Salary Discussion

then I know I'm going to be the first to be cut when layoffs need to happen so I look for a new job somewhere else

>Outside of the US, most countries don't allow the wageslaves to discuss their salaries.
Are you joking? In my country, everyone's salary is literally public info, you can look it up online in the government websites.

>she

You don't want to discuss it with your coworkers because if you're paid more than them for the same position they will get all butthurt and resentful. I have those conversations but wont volunteer my own salary and will then just lie to stay within a couple percent of them if they ask.

>In my country
In your country, you are ruled over by Islam, Lars.

i work in tech so the assertive indian women here on visas are smarter than me and sexy as hell with hips for days. i want them to bully me and they're happy to do it.

>You don't want to discuss it with your coworkers because if you're paid more than them for the same position they will get all butthurt and resentful.
Why should they get butthurt and resentful? Wouldn't you have additional experience that justify the difference? The only reason to get butthurt is if you do the same work as them and the only reason you get more money is because you gave your boss the succ.

Really bad comeback desu

Fuck your free speech.

> t.burgerbro

>Outside of the US, most countries don't allow the wageslaves to discuss their salaries.

In Germany, you can talk freely about what you earn with your collegues.

people are shitty and the stupider someone is, the more money they think they deserve. the average person doesn't think about these things logically. either lie or don't tell them, but you should try to get their info so you can use it as leverage or as a gauge for negotiating.

People don't get paid what's fair. They get paid the least an employer can get away with. Plenty of your coworkers took an uncompetitive offer. They should be angry at themselves but people are not rational automatons and so they will transfer their resentment onto you.

that's bs, most developed countries have laws that prevent this dystopian shit from happening.
At least here in Australia I know exactly how much each cunt in my company earns including CEOs and their digusting ridiculous bonuses.

>that's bs, most developed countries have laws that prevent this dystopian shit from happening.
I would bet your life that UKstan doesn't allow the bigoted whites to discuss how much they're earning.

What even is this thread?

>"Outside the US you can't do this thing."
>But that's wrong, you can.
>"MUSLIMS"

Germany. By a court decision you cannot prevent your wageys from talking about their salary.

Believe it or not, fat Burger.

desu, everyone being able to lookup your salary is a breach of your private information, not free speech

your gubmint did it just so that the muslim machete gangs know which Swede household to enter first, machete chop off the numale Swedish males who cannot defend themselves, and then fuck their ~9 year old blonde daughters, just like Muhammad

Yes they should show bobs

>user reveals that he never actually wanted to talk about salary in the first place

>Lars is angry that he cannot talk about this anywhere

>and will then just lie to stay within a couple percent of them if they ask.

oh you are that guy...

Yep

if you don't start stepping on others to get ahead, you'll be underpaid for the rest of your life

I used to work at a paintball company. I was 14, and I’d love to play and they’d supply me with half price paint. I’d referee, clean, etc., all making $5 an hour, cash under the table.

Well, I shot the shit with my buddy about it one day, only to find out he was getting paid. Fucker made a scene about it to my boss, I got sacked at fucking 14 and he got hired

Also made me buy my uniform and wouldn’t pay us for hours when we were too slow to work

>muh constitution
how long do you think that's going to last

As long as white people are the majority of the US population.

Gotta keep the slaves divided and ignorant. If everyone is in the dark, no one knows how badly they're being fucked over and they can't organize.
Of course now that boomers killed the unions "muh SOCIALISM" and we're too "diversified" to ever ban together again, there's no hope left. Wages will stagnate until an office worker makes the same as a burger flipper. It's already happening and it cannot be stopped, now that they can just import some brown people who would work for three cents an hour and never think to complain about it.

Based AOC voter.

why would you want anybody else knowing your salary? it only benefits worthless people with shit salaries, those that actually have bargaining power gain nothing from it.

if this is something you're terrified about, as op seems to be, then you've already lost. knowing that you're getting paid nothing is going to change nothing for you.

>anti immigration
>aoc voter

Based AOC voter #2.

It is a control tactic to underpay workers

/thread

>>Why?
To prevent market/price discovery to be more correct. The sideeffect of which is wages adjusting upwards, yeah

I won't, because I know I make more than anyonr but my 2 bosses and letting people know is only going to lead to animosity or people quitting.

>Whiter than you, Mohammad: The Argument

So the conclusion - if you have more money than you should have (like you don't do something visibly more important than the rest), you shouldn't tell your salary to anyone.

Also, in the context of interwork coworker relationships its almost never a productive conversation because someone is going to be getting paid more than another despite equal workload. So if you're that guy making more you don't want to share that.

If it comes to complaints to management it could even affect your raises as the person getting paid less may get prioritized if they start grievances.

>Also, in the context of interwork coworker relationships its almost never a productive conversation because someone is going to be getting paid more than another despite equal workload
Well then, that's the point, you shouldn't be paid more if you're doing the same thing. At best, you can have 5% extra per month if there's no difference between the two of you in terms of experience or workload handling.

Good luck getting anywhere with that mindset. In life you get what you can and take it. Sometimes a company has to pay more to a more qualified (in demand) applicant, that's just how it works. Yes we end up doing similar work but your market value was less.

That's not to say the other person shouldn't be demanding their worth anyway. But I'm not going to personally deal with the drama if it's me, or potentially hurt my raise potential.

>Sometimes a company has to pay more to a more qualified (in demand) applicant, that's just how it works.
Ok but why should you get 50% extra for flipping burgers when both of you flip just as many burgers?

Because the company still profits paying me 50% more, and I would leave if I didn't get paid that much, since I have an offer from another company.

This would never happen at a burger flipping joint. I'm talking about real, white collar work places where people of radically different salary levels commonly interact, not McDonald's where everyone is getting paid $9/hr. no matter what.

Ok, let's say you both flip two reports per hour instead. Both reports are the same quality. Why should you get 50% more.

No, that's not my situation at least, I most definitely visibly do more than anyone else, thus my higher salary that I have negotiated. It doesn't change the fact that i am one of 2 men in my office, or that women are bitter, petty, and pathetic when it comes to stuff like this.

Because I'm making that and I'm not going to jeopardize future pay or my friendly relationship with my coworker and managers to help the other guy do what he should be doing himself: being qualified and demanding good pay. Skill-set is another component of salary, it may not be that I outdo him seriously in output but I was paid more due to my background and skills that will be instrumental at times that are hard to quantify. Which is why I'm not going to bother fretting over the discrepancy.

Because another company is offering me that much and I will leave if I don't get it.

If you do visibly more, you should have established dominance and the women should recognize you as the Alpha, like they do with me.

Have a This.
It's not "moral" because some happy goys could become unhappy when they find out some unproductive fucker is paid twice their salary. And they in turn could demand more.

THE UK! & apparently Germany also !

Fuck me your brainwashed!
>MUH CONSTITUTION
That thing died in 1812 when the real 13th amendment got burned.

FYI the laws in the UK & the USA are not that different...its how they get interpreted & enforced!

I know your brainwashed! I went to school in Burgerland! Your teachers & parents lied to you!
They got lied to also! The jews did a number on you guys.

> if I know someone is making 90k for a job that should only be paying them 80k
t. crab in the bucket
good goy

They do, and they are aware I make more than them, they just don't know nor need to know how much more. As the office alpha, keeping social cohesion and thus a smoother ran operation, is on me.

if you ask for a raise you're a literal KEK, and I hope your gf is not aware of that

>please BOSS give me more money please I can't make money by myself otherwise

kek
if you're worth something and valuable for the company you'll get money so that you don't leave, if not then you're doing a dogshit tier job

Are you retarded? If you never ask for a raise, they will never raise your salary, unless they're raising the minimum offered for your position. Braindead retard.

spot the nigger

Spot the racist with no race

norway you can look up anyones salary and total holdings, tax paid etc.

its common to publish salaries on public boards in the oil and gas industry.

its a very flat society with everyone having good money.

i quite like it. as a business owner i feel its best to be forward thinking. i do profit sharing with all employees, have synthetic dividends in place and feel higher salary drives innovation.

that said most norwegians are fucking lazy cunts who start crying if we have to work an hour overtime. but thats a different issue.

if you think you're underpaid then you tell them that you're switching job because you're underpaid, after having a real offer, and you see what they say if you're curious

if you think asking for money is the way to go then I hope you never have any children, because you got nothing to raise them properly, unless you want them to be cucks like you

>Baaahh, I don't know how to manage anyone and it hurts my fee-fees when they give me grief for taking away time from their family

when it affects the bottom line its relevent regardless of feelings.

then again, most businesses settle for mediocrity and dont ask more of their people. sad.

>norway you can look up anyones salary and total holdings, tax paid etc.
This is fucked up, no privacy at all