes video on it
so no, my sweaty fat fuck friend, if there's a commie rat in here it would be the shithead who wants scammers to roam free so powers that be have more excuses to push regulations, and scammed idiots are more likely to vote for it. conmen are as anti-capitalist as it goes, and useful idiots like you (assuming your greasy ass isn't just defending this because you run your own con) might as well salute the motherland, as you're doing more for communism than any little uni faggot wearing che guevara shirts

Yes actually the last webinar I watched was from an accountant that gave compliance advice for small start up businesses in my country and gave personal feedback on questions. I paid the roughly $50 for this, I didn't feel cheated. Seeing an accountant irl would have cost me around $200.

>Why should he do this for free?
>How is this a scam?

Also why are you so angry and profanity laced did someone cheat you out of $5 on a jelqing webinar and now your dick doesn't work?

disgusting