What is the best college major?

Engineering in a stream of the physical sciences.

>engineering geologist
>160k + superannuation
>work half the year due to remote sites

It's like being given the cheat codes to life.

>they don't know about milking a minor injury in your 20's for a lifetime of neetbux
kek

>geology
If I was going to go back to school on the GI bill and become a productive member of society, this is something I would be into. Physical sciences are based af and probably not nearly as pozzed up as tech.

That's a $70k per year job. Fuck outta here lmao

>looks up average salary on google
Oh nononono

Maybe you were thinking of petroleum engineers?

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>puremath+cs double major
Wtf does the pure math major contribute to aside from your reasons for being a virgin?
High level math does add value unless you go into some shit like machine learning / data science, but for the real top-paying jobs that get hyped to normies beyond regular software engineering, you typically need a doctorate

>Wtf does the pure math major contribute to aside from your reasons for being a virgin?
I am dying

You guys don't realize that a 'disability rating' in the military rarely has any connection to real injuries. Sometimes it does, but in 90% of cases, you just get tested for sleep apnea, complain about back / knee pain, fail your hearing test on purpose, etc, and the government pays you $1000/month for no reason.

I have a military friend who has a 100% disability rating and gets paid $3000/month for nothing. He's literally the most in shape and healthiest person I know.

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spoken like a true computer scientist, this is someone we all should take advice from.

Chemical engineering

I work in the Australian mining industry. Im i geotechnical engineer but i just said eng geo so people knew what it was straight away. My 160k is in aussie dollars so about 125k usd. I literally work half the year and the job is lit as a motherfucker.

Damn sight better than cubicle work for 80k though pumping out lines of code for some schmuck though.

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None of the are any good, wages have stagnated too much. Not even CS degrees or engineering are worth it, you'll be making half what boomers did when they graduated HS for that same job.

Competitive Underwater Basketweaving. You will get all the women.

Political Science

The best move right now is not to play.

This, I get 2k a month

My god

Industrial Engineering. Minor in CS. You’ll be a god everywhere. Personally I did this and went into business consulting, now technical consulting. I’m in my mid 20s and making bank and can go wherever I want in my career. Tbh just keep learning after college (I learned tons of programming outside of school just through personal projects) and you’ll be valued so much more then normies in your major.

As someone who majored in math and minored in CS I can fully attest to this user being correct.

Math has done nothing for me except make me incel. If I had just eased up on studying and done CS instead, gotten a good job, had a moderate and balanced lifestyle, I could have been happy and with many hot gfs

Instead I kept beating myself up for not being better at math and all it did was send me down a rabbit hole of virginity and self hatred. And all my knowledge is basically useless now

Man. Econ.

math PhD 100k year starting salary

It depends on what you like/are good at. General ranking in terms of job stability/good pay would be something like:
1. Medical Doctor/Dentist/Optometrists etc
2. Other medical specialists, especially with the aging population. Things like Nurse, Physiotherapist, etc
3. Software dev. Despite what you read here, it is absolutely no where near over saturated

Starts to become more of a toss-up here

4. If you could see yourself doing it, a trade. Welder, electrician, plumber, etc. You will out earn a majority of college grads, be more in demand, and can work after 1 or 2 years of trade school, or sometimes you don't even have to go. 100k is pretty easy once you are a Journeyman.
5. Harder Commerce degrees. Finance, Accounting, Econ. Although long term future outlook is poor for these due to automation. Good for medium/short term.
6. More niche engineering, like Mining Engineering, Petroleum Engineering, Industrial, Electrical is still big. NOT chemical or civil
7. The shittier engineering programs
8. Brainlet business degrees like management, marketing, hr, international development, etc are easy as fuck and still have quite a few jobs, but don't pay amazing
9. Math/Physics, mostly because you can transition out of science and into finance or cs
10. Other physical sciences Geology, followed by Chem (quite a bit worse than geo)
11. Life sciences with all the other wannabe med school failures

The rest are mostly meme degrees outside a couple that can be okay-ish like graphic design so don't even bother

What about lawyer or police? I was thinking about majoring in forensic science, is that a meme degree? Should I just become a nurse?

Also what about an actuary? Do you think those jobs will be automated like accountants?

What about pharmacy? Also what would you recommend studying in undergrad, assuming you wanted to go to med school but not sure if you're smart enough?

I would not choose forensic science personally. My first degree was Chem, and forensic science while definitely more applicable to the job in particular would likely be very limiting for a job that is quite rare desu. You'd learn the foundations in Chem, and would also be able to transition those to the greater market.

For police, it depends where you live, so can't speak much on that. Where I live, you can go to a 2-year tech school for it, but it's a complete waste of time. The police force just values real world experience and any semi-relevant work experience. Law is still good (actual law school not pre-law) but it is going downhill. Automation is killing a lot of the legal work, and depending on your own skills can be very lucrative or quite bad.

Actuary is pretty solid, and much safer than accounting. The higher the degree of uncertainty/ambiguity to your job the safer you will be. That, and any sort of human/emotion factor (nurse, teacher, therapist etc)

Pharmacy is also pretty good in terms of job stability. But keep in mind it is a lot of schooling and debt, for a job that doesn't pay too well. Look at average salaries for pharmacists where you live. Around myself, they are hardly breaking 100k for all that opportunity cost. Very good employment though.

For med school, again, look at what your med schools accept, and if they are picky or not. I'd highly recommended against Biomed/biochem if you can, as those are insanely saturated by med-school failures. Biomedical engineering would probably be ideal, or any other degree if you can, some med schools don't really care.

Like I said, a nurse is a guaranteed good paying, secure job, as soon as you graduate. But you have to be the right kind of person to be able to be a nurse, and it is hard work. I'd be a shit nurse.

The fag in this thread are too dumb to understand how well those two disciplines complement each other.

The solid grasp of abstract algebra and higher mathematics that Pure Maths gives you makes navigating all sorts of esoteric CS topics super easy. I'm thinking of cryptography, machine learning, and so forth.

Spoken like a true brainlet.

Was your major "Maths" or "Pure maths"? They aren't exactly the same thing by the way. You wouldn't understand if you went to a second tier program.

Do I have any hope of getting a similar job as a mech engineer?

Becoming a pharmacist can take almost 7 years of school, but job security is good.

If you want to go to med school try to go to a school with a premed program. You'll probably finish undergrad with a BS in Biology, which is meh, but you will be prepared for Med School or to move on to a Physician's Assistant program.

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Anything but STEM or humanities

is accounting a good degree?

This is my fucking place. Get my 4 year degree. Go in as an officer, make sure I talk to my doctor. After I get out I’m claiming shit left and fucking right. Get 100% disability. Easiest 3k per month, cut property tax, cut federal tax, wife and kids get free college, free family insurance for the rest of our lives, and if I ever plan on starting a business the fucking government will give...GIVE me 25k. You would be a ducking moron not to take this. You know what’s even crazier, there are cops, EMTs, fire fighters and hazard labor jobs with employees that are 100% VA disability and they can’t be fired because of it. Insane.

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Is Architecture and Construction Management a good degree?

who is this? I reversed searched and couldn't find her.

get plc certificates, start working as maintenance technician, learn cpp, join into industrial automation company and you'll be in project chef in 5~7 years making more than any of the engineers earn. You'll have tremendous headstart. If you want management roles, just take more courses get more certificates. Once you get your first job diploma becomes worthless.

>pharmacist
But you have an incredibly boring job if you go retail. And the research route doesn't appeal to most.

> Automation is killing a lot of the legal work, and depending on your own skills can be very lucrative or quite bad.

Explain. i dont see how you could automate a defense attorney.

Is a degree in International Business while learning a second language a meme?

That depends on if you have the talent and dream to be in a certain profession or not. Physicians do make higher salary and have more prestige than electricians but, at the end of the day, if neither of them have learned to invest effectively: they're constrained by proportionately equal amounts of debt slavery and therefore make as much money as the other.

If electrical wiring is something you'd consider more enjoyable to work with than arteries, by all means, be an electrician. Learn to invest in real estate and build up passive income-generating wealth and you'll be considerably richer than a physician, as well.

Only if you plan on getting your CPA, which leads to a well paying but soul crushing career.

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And veterans complain about not enough gibs.

Defense attorneys are only a small portion of employed lawyers

Finance and business, because it'll show you how to invest your money and you'll stop falling for stupid crypto scams.

>Law is still good (actual law school not pre-law) but it is going downhill.
150k debt. if you can get a scholarship for a full ride, then go for it. otherwise there are other factors to consider. top tier schools then yes you can expect 70-100k employment right from law school. otherwise you're looking at 50-60k range from law school and slowly working up.
>Automation is killing a lot of the legal work, and depending on your own skills can be very lucrative or quite bad.
This will happen within the area of transactional law for the most part, writing contracts, etc will be a thing of the past. Civil litigation (criminal + personal injury)- that's what our legal system is mainly fed off of, the tendency of humans to act in barbaric and idiotic negligent ways. There will be a continued demand for these types of jobs, but attorneys will catch the music to it. Expect these fields to be even more saturated within the next decade.
This.
Attorneys for smart contracts will be a new phenomena. Because we are asking how do we interact within the digital world. Our entire user interface has dealt with questions of copyright, trademark and patent law, which the law has developed (DMCA, Fair Use Act), and it seems it created some demand for people who are on technologically savvy. However, now with the backend revolution coming along, well it's much more harder to predict. The attorney that focuses on this field, must have an understanding of how tech operates, securities, international law, contract law. I think there will be a huge demand for these types of attorneys within the next 5 years. It's a long term hold.

computer and electrical engineering with background in finance and history/linguistics.

Take the pharmaceutical research field (clinical trials) pill.

I know two people that semi do this.

My uncle. He was in Kuwait and a bomb damaged his hearing. But he stayed as a recruiter for the army. Eventually he retired at around 40 and makes 150k sitting on his ass.

Other is an old friend. One of the most depressing mother fuckers to talk to. He was in Iraq and Saw a lot of shit. I'm not sure what happened to him but he was discharged and gets a pension. He spends his days living alone in Lubbock Texas drawing military themed anime lolis. He's actually really talented. Since he knows how to draw guns, military gear, and tanks. He doesn't even share his art. But I'll see if I can find some of it.

But yeah. Both of these cases are pretty miserable.

>He was in Iraq and Saw a lot of shit.
what kind of shit?

ChemE is constant suicide fuel

Source. This looks like a fetish I could be into.

It depends on the language

Computer Science or Computer Engineering. Computers and robots are taking over.

The actual lawyering part is still fine. However, a lot of a lawyers job was exploratory work; searching large sources of data for discrepancies, combing through old case law, etc. A lot of this work is being greatly reduced by automation

If you aren’t good at math then do something business related. If you don’t know exactly what to do then do marketing but make damn sure you have stuff brewing in the caldron. Whether it’s a brand/product of your own. You will unironically learn more by launching your own product than you will in school.

t. Started accessories company freshmen year in college and the knowledge I have gained from that has been priceless. You will literally learn nothing in college. Make sure you get that shiny piece of paper at the end though just to prove you are better than the other idiots

Paralegals usually do that work though

Oof might as well transfer to English at that point. Or just skip ahead with suicide

Math didn't make you an incel, retard. You did that to yourself.

He said he was in some explosive blast while storming a house and his friend got impaled in the neck with debris. His friend lived and was even joking about it while it happened.

>knee pain
So they giving you free oxy too

Wtf why?

He's memeing but many CS majors already do a math minor. So it's not unique.

Would a double major be better?

Software Engineering
Electrical Engineering
Business Information Systems

Best all 3 somehow merged into one.

This. Testing monkey for pharma is pretty good choice.

Computer science
Don't even @ me, computer engineering majors. You work more, get paid more, and need to think more to do your job, but we get nice cozy offices and hipster startup culture with free beer on fridays. You work in dumpy, depressing facilities lit with florescent lighting and filled with pajeets. Get lost

What are you going to be doing with it? But take a look at this guy's post

youtube influencer or applied gender studies

Accounting, there doesn't exist a more versatile field of work.

Amazing tier = great job with 70k plus starting guaranteed after college
Engineering, CS

Ok tier = decent office worker job with starting at 30-40k guaranteed if you don’t fuck it up
Econ, buisness

Shit tier = either go for PhD or enjoy starbucks
Philosophy, psychology

Community College diplomas, uniroinically.

for

Lol.

I went to caltech. Your move chief.

Surprising to see this thread still up frankly.

Eh, maybe. But it unnecessarily nuked my confidence while giving me no meaningful real world skills. I constantly felt like a brainlet for years and spent those years on a treadmill of studying random useless crap and not giving myself any leeway/rest. I kept telling myself once I understood everything I would enjoy life...once it helped me make $$$...but that day never came.

After 1.5 years of no fap no sex , studying as hard as I could, lifting and doing all the meme self improvements as hard as I could, I had a nervous breakdown. What remains is the shell that’s posting here

You have to understand, higher level math is an endless, and I mean endless, rabbit hole. It doesn’t have any meaningful usage in the real world; whatever you need you can

Trying to enjoy life rn but I’m too brOken and feel like I failed. Don’t know if I’m ever gonna recover. Maybe if there’s a crypto bull run soon

Did you finish the degree?

Yes. At great cost. But I also had other major health issues (permanent injuries) during it that were very difficult to cope with knowing they were permanent. I really should have dropped out and done a business or something, but I never would have been able to live with myself for quitting

What's a good degree for a 28 year old fuck up?

What’s stopping you from getting a software engineering job?

I’m not interested in being a neutered wageslave after everything that I sacrificed. Just gonna crypto neet and contribute to protocols as I see fit.

Does anyone seriously find this attractive

The whole point of college is to get a job though

I viewed college as an avenue for intense self improvement, for building myself into something superior. I took that line of thinking too far for my own good, combined with the most intense academic environment on the planet and no attractive girls it was a disaster . Anyways I’m out have fun circllejerking and pretending to be smart you brainlets.

i feel and think similar about my education. during elementary and highschool i kept myself motivated with
> if you some day study at a university you'll learn the interesting stuff, you'll be able to do meaningful things, will be respected and wealthy
now a have a degree which is fine but also major health issues. can't run properly anymore and feel like 60yo. most old people outperform me. i'm always ill (influenza) and doctors send me away (free health care is a meme in my country). i wish i had learned taekwondo and opened a martial arts school. :'(

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probably chemical engineering

are a chem engineer?