People are sheep and I want to change that

Other OP is correct, you're in the afterglow phase.

There's a very long road for yourself and if you automatically reject what we're saying that proves our point even more.

>monetizing psychedelics

Charlatan pls GO

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You are spot on. I did not recently take anything. This has been a project I have wanted to do for some time. But I feel the dichotomy of trying to get people to think for themselves, and yet using the same tools that brought us to this point against them. My drive for money is only for exposure to reach more people. But you are totally correct, and I thank you for saying what you said

No, you both are completely right. I didn't just take drugs though

OP, I've been on biz since 2015 and the amount of psychedelic posts on here are gradually increasing. Also, check out this trend:

trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=psychedelics

Don't focus on giving people spiritual awakening, focus on practical benefits of psychedelics such as trauma, fixing broken relationships, appreciating what you have etc. and the rest will fall from there. Right now, it's a PR game. Rick Doblin of MAPS is fucking brilliant. He specifically chose war veterans for their MDMA-PTSD studies because saying no to them would be incredibly un-American. The fucking US government is interested in this stuff. Anyway, I was wondering how to help the world with this stuff too, and I think right now, figure out how to speed up decriminalization, maybe through public education, and hopefully money will come. The psychedelic renaissance is still early enough that there are no charlatans yet thankfully. This is the ground floor so be proud user

You are the shit. Thank you for this, truly.

You must be destined to lead, either through a Corp or being a powerful voice. Or you don't, and you were never going to wake up people. Being a powerful voice does not mean you need to do this in real life, but it should also mean you might not try to capitalize on it either. Sounds to me like you want to be more of an thought leader than a businessman anyway.

What if you made an app that's designed for people to use while tripping? Could be an assistant in therapy or self-inquiry.

:')

>takes hardcore drugs
>now believe the same bs otherwise only pajeets are stupid enough to believe
Drugs really lower the IQ dont they?

don’t waste your time OP.

I actually do own a business, however, if i'm being honest my sole intention is to raise a shit load of money to change stuff. Money is only a tool, but it is used to control this world. In my mind, a way to fight that is with money.

This isn't a bad idea. Something to direct the trip

Maybe the image was a poor choice. I am not a buddhist nor a new age enthusiast

What do you mean people are sheep? Too materialistic? Don't understand the evil of (((them))) and the Federal Reserve?

Just a warning if you start red pilling too hard, (((they))) will shut you down. If you succeed reaching a large audience you might even an hero with 2 bullets to the back of the head

With a suicide note written with the opposite hand I write with

>hey guys, I wanna get paid to be a lifestyle guru
Why not start a religion like Elron Hubbard? Religion is where the real money and brappers are.

anyway, all fields

You're not wrong. The issue is that religion tells people how to think. Not how to think for themselves.

Make your company a decentralized ownership franchise that's governed by proof of stake; people can set up their own shop under your brand, so long as they adhere to certain principles and agree to stock (by making it themselves for example) a certain line of products that's uniform across all parts of the franchise. 1 shop = 1 vote and all franchise owners participate in governance of the franchise.

The act of introducing decentralized ownership with an open source franchise will make people woke no matter what items it sells

This is a superb idea

I'm planing on doing this myself in a short while, but I need to get some last details right.

I could see legal documents and creating a framework for balanced voting as some hurdles, but doable

100% right

You say that you want to monetize it only to be able to reach more people. However, what you need to realize, is that money is not really that much of a problem. You can always look for funding from investors, or monetize an already existing solution. You shouldn't even be thinking about monetization at this point, period. If you only want money, do something that's purely profit based. If you want to help people, focus on that- think of a way to "teach" people. If we talk about psychedelics, how to guide them or something like that. How to make sure everyone "gets it". When you have a good solution, and it's actually helping people, you can think about money

>psychedelic renaissance
Not gonna happen. Look what ayahuasca ceremonies have turned into. Same consumerism, just with a different color.

> change stuff
> a way to fight that is with money
I was typing up a serious reply on the 2nd question, but seeing you post shit like this, lmao..
Here's your wake up call- you didn't wake up. You're the same sheep as the people you mock, just now in a slightly different way.
Don't forget- no sheep thinks they are a sheep. That's the trap... Watch Revolver, maybe you'll get what I mean.

> drastically changed the way I see the world
> developed messiah complex
This is for you, OP: youtube.com/watch?v=rWj7oWlVtag

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Bro are you serious? You came in here asking about setting up a business to get people woke.
You want to teach people how to think for themselves lol the ultimate oxymoron

You're right, I articulated it poorly. Thank you for the response, you raise some good points. Most important of which is, how do sheep recognize they are sheep, most effectively? Myself included. Do you place a billboard in their yard with a catchy slogan? The equivalent of that in my mind is a company that offers a product/service that continuously reminds you that are a sheep, and don't be anymore.

What else did you do?

Every fucking acid-freak talks about their inane visions with exactly the same language, exactly the same vague babble from person to person. Every single one.

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I get it. I run a rock and jewelry business. People buying for whatever reason is a benefit to me. With this, however, I just want to help people to think as autonomously as possible. Monetizing this is simply to reach as many as possible.

What I was saying was that I did not recently take drugs

I'm not saying I had visions. I'm saying that I was able to think about things from a more abstract perspective

>psychedelic renaissance
First off, the renaissance is in reference to the amount of research going on, it's a common term used in the field afaik. There was almost 0 research for 40 years or something but now it's really taking off. MDMA is going to phase 3 clinical trials with breakthrough designation, with legalisation for medicinal use hopefully for 2021. Basically it was deemed as leaps ahead of anything currently available for the treatment of ptsd, and that's just the start. It was chosen as the first psychedelic for this by MAPS because it could treat veterans and is pretty mild compared to the classical psychedelics. With decriminalization and widespread acceptance by science, the public will follow, followed by the slow governments.

>Not gonna happen. Look what ayahuasca ceremonies have turned into. Same consumerism, just with a different color.
More people doing ayahuasca proves this, there is a resurgence of interest in general. Also, ayahuasca isn't new, so the charlatans have come just like they do after the believers established a base. Also, those ayahuasca circles (the ones you are refering to, though there are genuine ones) push enlightenment and chakras and whatever, not the practical stuff which scientists are going for. Lastly, it is possible (and almost certain) that there will be a degree of consumerism for anything gaining popularity, but that doesn't mean good things wont come of this. Psychedelics are not a silver bullet but they are a powerful tool for mental health which is what people need to focus on. Also if you read my post, I said stick to practical things like trauma, relationships etc., not mass enlightenment. I don't think you read my post thoroughly/at all desu.

Tomato, tomah-to. You still sound like every other acidhead I've ever interacted with.

Well I will work on that. Deadhead or healy feely are not what I am trying to portray.

Watched that scene again. Been a while since I seen this. Thanks man

I don't get this whole "new perspective" thing people talk about. I tripped absolute balls on mushies every weekend for two months and didn't notice a single change in terms of my perspective or worldview or whatever.
I did notice that a lot of shit looks way cooler when you are tripping on mushrooms though.

We’ve already had trial periods of psychedelic renaissance & guess what we ended up doing?

Human sacrifices and cutting up babies on stone hedges

>think for themselves
>listen to new guru's on what to think
>you're a critical thinker now!

One of the first times I tripped I really came to terms with issues in my past. I saw things in a different light. A lot of introspection I guess. I kept using it for different ideas/problems/experiences. Could I have come to those same conclusions sober? Absolutely. But I didn't, and that was the difference for me. Psychedelics seemed to provide an atmosphere for a change in thinking, which I was not getting when I was sober. Most likely, because of my own ignorance.

I wouldn't mind being proven wrong by you, but I don't think there is anything anyone can do to flip the switch and have people revert to any natural existence, thinking for oneself etc. Take what you're up against and write it down anywhere and just look at it, then write down a way to counter each of them separately, you'll quickly see the methods used are just too much for the average person to implement.

Like the second poster said, having a brand for people to group under is the opposite of your stated goal. No one under any label thinks for themselves, not those found in religious labels, not those found in political labels, not those found in any labels whatsoever, because to be a part of any label requires you to already take on external ideas as the starting point.

But let's go further, let's take everyone's complaints and list them: some are against the rich, some are against specific types of rich people ex. bankers, some are against a specific race (usually the various mixed races of Jews), some are against environmental destruction (ex. pollution, deforestation, etc.), some are against animal cruelty (ex. murdering animals, murdering animals for sport, murdering animals for consumption, abusing pets, etc.), some are against multiculturalism, some are against all foreigners in general, some are against illegals, some are against one/some/all religion(s), some are against a specific philosophy, some are against a specific ideology, etc.

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smartcontract everything

Parker Warner Wright is a good place to start.

life coach, motivational speaker, podcaster

take your pick

pretty much. He didn't learn shit on his trip.

The best way to monetize this is with a website that you update frequently, a book, a self-made documentary, podcast, etc.

I am actually very aware of the amount of research that is going on, and that they're being used for experimental therapy. I don't actually have a negative stance on psychedelics. I know that they're very powerful tools in the right hands, and not only for the things you mention. A large part of top-tier scientists and nobel-prize winners have used psychedelics for their breakthroughs, for example. Psychedelics are actually very popular in these circles, it's just that almost no one talks about it, since they're not legal. However, I still think that there won't be any widespread acceptance by the general public anytime soon, not to mention decriminalization. There are a lot of reasons for this, but the main argument that will be used against them is the unpredictability of their effects. I'm not saying that this is true, but this will be the main reason. I'm not gonna go into conspiracy theories or the like, but there's a reason why alcohol is allowed, and why psychedelics are not. The way I see it, psychedelics will only be allowed in controlled environments, just like now.

Also, I interpreted renaissance in a different way, more like a new golden age or something like that- which is what many proponents talk about. I agree with you 100% on the practical stuff, they definitely have a lot of good uses, I did read your post. However, this is not what the OP was talking about, so I was talking from that perspective.

Here's the solution for all the main arguments:
>All
Violent means (murder, genocide, etc.)
>Rich
Citizens leave country/nation and civilization as a whole.
>Bankers & Central banks
Banks are easy, consumers migrate to another bank. Central banks are harder: currency ceases to be used, which essentially requires everyone to leave civilization.
>Race
Stop consuming anything made by specific race, problems arise if people within the target race are central bankers, then you have to leave civilization.
>Environmental destruction
Stop using products which are not renewable, in the long run you can't take part in civilization as civilization as a whole is an artificial environment created by humans at the cost of nature (technology vs. nature).
>Animal cruelty
Stop buying animal products, in the long run one would need to become vegan, longer run you would also need to leave civilization because of animal products being in everything from computers to phones and technology, probably somehow in manufacturing housing too.
>Multiculturalism, Foreigners, Illegals
Would require citizens to have power in their country/nation, and would directly go against business since multiculturalism is the logical end goal for capitalism, one language, one race, one global civilization, one culture, one religion/religious group is the final evolution of the free market, you can sell to everyone without worrying about race, culture, translation, laws, religions. So you would have to stop supporting any business, requiring you to - yet again - leave civilization in order to stop supporting anything.
>Religion(s)
Stop buying each religion's respective texts, stop giving money to each respective religious institution, some get help from the government, some probably get financial aid in some form meaning you would again need to leave civilization.
>Philosophy, Ideology
Stop consuming.

Most of these categories require everyone to be involved.

tl;dr - it's impossible.

>Buddhism
>new age
Oh Jow Forums

I also found this funny.

Appreciate this immensely. I have battled with the brand problem extensively. I approach this from a business perspective. For me to get the products I sell in my business in front of the most people, I have to spend a shit load. That isn't to say there aren't cheaper platforms for me to do so.
Thanks again

The only thing psychedelics do is change your perspective, during the trip. In large quantities the change is so profound that the prefrontal cortex gets shut down, and you lose sense of the self, and things like that. However, if you're just taking it for fun, you probably won't have any permanent effects after the trip ends. For that, you need to take it "purposefully". You need to have some kind of desire to "control the trip". This is what I meant with the aya ceremony thing. People take it for fun, like they drink for fun. It doesn't really change them, or make them more "free".

Not because of ignorance, because of the crystallization of your consciousness/perspective. Let's call it "tunnel vision".

Good to hear that you've seen the movie. I don't know how well you understand it, but at least you have an idea of what real freedom is like. The concepts in the movie, they are real, obviously without the whole guy ritchie flair, but the core idea, it's not a joke. If you understand this, you understand that helping people become really "free" is almost not possible. Psychedelics can easily deceive you into thinking you have reached this (even partly), it's easy to fall into the trap described in that scene.

How to recognize that you're a sheep?
Imagine that you're talking with a tinfoilhat conspiracy theorist. He's telling you about underground reptiles, flat earth, stuff like that. He believes it 100%. Whatever you do, whatever logic you try, his wall is impenetrable. It's like in the movie, his inner voice tells him, so he believes it, without a doubt. Now compare yourself with that person. Imagine yourself as him. Compare your "logic". Imagine that the other guy is someone who actually has reached some level of freedom. What would he say to you?

Interesting idea, I'm 100% with your cause. Psychedelics are wonderful things that most if not all humans can benefit greatly from.
With the psychedelic renaissance under way, it's good timing as well.
I'd say some sort of business idea merged together with a "movement" would be a good starting point. Alot of research on psychedelics and how we can use them for our benefit is yet to be done. Maybe get into funding and promoting such research?
The risk here is getting taken for some cult/religious movement, which doesn't go very well these days.

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This is truth. It would be an uphill battle forever, and serious sacrifice would have to be made for there to be a significant change. The reason I would want this first thing to make money is to create a follow-up business that promotes real financial advice. Spending money frivolously and attempting to climb the socioeconomic ladder (for mating purposes or power) even when the goals are ridiculous, seem baked into our nature. I want people to take a step back and acknowledge how complex our existence is, and realize a majority of the decisions we make are influenced from trivial sources that are not our own. Perhaps Cartesian.

The best you can do is make them aware of certain primitive, shallow thought patterns. Basically, widen the tunnel vision that I talked about earlier. You can't make them fully think for themselves, they'll still be easily controlled and manipulated, it'll just be on a more.. refined level. If this is what you're after, and you're fully aware, then this is how I'd do things:

- Brand image: something like "become the best version of yourself". Basic positioning- take notes from headspace and popular self-development brands, basically something like "take responsibility for your life", "we help you get unstuck", things like that. Core concept is, everyone has some things holding them down from achieving their dreams, like fear, past traumas, other people doubting them etc. You help them lose that "weight"
- Try to be as ambigious as possible when it comes to certain topics like politics/religion.
- You basically preach mindfulness, aka being aware of what you are thinking and doing, as often as possible. Best approach would probably be some kind of app
- Organize retreats, like tech-retreats where you abstain from technology use.
- During these retreats, you can offer "therapy" where people take psychedelics.
- Unless you can develop your own psychedelic, don't preach them in your official branding. Just say that they could be used as tools
- Another powerful tool is "flow", you can look it up. Basically, shutting down the prefrontal cortex on demand. This gives peak performance, along with dissolving of the "ego". If you can integrate it into the system, it could be pretty effective too

You have to accept that the above is the best you can do. Unless you have real power (which is not based on money), you won't be able to change human nature anyway, or enact any real changes. Helping as many people as possible practice mindfulness- being aware, that's the max you can do.

You’re fucking spot on. I don’t consider myself as having any special insight or revelation. What I do know is I continuously question. I have this idea of attempting to live life with one foot in each door. You want to relate to people so they listen to you, but then to suggest a different way to approach life they immediately shut down. Off topic, but I was a pretty cynical about the world years ago. I admit I wanted ignorance to pay a price. First, I realized that I will always be as ignorant, if not more so. And second, that if the proverbial ship does go down, it would take everyone down and that is not what I want.
As far as the tinfoilhat guy, is there not a game one could play in which you sell him an idea that is similar to his conspiracies, but changes his thought process in a beneficial way? A trojan horse of sorts

Thank you for the ideas man. The town I live in has a huge bible college, and it is seen directly as a cult. It is not pretty pr

All I do is work now days, so i'm more secluded than I've ever been, but even before it was seldom I ran into individuals like you. Seriously, thank you for taking the time to write back

That gentleman was spot on in regards the therapeutic benefits and such. In a way, this is what I am after as well. I do a piss poor job of articulating my thoughts at times. Whether it is to combat ptsd, get over a loss, analyze core belief systems, or look at the rat race we have created from a different perspective, I want people to be in charge of their thinking faculties and the actions that follow

Being able to continuously question status quo is definitely a good thing, not many people have that.

Well, with that guy, the problem is not "temporarily" convincing him. The problem is that it's very likely that his mind will return back to where it was after the conversation. So even if you break through the wall, his mind will rebuild it in no time.. that's the real issue. To prevent that, you need the whole mindfulness practice thing.

That scene I linked, the "rules", if you understand them deep enough you could actually apply them in situation like that. But you need to understand human psychology really well for it to work. (Take the scene where he meets up with the casino guy and outplays him, it's all by applying those rules, just modified for that particular kind of person.)

For the tinfoil guy, the 3 underlying psychological issues are:
- He has issues in his life, he blames it on outside factors. He doesn't take responsibility for his life, thinking it isn't fully under his control. Basically a form of escapism
- Lack of trust: he feels like everyone is against him, like he can't trust anyone except himself, or people with similar views. So a psychological trauma.
- He feels like his thinking is superior to that of other around him, he can "see" what's really happening while other can't. Everyone has this, his case is just more extreme.

Imagine that this is what's constantly going on in his mind, those kind of thoughts. His mind is constantly pressuring him, he has constant paranoia. He can't even relax. To help him, you would need to relieve this pressure somehow. But to convince him to do something that has that effect, you need to him to listen to you. Basically do what that guy did, "use" his own weak points against him. If you know how he thinks, and why, you can outplay him at his own game. After that, you can gradually start to change his worldview. This is what basically happens in Revolver.

Np man, it was fun to have this chat. Maybe I'll see you on here again sometime.

I get what you mean btw. I had kind of a similar period, it revolved around a different theme though- got deep into psychology, then astrology, trying to understand how people work. Felt really depressed about how primitive everything is at the core level.. basically also tunnel vision. Actually I also got out using psychedelics.

I'm gonna go now, but if I can, I suggest you to read the book series by Carlos Castaneda, it might be interesting for you. The real interesting stuff starts at the 3rd book, but the first 2 have their charm too.

Maybe you should talk about this topic more often. It'd help with formulating your thoughts

Also good luck with working this all out. You sound like the kind of person that could actually pull it off.

Yeah man, I hope so. I have had those books recommended to me before, I'll actually read them this time. Appreciate ya and thanks again.

Also, in case you ever read this, it's interesting that tinfoil guys' psychological issues could be applied to most other scenarios. Perhaps the answer for tinfoil guy could also be the basis for answers for others as well.

I'm also interested in this type of business. You should go out to conferences and meet like minded people, some who are already involved in successful companies. For example the Transformative Technology Conference or Consciousness Hacking meetups. Events like this: eventbrite.com/e/awakened-futures-summit-2019-tickets-55593798548

Man, thank you for this. This seems quite intriguing