Whats your excuse for not being aesthetic?

I need someone to motivate me. Do we have a discord group for self improvement?

>he used the monohydrate version

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lmfao what, creatine doesnt make your hair fall out.

Both those faggots did roids.

ive been using the monohydrate and everything is good lol

lifting weights is retarded, and i say this as an ex body builder.

1st, its all about the face. many fugly guys are shocked when women dont start eyeing them after they hit the weights. even though, its always been about the face.
Youre mostly born with what you got. dont fool yourself into think pseudo shit like MEW'ing does anything. you either got it, or you need to get some plastic surgery done to look attractive.

2nd. your shirt covers your gains. unless youre roided, its physically impossible to have muscles that look like they buldge out the shirt.
the only other option is to be that tool that wears a muscle man shirt, which looks pretty loose on you unless you buy an extra small.

3rd. Looking anywhere near like OP's pic takes 2 years minimum. And thats if youre lucky. And that implying that guy aint already roided.

I guarantee op is faggot who just hit the gym a week ago, and is mistaking newbie gains for buldging muscles.

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I don't want to jinx it, but I've never had that effect from creatine.

agreed

>implying you dont feel better physically and mentality after a work out

general rule is once your hariline recedes its not coming back. do NOT take creatine. Stay natty.

i take creatine and none of this hair falling out shit happens

if you cant take creatine, take that as an oppurtunity to take other supps more like beta -alanine, glutamine, BCAAs or tartrate

He used creatine for a chemotherapy, what a madman.

Redpill me on roids. Worth it or not biologically? I don't care about legality.

im too addicted to walking trails atm but i need to get back to weights soon. i want to go 40 miles bizbros

I lost 45lbs over the course of a year and like how I look+feel.

My hairline hasn't receded but hair is falling out randomly from all over the scalp

I'm definitely not taking any more of that creatine shit but I'm still taking whey/bcaa

worth it if you're happy to stay on for life.

it cost a fortune and eventually kills you - that red enough for you bro

Once you're on them long term you can never go off.

It's worth it if you are in your late 40s imo

Dont listen retards, testo totally worth it. You just need to recover your testorone level after the cycle.

does anyone cycle anymore

Depends on how much you value your lifespan. If you're fine with shaving 5-25 years off of your life expectancy then go for it.

roids are fake muscle plain and simple.

the muscles you make with roids disappear as soon as youre off them; even when you workout.
real muscle is made pumping iron. And there are better supps for increasing strength quicker. roids is all for size

Test increases lifespan doesn't it?

youtube.com/watch?v=nyTOCU2UB24

I did before and all my gym bros too. Then I became addicted to speeds kek. Now I am clean and recovering my body before hitting gym again.
Show any proofs before stating something retard.

I don't know. I'm not an expert. Read some scientific studies and come to your own conclusions. All I know is that roids are extremely unhealthy and significantly increase bodybuilders' mortality rates.

autoimmune disease + multiple food allergies (I can't even fucking eat rice) = can't lift or eat enough to put on weight without having a huge problem.

Once you pop you don't stop. Nobody wants to go to sub 1k Natty test after feeling even 200mg a week cruising

You have no idea what are you talking about. Everyone using roids, no matter if its strongmans, bodybuilders or football players. The true state of Jow Forums, talk about something you have no idea.

my body is literally the only thing I have left in life. And it serves me well.

I'm 6'5 white with a decent face decent hairline, and a body on par with zyzz, although not quite as polished cause no tren.

I attend college with crypto bux but it's really just an excuse to fuck new undergraduate chicks every week. I'll be broke and sucking dick under a bridge in 6 months. But at least I have some wild stories to tell.

also, as this user said, body doesn't mean shit unless you already stand out

I see so many coping manlets walking around the gym in their stringers thinking their SARM gains will get them laid. Unfortunately, you've gotta be over 6 feet and have a decent face for it to mean anything.

got a question for you gym bros.... I tried cutting last year by reducing calories and doing empty stomach cardio every morning. I was 10-15% body fit and not as lean as I would have liked. I was thinking of starting again soon but get a lower body fat... what are the methods to get under 10% body fat? what are things I can take?

thanks,

clenbuterol

Steroids increases the size of the heart; putting it into overdrive to process the increase testostorone. Thats why so many bodybuilders die of heartattacks.

Being on roids causes indefinite damage to the heart whether you want to admit or not
>everyone on roids
Cope. if anything, steroids hit its peak in the 70s and died down. natty gains are becoming more and more popular if anything.

Also, biomedics are getting more advance thatll make steroids obsolete.

Every study on steroids shows thats muscle mass decreases once off. dont fool yourself into thinking you keep any of that permanently once off

I like lifting but the problem is like I like eating too. I can get a decent amount of muscle but I'll never be as lean as the OP pics.

The best way to cut, and maintain muscle mass is by taking L-Leucine, the main component of BCAA that goes into muscle mass and prevents breakdown of muscle.

>Cope. if anything, steroids hit its peak in the 70s and died down. natty gains are becoming more and more popular if anything
Who the fuck are you trying to fool? Yourself?

would taking BCAA be fine? or do I need to take L Leucine specifically?

what about ephedrine and caffeine? I was reading about it awhile ago

>Cope
Every professional sportsman using roids. Youre delusional if you think otherwise.
Most of the builders died to overuse of diuretics.
Thats fact that builders have bigger heart. But you should google what athlete's heart is ( or w.e its called in english)

have you never been in a body building discussion?

the first insult thrown that big guys is
>hes roided
and openly admitting to taking roids turns you into a laughing stock to any natty gainer. roid users are freaks of society

>Every study on steroids shows thats muscle mass decreases once off. dont fool yourself into thinking you keep any of that permanently once off

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BCAA is fine, since they already have have a good leucine ratio. BCAAs might be better, because the ones besides leucine have anti muscle break down properties. But i think taking leucine soley might be more effective since its the directly in charge of muscle mass, and i see a lot of people cutting take Leucine soley.

>every professional sportsman
yeah, and are sportsman are notorious living long lives? There has never been ex sportmans with major health problems?
>builders have bigger heart
there you go you ginormous faggot. (You)

Dumbass, you didn’t activate your creatine
> not reading instructions

Faggot, I said check what is athlete's heart. Natty builders have bigger heart too. Im done, you're fucking retarded.

you gain natural muscle on steroids like you normally would lifting. but the steroids induce muscle diminish.

is that too hard to understand?

Are you talking about creatine loading?

They said it was optional.

I got creatine monohydrate from jarrows

Help fren

>im done
no one wanted you here in the first place, bye

i want other people to be really unhappy when they see me. i want them to be upset that i exist.

You have no proofs of your bullshit. The true cope.

Even if you faggots are right (and you're definitely exaggerating how bad it is), we all have to do the best we can with the hand we've been dealt. Discouraging anons from lifting just because they aren't already 6ft tall natural chads isn't good advice.

Getting to that low bf% is not a good idea unless you want to have health issues and become sterile.

just take something else besides creatine you dumb faggot. like i said, take not have creatine as an oppurtunity to take daily beta-alanine or glutamine supps- both of which are linked to mass gains too.

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For every oz or creatine you have to mix with 200mL of ALKALISED water in order for muscle absorption. Otherwise it triggers an upchain biochemical pathway which leads to early male pattern baldness

that's easy tho. I'm only 185 shredded and I get scowled at by fatties eating salad while I scarf down 3 double cheese burgers

Thanks fren

I'll try that after my hair health is more or less stabilized

It wasn’t all the cocaine, molly and clenbuterol?

More people are on steroids than ever, idiot. It used to be restricted to bodybuilding and powerlifting circles, but with every Instagram wannabe, YouTube “naturals” and anti-aging clings, more everyday people are in stuff than ever.

zyzz yes
efron - he doesn't have a lot of mass, so he might not have taken any test.. or not enough to show massive gains. he was pretty jacked in neighbors and that was at least five years ago.
however he definitely took a cutting agent like
winstrol or clenbutrol which are also anabolic to get that shredded look.

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