>tfw another fucking headline about how millennials hate capitalism, a system that allows them to start business and make money
Are millennials just stupid or too economically illiterate to invest and start their own businesses?
Fucking seriously. This is why entrepreneurship should be taught in high school onward. So we don't have so many entitled little young shits who realize the way capitalism works is you don't have to work for capitalism, you can make it work for you.
This isn't even true. All millennials I know or are friends with are all capitalist.
Stop believing in the liberal media. They are trying to make you polarized and defeatist. The Jews are unironically ruining this country but a large portion of us are awake to tricks like this. Stay strong.
>prejudiced conspiracy theories
fuck off with this shit and try to have a conversation that doesn't involve using an ethnic/religious minority as a boogie man
fuck off to reddit
a small percentage of millennials became successful, the rest work in retail/service with 10s of thousands in debt that they won't pay off for 20 years. and you wonder why they have business and love socialism, they're working poor.
>be boomer
>have everything handed to you by a government that spends massive sums of money via cold war era investments in the military industrial complex and has a 90% marginal tax rate
>hate socialism
>They work in business and earn money
>Somehow they hate a money economy
And people say millennial entitlement is a myth
Besides did you ever think that millennials might not have that shitty ungrateful attitude if they just started an index fund, bought stocks, and started their own businesses?
All things that millennials can actually do if they're smart and patient, because that's how capitalism works. Socialism rewards only the lazy and unambitious.
I work in STEM and make 120k/yr @30 you greasy nigger, everyone else my age works at a grocery store
Oh yes a system that pretty much forces you to be a slave, I wonder why people are starting to get fed up of that shit.
>b-b-ut just start a business!
Oh yes user why don't you take a loan and start a business, most businesses fail before generating revenue, so most likely you'll just have to repay the loan with interest while you're forced to be a slave, that's so nice.
Capitalism is competition, it's a nice feeling when you crush others and you're on top, it sucks when you're not on top or when you don't actually want to crush others.
Yea fuck you.
>They're forced to work a shit job for someone else for a shit pay
>Somehow they hate a money economy
No fucking shit
So you're saying you hate money that you earn, knowing both the necessities and luxuries that money can buy you? That's kind of fucked up and self loathing.
Even weirder that you seem to hate your own hard work when you should feel a sense of reward and accomplishment. But that's just how lazy and entitled people are I guess.
Unless they are landlords or own their own business their not capitalists, they're just bootlickers
Your mind is getting JEWED by the media. Millennials are hardcore capitalists, it’s only the loud minority you see spouting communism on tv and news interviews.
>Be grateful for the opportunity to slave for someone else
nah. Pic related is you btw
I hate this whole consumerism bullshit of a society that is propagated because of capitalism.
I don't give a shit about the latest smartphone or the latest video game or the latest luxury you like to masturbate on to impress your 'friends' or your neighbors.
I love working hard for myself, I hate working hard for fuckers like you who only give a shit about themselves, who don't give a shit about others and for whom anything is justified as long as it generates them a profit, who destroy everything that's good and genuine in this world, their greater ideal is money, more money, money money money, at all costs. Fuck. You. If you had started a business and failed you would be forced to be a slave for someone else while repaying your loan with interest, then you wouldn't be making this thread. Oh what's that you didn't have to take a loan you had your parents' money available? Must be nice to live up there in your castle in the clouds while shitting on everyone else.
>the one system where the government doesnt make you do government-mandated work
>slavery
Abort yourself
>He is falling for leftypol raids and leftist media
Honestly though this leftypol shit has been shilled hard AF the last month.
>the one system where the government
stopped reading there dumbass.
>there should be no elected group deciding the laws!
>it should be TOTAL anarchy, so the gangs can run my neighborhood!
Go back to Honduras. Anarchy only works in homogeneous high IQ communities and those don't exist anymore.
not an expert but I have a thought so bear with me. the free market allows people fair chance in competing for resources. naturally some will become quite successful and start big companies, but the rest will be working shitty jobs, that's just how it is and we all accept it that the best of the best will come on top all the time and the rest will always be at the bottom. now when you have a system like that, it's easier for people at the top to accumulate more and more wealth so basically more wealth is redistributed to those who are already on top, thus widening the divide between the rich and poor. as time goes on, this only becomes more prominent due to the efficiency of the free market. so it's not unreasonable that as time goes on, more and more people will get upset at the system.
kinda like what social media did to the dating dynamics, making sexual selection more efficient so the 80-20 rule became even more prominent in our society.
Laws are one way for a group of people to exert control and force on everyone else, if you go too much against the status quo you risk imprisonment or death. Democracy is a sham, people's voices aren't heard, it's just a few running the show. We can send information across the globe in seconds, we can communicate with each other, oh what great things we could build with that tool. But instead thanks to the governments in place we are forced to compete and most of us are forced to be slaves. It's hard to see how things could be different when you've been indoctrinated your whole life to believe that the status quo is the best possible world. Deep down many people in gangs are not savages, they rebel against this bullshit system, they want to feel like they're their own masters. We see the atrocities commited by the drug cartels, which wouldn't exist in the first place if there weren't laws prohibiting people from using drugs which allow them to momentarily escape from their miserable existence, which is made miserable in great part by the system in place.
Yes exactly, also what does it take to come on top? Often to be ruthless, to not care about others, to have the desire to crush others, sociopaths are rewarded, and then they're the ones ruling you and that you have to work for, then why are we surprised the world is going to shit?
I too am sorry that life is not fair. The idea of capitalism is that it allows the opportunity for people to raise themselves up rather than for everyone to be pounded down to the same level. Again, life is not fair and I could have been born blind where I would have limited extrinsic value, which is why there are some justifiable systems of social welfare, but instead I have the opportunity to better myself and find my own station even if the reality is defined as "slaving" for someone else; you want out of that reality? Go live in the wilderness.
This I also find true and is a flaw that civilization always seems to run into - aggregation of power.
Live in the wilderness is the answer. Our founding fathers envisioned a system where individuals fended for themselves. As time goes on you should use capitalisim to become sustainable
>Deep down many people in gangs are not savages, they rebel against this bullshit system
The African and South American countries with less police and less legal protection have MORE gangs and murder and drugs and rape, not less. You grew up in a white neighborhood and it shows. I grew up in Cincinnati. Your system will get everyone you love killed, you cant fix niggers.
The problem I see with this is that civilization has (ostensible) benefits for the individual, but as the civilization grows it in turn becomes intolerant of individual (seperate from the group) reasoning, and ultimately becomes detrimental to the individual. The trial of socrates is a prime example in my mind.
I think you can fix niggers. But they need a cost free option. Where are the poor neighborhoods of white people that have low crime and everybody is happy?
Appalachians, Ukraine, Poland, Estonia.
Live in the wilderness until someone comes and say that you live on his land, and that he'll call the police on your ass if you don't leave? Or that you need money to buy his land, and that to get money you need to slave away for others?
Why wouldn't school teach us to take care of ourselves, to build our own house, to grow our own food? Instead it teaches us to be dependent on the system in place, on others.
Also, live in the wilderness until capitalism catches up to me with its deforestation and destruction of the environment? Such a nice world we're living in.
That seems to be because the ruling classes need to blame groups to enact changes that fuck over individuals
I don't think it's a "flaw" really but just the way things "are". it is built into our nature, every living organism competes because we just have to to survive. the more power you have, the easier it is to acquire more power, and if you have the opportunity to increase your power, you're very damn sure your survival instincts will kick in and you'd take the opportunity.
You have to slave to some degree. But if you are content with less you can get ahead. Get a trailer home and buy some land
Belarus, every flyover state, The Balkans, Lithuania
Amish Pennsylvania, Meninite Ontario. Basically every rural area on Earth
There's also this place called the afterlife which I have personally heard good things of. A lot of people say it is only good people there too. Things never change there apparently.
You give the system too much credit. Why don't you be a teacher and attempt to teach these things yourself, that seems to be weighing you down. Or hell, talk to a (good)teacher.
I'm right there with you, and there are many others who see the "wrongness" of the world in ways you do and can do more than sympathize, they can help you change the world to be how you want it (within reason).
I see it like this: when there's no system around, some individuals create one to the betterment of the immediate community. if the system makes sense, and is implemented right, the community will reap the benefits. since it's working right, the controllers or operators of the system become bigger in number because the community prospers and grows. it becomes easier to preserve the system once it gets powerful enough and that's why it "turns around" and becomes hostile towards individuals, because at the end of the day any system can break down so in order to preserve itself it has to use as much power as it can to subdue the community so that never happens. it's a tricky phenomena.
My studying has lead me to believe we have been duped to believe in some type of authority ( for better or worse) for the past 2000 years for systemic reasons more than personal reasons.
Many 'niggers' have accomplished great things, because they didn't grow up in an environment that gave them zero chance. When you feel too oppressed, you kill yourself or you lash out. We like to blame the people rather than the system itself. As if the system was perfect, and people act bad because they're bad, not because they're the product of a bad system.
Yeah ultimately depends on what you think "ought to be" or what human ends are (if that is a valid question).
Thanks for the conversation. I think in evaluating socioeconomic systems in an individual context is most important or else we run the risk of domesticating ourselves into cattle farms I fear. Capitalism is the best (in principle) I am aware of with the individual in mind
same. at the end if we REALLY want to understand what's going on we have to dig deeper than just theory and understand who we really. ultimately I think capitalism is not so much a "system" but our way of modeling the way we compete, just like certain sciences model certain phenomena. the way things are is because that's how reality operates, and reality is fair.
Why are there so many fucking boomers on Jow Forums? Most of Jow Forums doesn't even like capitalism. It's all globohomo debt.
It's hard to change the world when the world is not listening. Everyone's fighting to survive, all day long slaving away then numbing their mind with mindless entertainment in their free time to forget about their condition. People can't listen because of the way things are. I think the first step would be changing education so that kids learn to take care of themselves and depend on themselves rather than learning to become efficient pawns in a flawed system on which they depend to survive. Starting an alternative school. But then to do that you need people and you need time, I can't do it all on my own.
FPBP
Either whine about "the world" being indifferent or become the change you want.
Truth.
t. 27 years old.
why not? it's true
>Ukraine
>safe
Come on, m8. Appalachia is a wasteland of opioid abuse and alcoholism for the same reasons blacks are killing each other over territory. We going to pretend the Sicilian or Irish mafia didn't exist when they inhabited inner cities? Whites are generally more self destructive than other races. Inward rather than outward.
>t. Jew
Based
Pretty much all millennials are capitalist outside of things like healthcare, prisons, and public infrastructure
Indeed we compete, but we could also HELP each other, bring each other up. We can help others when we can depend on ourselves and take care of ourselves, not when we're fighting to survive. If we aimed our efforts in that direction, used technology to help people rather than to enslave them and to come on top at the expense of others, we would have a much different world where we wouldn't be competing against each other, but working together to give each of us a better life. Then once we all have a decent life and not have to fight against each other to survive, we could actually start to move forward as a species, exploring ourselves and the universe. Instead it feels like we're all on the way to destroying each other.
>just start your own business you lazy brat, it's easy!
stupid fucking boomer advice, most of us realize that a high % of new businesses fail in under a year and you need a very good unique idea.
not everyone can be a bezos
DAY OF PILLOW WHEN
Where’s your bag of gold?
>"I hate this whole consumerism bullshit of a society that is propagated because of capitalism."
>"I don't give a shit about the latest smartphone or the latest video game or the latest luxury you like to masturbate on to impress your 'friends' or your neighbors."
>"I truly believe I was born in the wrong time period, and my soul yearns for something more than the latest coffee table or Britney Spears album or whatever pop "artist" is popular these days"
Why do you assume anyone who is okay with capitalism or benefits from it is a boomer? You're just backing up the silly idea that there are no millennial business owners or investors
I don't whine, I have explained why people don't listen, and what I see as a first possible step to changing things.
Britney Spears is retro now. She isn't popular except as an artifact of nostalgia.
Lotta targets on Jow Forums right now. Didn't see a discernible reason for it all jumping at once.
Nigger, I run one on the side while working for a company in FinTech. Why do you assume compliance means moral, philosophical, or intellectual agreement? You'd think silicon valley would clue in you retarded boomers that they're not one in the same. What do you think their political views generally are?
Even if you're 17 or 70, anyone repeating the shit OP said is a boomer in spirit.
>Oh yes user why don't you take a loan and start a business, most businesses fail before generating revenue, so most likely you'll just have to repay the loan with interest while you're forced to be a slave, that's so nice.
Only a fucking idiot would think they have to take a loan to start a business. No wonder those businesses fail- they're started by idiots.
Use your brain for once and think of something you can start small without a loan.
THERE SHOULDN'T BE BILLIONAIRES IN THIS WORLD. BILLIONAIRES ARE ALL EVIL SCUM THAT FUCK OVER THE POOR. ITS BEEN PROVEN SO MANY TIMES!!!!
Are millennials seriously just morons who hate money and having the right to make it?
and there is the kike
lmao
Why do people assume that working and making money for yourself is the best and only good way to do things? Look around you and tell me the system is working for most people. capitalism sounds great in theory... but considering most people are too stupid/lazy/uneducated through no fault of their own, I think we should take all of this into account. In the real world capitalism only works for a few people and we should be looking for the way to maximize quality of living for everyone. If your counter argument is going to be tell people to stop being lazy or entitled, well fuck you we have tried that and that is not happening obviously.
Because they are poorer than their parents.