Anyone else almost want to kill themselves filing their taxes?
Ausfag filing taxes for 2018 and its virtually fucking impossible to accurately track all my trades... doing my goddamn head in
>inb4 say you lost your crypto >inb4 cointracking (its fucking shit and still requires manual input of all my trades)
I've got to do this legit as I want to cash out and buy a house eventually
fuuuuuu anons this is so goddamn annoying... I'm just going to supply rough estimates which is STILL going to be hard af due to running masternodes and investing in ICOs
What happens if I am submitting losses? Do I have pay? for example, buying the ICON ICO then trading it all for Chainlink only to have the entire market shit itself, technically I went from a high ICON price to a high CL price (taxable event) then had my CL shit the bed... will I have to pay taxes on this? being procrastinating over this for months and months putting it off but now its crunch time and the deadline is approaching
Someone sent 12,000+ bucks to various wallets and binance through coinbase, well under the 20k reporting trigger... is there a way for the IRS to nail that person regardless?
That person has nothing but losses but would still rather not deal with this shit. Crypto tax sites are also ultra unaffordable expensive for the number of trades made.
They probably won't care at that amount but if they discover it the IRS will send you a letter saying we've determined you owe x amount in taxes from y, please pay.
Nathan Williams
get an accountant dude
Ryder Baker
>December 2017 buyer >you owe taxes >owe
There's nothing for them from this year.
Jacob Wright
Aussie here, I used cointracking.info. It took me weeks doing about 2-4 hours a day manually adding trades to make everything add up. I kept exchange date from bittrex, poloniex etc luckily and added it all in and filled in the missing trades manually + followed a trail of transactions using etherscan. It was a fucking headache but now that its up to date I just add trades as I go now to avoid having to do it in bulk again. I'll give you some more details on how I got everything working if you're interested after I eat some dinner. It ain't so bad once you get your head around how to use the software properly.
Nathaniel Walker
muslim niggers who want your family dead get the money you give to your government
Levi Green
>buying the ICON ICO then trading it all for Chainlink only to have the entire market shit itself, technically I went from a high ICON price to a high CL price (taxable event) then had my CL shit the bed... will I have to pay taxes on this? If you still have your linkies then you can't deduct unrealized losses. You'll owe taxes on the full amount of the ICON ICO to when you traded it for CL.
If you sold then any loss you realized would be counted against the first gain.
David Williams
Look out there's a hero among us
>He wants to live a normal existence free from government harrassment
I lived off my crypto gains last year cashed out 55k
I got one but he isn't going to sought through disjointed trades, I didn't even make shit all off trading it was all investing and holding
Will have to do something arduous like this I guess
My main concern is will I have to pay tax on my crypto to crypto trades which the ATO recommends
Camden Phillips
Unfortunately yes, but my OCD forced me to do things so fucking accurate my crypto log of 3 years with over 40k trades adds up so precisely that it calculates current holdings value correct down to the cent and single satoshi. I had a 8k tax bill last year but this year I should get a nice refund. Using cointracking is tax deductible too.
I'm doing this legit now in case I get randomly audited in 5 years and have none of my shit organised and they bill me for shit I cant prove. I made the mistake of cashing out multiple lots of cash throughout the year so I have no choice but to because all major exchanges including BTC Markets rat you out to the ATO if you withdraw over 10k.
Jaxon Walker
First time paying taxes. Do I have to report my crypto? What happen if I don't? I only make 12k a year. Part timer.
Kayden Jenkins
>I lived off my crypto gains last year
>I didn't even make shit all off trading
well which is it
Jace Hill
You do have to pay tax on crypto to crypto trades, I called the ATO to confirm because initially I thought you could just pay tax on what you withdraw minus what you put in. It's a fucking headache, if you don't have old exchange data, and wherever the fuck you bought crypto with AUD e.g. BTC Markets shows a trail to Bittrex for example, just make a few bullshit trades with historical values in the tool you're logging with to make it look believable until it adds up to whatever you're currently using for an exchange and for wallets. Don't forget to use the correct fee's. I know people say the ATO don't have the manpower to look through all this shit I was told they have software that compares historical data and a bunch of other factors. You can also just fill in all of what you possibly can to come to a reasonable outcome for what you gained/lost and this is also acceptable if you lost past years data. Again this is what I heard from someone at the ATO themselves so its your call if you believe it or not.
I would just get it out of the way if I was you, was a fucking weight off my shoulders once I finished it. They changed the guidelines of what the tax implications were early last year which means a lot of people are fucked to produce the correct data as most simply didn't have a clue what they needed to log.
Connor Smith
It was from appreciated gains over months I wasn't day trading so theoretically I made only 5-10 profitable trades IE buying 100 Ethereum at $42 the reinvesting in 30 eth in 3 different icons then cashing them all in for CL in feb-march 2018
I will be doing this in the coming days, ironically if they want to audit me they are welcome because it's all on the blockchain kek
Essentially I went from 4k, to 30k, some trades at the top of the market when I had 700k, then all into CL currently at 1xx,xxx k... I'm guessing I owe about 50-70k tax, fucking kill me
Christopher Young
Where are you Aussies cashing out your earnings? Have you had any problems with banks freezing accounts due to large amounts (I’ve seen forum posts on this)
Aaron Roberts
can the IRS track your transactions on the blockchain easily? Surely it would be a huge head ache
Isaac Russell
>not buying $1000 of ether off a friend in september 2017 and investing it into Confido ICO and selling at $1.30 >Not 100xing on shitcoins riding it out >not all ining stinky link with the little $ u had left after the bear cuck >not having 40k Linkies that the government will never know about.
KEK
Adam Wood
>bitcoin.tax >import coinbase >import binance >export bitcoin.tax to turbotax easiest tax file of my life
Michael Reyes
Just put in what you can, you think they're going to figure all that shit out for you just to prove you wrong? Highly doubt they'd go through all that unless we're talking several 100k of profits here.
Nicholas Evans
Ausfag here. They’ve made it plain that you pay tax when you convert back to AUD
Caleb Miller
Is it a big deal if the gross amount on the coinbase 1099 is like 0.2% above your transaction totals from bitcoin.tax? First time I've had to file like this and it's driving me nuts. I just imported it like you're supposed to, maybe it's just a rounding error or something.
Chase Powell
113 self employment tax on 800$ as a contractor. What the fuck kind of kikery is this shit, I want even lower taxes. 39 dollar refund (but that's because I took out withholdings altogether). Made 9500 including the 800 work.
Made about 2 more grand than last year, and I just got another job starting at the end of the month. Still only 11.30/HR. Expecting to make 2 grand more this year, so around 11.5k-13k in 2019.
I fucking hate being a college student with only an associate's in accounting.
I've being cashing out on local bitcoin it's being great the money appears in my account with nothing crypto related
They've also made it clear as day that crypto to crypto trades are a taxable CGT event
question: do you think they'll ever be able to get ahold of my binance transactions?
Christopher Rodriguez
Can't you get someone round to look and verify trades? Surely they must have someone at the tax office that is somewhat knowledgeable about tracking crypto trades.