If your parents are over 50 and did not make it financially they are literally retarded and lazy and you should have no sympathy.
>Be 1982 >Mom graduates college with a whatever degree from an okay college >Takes night classes in accounting >Not even a CPA level experience >Gets $120,000/yr starting with full pension and healthcare and childcare with potential up to $200,000/yr in 4 years with 40 hour weeks. No student loans because of a summer job. >At 24 >2019 >To be a CPA (more than what she was) you NEED to have a degree in accounting and 2-4 years of actual work experience after college and median salary for a new CPA is like $70,000/yr >Pull yourself up by your bootstraps user it's easy look what I did.
>Saves up for just two years >Pays off entire cheap ass house with no mortgage in that time equivalent of 100k in today's dollars. >2019 >Same house is now worth $600,000
Levi Roberts
>what are outsourcing >what is illegal immigration >what are women in the work force doubling >what is population overall doubling in the same period
Stop blaming people for the economic consequences of globalization they had no control over themselves.
Women were going to public schools and even colleges since the late 19th century
Low population, low employment rate of half the population (women), little outsourcing and limited black market labor ("undocumented immigrants") meant that an individual domestic worker was worth more then than it is now. The fact you presumably understand this sort of thing when it comes to inflation of the US Dollar or Cryptopcurrencies and not when it comes to other commodities is why you're not going to make it.
> muh angry white male narrative > reee dey took er jerbs
I bet you also unironically quote Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris to your family.
> yikes
Blake Morgan
The reason boomers had it so easy was because of tight immigration control, feminism hadn't completely taken over and no free trade. This meant that there were more jobs than workers and companies couldn't import workers who would work for less.
Carter Morris
cringe af
women are property
Ryder Lopez
The first three were directly caused, amplified or perpetuated by the boomers
Justin Fisher
Women are property in the middle east and they're still a shit hole. >but if white people do it, it'll work um no sweetie, women aren't property in the west as a result of being more civilized. If you want to regress to savages you're free to move to Saudi Arabia.
Christian Turner
>Women are property in the middle east and they're still a shit hole. ME countries are shitholes because arabs are inbred retards lol
Ethan Myers
>not blaming billionaires for flooding your country with immigrants and destroying the moral order sip that champagne harder mr. shekelstein
boomer here(57) I paid cash for the house I'm in now. Also, there's a baby goat in the shower in my guest bathroom. I don't know what he's doing in there. I don't like to pry
Gavin Miller
>there were more jobs than workers like now?
Ian Roberts
Nice reddit-tier ad-hominem non-argument, retard.
Globalization did "take jerbs" and continues to do so, it also made some jerbs too.
This is a modern economic phenomenon, no matter how jet-setting stand up comedians worth millions of dollars like Doug Stanhope or the writers at South Park might want to make light of it or dismiss it. This is something that affects all workers
Black market labor drives wages down as does shifting production to countries with lower wages/weaker currencies, period. This is why most other countries have strategic tariffs in place to protect their domestic working class, their farmers and so on.
You print more money, the money already in circulation is worth less, you have access to more workers the existing workers are worth less, especially when some of these workers are playing by different rules than others.
you know those boomer car salesmen? Ever notice how some are ridiculously well off and others are stuck in the job with not much to show for it?
Let me tell you what it was like. Rewind back to the 70's 80's1 and 90's. Your chump salesman was making anywhere from 80k-100k. Your good salesman were making 100k-150k and the good ones were making anywhere from 150-250k with some freaks making more than that. Some 10% of car salesmen were making half a million a year (or more in today's dollars at a lower tax rate when everything was cheaper). These guys (if you were in the top 50%) were making more than doctors and lawyers without having to go to school. They made gross on new cars and put down payments on mansions with used car profits. The 90's to 2010 were the same but the pay didn't increase.
Your average car salesman makes 30-60k a year now depending on the region and your average new car loses a grand on the front end if you do volume and breaks even at most other stores.
People had way more money to spend, the cpi hadn't gone through the roof, and everyone was making stupid money.
The ones in management now are the boomers that stayed in. They didn't even have to be good. They just had to not die from substance abuse or make so much money that they retired at 40. If you could shake a hand and didn't have autism you could sell a car.
The entitlement from boomer car salesmen is incredible. That was one of the most lucrative professions as much as even a decade ago and most of them have nothing to show for it.
Ama about shit, I have a $25m dealership
Elijah Walker
Also this. Boomer sympathizers and apologists should get the gas first. Traitors are worse than the enemy.
Justin Gray
Cold war spending was huge. Defense and parallel industries enriched many.
Your digits are my birth year.
Henry Young
Boomer genocide now.
Clean out the 65+'s and pave the way for a new generation of Americans.
Only 65+'s that can demonstrate they have provided sufficient support and value to their offspring will be allowed to live. Any others which retained their enormous wealth to squander it on trivialities such as gambling and booze in their decrepitude, will be purged.
We cannot, we SHALL not be burdened by the generation of degenerates which looted our country and partied all the way down to hell. They will not pay...they will simply die, and go away. They had their time, they had their fun, they had their chance.
Yes, I am fully aware this wipes out a significant portion of our existing government, and that is precisely the point. They are irrelevant and stupid and cannot possibly fathom or keep up with modern technology and society. They are corrupt beyond belief and only seek to retain their position at the top of the ponzi.
No more. Never again. If you want to survive past 65+ in the future, you MUST create a trust and support for your children, equivalent to the amount of social support you will receive in turn. The exact amount you are able to provide to your FAMILY and GENETIC LINEAGE is in turn the precise amount you will receive in social support.
If you cannot meat a minimum, it's off to the pasture, for a year of R&R then a visit to the gas chamber.
Boomer Genocide Now. The movement starts here, in this thread. We ARE BGN.
What’s your age? How did you come across Jow Forums and brings you to this board?
Nolan Ross
Not that poster but Jow Forums has a lot of oldfag boomers. Many 90's anime nerds came with the initial migration from somethingawful or soon after
Daniel Brown
Hundreds of trillions hoovered into the Secret Space Program. It didn't come back.
Jonathan Gomez
Oh and childless boomers DEFINITELY get tossed into the wood chipper, feet first. Holy fuck imagine just how fucking useless they are.
Nolan Davis
I had a college professor that was born in like 1937 and he was telling us about a girl he was friends with back in the 1950's and she went to a state school and for her major she only paid ONE DOLLAR per credit. Yes, that's not a typo. For a state school in NJ. ONE FUCKING DOLLAR A CREDIT.
Sounds like you got it all figured out little guy. Good for you. Really.
Gabriel Wood
>little guy >Good for you. >Really. You could at least try to hide the fact that you're a woman who spends a lot of time on reddit
Michael Ross
Our population (almost) doubling since the 60s isn't a policy, women in the work force wasn't necessarily a policy either, rather a cultural thing. If you were alive at that time there's no way you'd imagine the idea of your girlfriend or wife working affecting your own wage or otherwise becoming a liability in the far future. Outsourcing was never "not allowed"; the world had just become more connected by that point due to the hostilities of WW2 being abated and trade between nations accelerating rapidly in ways it wouldn't have in their recent past.
I guess I'm sympathetic to an extent because Boomers didn't have the internet or social media to mobilize them or tell them what to think, they had the television networks exclusively, they were taken for the same ride that many of our generational peers are today. We just happened to fall into a different kind of social media where we can discuss the merits and demerits of ideas-all ideas-without restraint and in tandem with pictures of anime lesbians or whatever, pretty much by happenstance.
Boomers worked and voted every 4 years while the frog boiled in the pot, never thinking things could get as bad as they are now until they already were. In the end all we're doing is victim blaming, we all know it's really the GLOBALISTS' fault
jej i really can't tell if this is some bored neet baiting people or if it's a woman who literally cannot comprehend nor formulate an argument to save her life
Logan Kelly
Imports basically doibled the amount of cars being sold. More supply means more competitive pricing. Asymmetry of information decreased with the internet. shit is super competitive now. Also, regulations drive up the costs of things and people are just poorer in general. We've really felt it the last two years.
black budget, baby.
won't disclose age, but I found it in 2007 after hearing about some its antics. It sounded incredible. It felt like home as soon as I got here.
Kevin Sanders
If they invent a teleporter & cure retardation, they're useless cuz no apefuck? You better have perfect genes if you're gonna breed, or you're a degenerate.
I don't know why you're so upset, these are all just a well-documented economic phenomena of the latter 20th century.
I can't, Alexa will hear me
This is a great point. If Boomers can really be faulted for anything directly it's that they pushed their children into going to college come hell or high water despite how bad of a deal it had become. Just like the US Dollar and the US Worker, the US University Graduate's market value had become suppressed by simple inflation by the early 2000s.
Despite the fact that these schools were using government mandated loans as a springboard to charge mortgage-tier tuition rates for attendance, the eternal Boomer put enormous pressure on their children to go, often threatening to kick them out of the house and ostracize them if they didn't, even if they had shit grades in highschool or were pursuing a major that anyone with common sense could have figured out had no place in an institution of higher learning.
Now as men become disillusioned and turn to the internet for education, it's women who make up the majority of college graduates and are even going to graduate school racking up more and more impossible to repay deb as consequence and all you'll hear about is how "and it's a good thing" that women are deliberately making themselves black holes of debt.
my parents are pretty based as far as boomers go- my mom is a nurse and my dad is a marine engineer and probably the hardest working guy I know. They have also lived frugally their entire lives and have no debt, and raised me and my siblings on a small farm and homeschooled us for some time- my older siblings until around 9th grade and me until 6th grade. Even though they are clearly quite based compared to most other boomers, they basically just expected us all to go to college. I was never really taught anything about a career path or anything, i was just always expected by everyone to go to college for something. I wish someone had talked to me about what options are out there, instead of just telling me that it doesn't matter as long as i go to college after high school. I'm about to graduate with a business degree soon so I'll find out if it was worthwhile but i'm not very academic and I prefer doing stuff with my hands. Maybe becoming a craftsman or tradesman would have been a better path for me. Thanks, boomers.
I can still remember the voices of my boomer teachers in elementary school saying, "If you go to college to get a degree, you will make $1 million dollars more than a person without it!" Fuck boomers.
>If your parents are over 50 and did not make it financially they are literally retarded and lazy and you should have no sympathy.
My father has a brother and my mother a sister; each of them were orders of magnitude more successful than my parents ever were. My parents were the deadbeats of both sides of my family tree.
> My mom got insanely lucky, or sucked the owners dick on a constant basis, therefore your parents failed
Jason Butler
You can still become a tradesman after college. It'll probably pay off your debt faster desu fampai
Josiah Baker
whats that webm from?
Luis Foster
You put the blame on information technology and automation. It benefited the elite more than it benefited the average joe.
Jacob Turner
this, kek.
Dylan Gomez
i gotta watch this please spoon feed
Oliver Rodriguez
>be my dad >60s kid >start career late, he changed his career from a degree his parents forced him into >buys house with low interest mortgage in 2005 >notice arbitrage opportunity on the same road we are living in >one day we just move 20 odd doors down the road and kiddie user has no idea what's going on >it's literally the same house in a different colour >£40k more in the bank from the difference he bought the new house to the identical house he sold. Yes, some bong was this stupid to buy a house 40k more expensive that is identical to another one on the same road. >sells it for 1.5x in 2016 >100 grand profit just from doing nothing >moves to a more expensive city, buys a new house there >be 50+ >still have mortgage but slowly paying it off >has a stable job at £50k/ year >could make it with house value and looming inheritance money from quickly expiring parents >decides to get re-married and have a kid at the age of 49 >income is now lower than expenses >"pension fund" exit scammed >still working 9 hours+ per day with hardly any free time >he'll be 67 by the time the kid can move out
lmao thats so deep soz user u were so close to making it now u gotta share the remnants of your old mans wealth with a bastard child how do you not an hero?
Shut the fuck up and stop whining. You want a six figure job, learn to code. That's the difference right there, no college degree necessary.
Caleb Thompson
And now just imagine how much it must suck to be that bastard child. Growing up with a poor old dad while he knows he has half brothers who had the funny young successfull version as their dad.
Juan Martinez
Man In the High Castle.
Kayden King
>millions of people coming into the country and competing for a job wont decrease the prices
learn literally lesson 1 of any economics course increased supply decreases prices
Hunter Garcia
its supply and demand
are people trolling of do guys on Jow Forums not understand this?
Carson Bailey
well they are still a rich family. The point is he fucked up because he spends all his money on unnecessary luxuries and his wife and kid now
Brody Cox
t. nopants
Aiden Wright
Yes, that's why if you google "wages increasing" you see articles from a few months ago in late 2018 discussing the fact that wages are increasing in the largest increments they had for 9-10 years. We are on a good trajectory but these things don't happen overnight.
Juan Long
>wages are increasing in the largest increments they had for 9-10 years. Thanks Trump...
Jason Peterson
>now just imagine how much it must suck to be that bastard child. Growing up with a poor old dad while he knows he has half brothers who had the funny young successfull version as their dad.
holy fuck this hits way too close to home
t. bastard child with 8 year older half brother
To take this to the next level my mother divorced, got 1.4 mil and is broke less than 5 years later. She literally has no money, ~50k creditcard debt and owes the state a ton of money too. She was a victim of pajeet scammer tier fraud and no one wants to touch the case because technically shes just a retard and its her own fault.
Good God are you economically illiterate. All of the things you mention trend toward lowering prices for many goods which is better for the consumer. Typical make work bias. A job is not what you want, what you want is consumer good's. The job is a means to an end.
Now, our economy is fucked, but it's not because of what you mentioned. Labor is a resource and tends to make a country richer. Sure, losing your job sucks and it can reduce wages, but again in lower's prices which is what you ultimately want.
But, you're right that there is a problem. The problem is mainly due to inflation caused by fractional reserve banking, money printing, and inflation caused by QE. The other major problem is all the regulations passed by the government and unions. Those have lead to some outsourcing that wasn't beneficial to our country by increases production costs making us non competitive.
The government is what's been fucking us over with economic policy, not brown people and women.
Xavier Gomez
CPA here. I made $60,000 starting out. Seniors probably make about $80k+. Public accounting is still slavery though.
Leo Wood
t. Ayn Rand-reading retard.
Landon Cook
I think it's one of the "Dod sno" movies (both o's with a slash)
No, it's not. Multiple studies -- both historical and contemporary -- have found that immigrants are a net positive for the economy, and more importantly, they do not compete with native-born workers for jobs. The most recent such study was published by the Trump administration: nap.edu/catalog/23550/the-economic-and-fiscal-consequences-of-immigration
Logan Barnes
>immigrants are a net positive
great now that that's settled lets make sure we get the ones with the lowest IQs possible from the most violent unstable nations we can find, since immigrants are always a net positive I'm sure nothing bad will happen.
Andrew Bell
What's that saying you all get a boner for? Ah, yeah: facts don't care about your feelings
Sebastian Ramirez
this Mexican neighborhoods are known for their cleanliness, order, and quiet industriousness and slim attractive women.
Oh wait they're actually typically shitholes full of savages and fat slobs.
Typically when I go to white majority areas and small towns things are pretty nice, quiet, and clean even if people are poor. No idea what dumb point you're trying to make. >it's already flawed so what's the harm in making it worse You might be stupid, bud.
Luis Edwards
>doesn’t refute points >salty response with fake congratulations
Tyler Lopez
That's cause they can afford mexicans to clean the streets
Cooper Lopez
appreciated. Never a dull day on the lot
Benjamin Smith
I cant tell if you're pretending to be retarded.
There are a ton of studies on immigration and social cohesion/trust/crime/standards of living in general getting completely assfucked by third worlders that don't/can't assimilate. I'm not even disagreeing with the notion that immigrants can be good and don't care about this enough to point you to studies.
From personal experience I've seen many people in H.S. and college that were either simply 'going through the motions', didn't pay attention at all / sat in the back on their phones etc., or were just being pushed through for whatever reason.
It's always been one big business to me and very rarely have I ever heard of students talking about their perspectives 10 years down the road and where they'd like to be with all the education they were working on. Most of the time it was only biz students that considered those factors.
And a lot of the time the parents are either funding or taking out loans in their names too for the kids. Just a big blackhole of money.
The internet could easily eliminate the 2 of the 4 years of liberal arts we all have to take to keep some of those useless degree people employed.
Anthony Sanders
nice infos.
Juan Hall
One of the key points of the study I posted is that assimilation usually takes a generation, and others indicate that's been then standard regardless if the immigrants are from France, Taiwan, Ireland, or Tunisia. You're working with a number of assumptions that are simply incorrect.
Levi Wright
>study I posted is that assimilation usually takes a generation
right so because assimilation can happen that means it always happens.
>You're working with a number of assumptions that are simply incorrect. user this is a really interesting possibility to consider, thank you so much
Ryan Edwards
"Those who come hither are generally of the most ignorant Stupid Sort of their own Nation… Not being used to Liberty, they know not how to make a modest use of it…I remember when they modestly declined intermeddling in our Elections, but now they come in droves, and carry all before them, except in one or two Counties... .In short unless the stream of their importation could be turned from this to other colonies... even our Government will become precarious." - Benjamin Franklin on Germans. The people change, but the populist language (and the actual facts) do not.
Alexander Collins
what are you even offering this as proof of? that assimilation always happens? because benji talked shit about germans and they turned out to be alright that means its going to happen every time?
Dominic Cooper
Eh, here's my BoomerDad story
>lose like 65% of value in 401K in 2008 >move everything into "safe" assets like money markets >fast forward to 2019 >completely miss recovery