I have a family-owned upper-middle class sports bar style restaurant (we're similar to BJ's Brewhouse, if you know it) in the midwest. currently my dad is the owner but I've been working with him for a few years and I plan to take full ownership soon.
I was looking for ways to increase profits, and I was thinking about charging $0.50 for ketchup. basically I'd say on the menu that all additional sauces are $0.50, so people won't think much of it, but the reality is that I wanna start charging for ketchup. I don't anyone will complain or even notice, and it could be a good way to boost profits because almost everyone orders extra sauces to dip their fries, potato wedges, etc. and before you ask, yes, I am a massive fucking jew and I have no moral obligations with doing this.
I don't go to places that charge for condiments. If they're cheap enough to demand a quarter for a Heinz packet, I can't imagine what else they skimp on health wise.
Thomas Ward
you idiot.
offer ketchup and homemade special sauce ketchu.
Brandon Jones
Based and saucepilled.
Camden Baker
you pull this shit on me and I will throw my shit on the floor and walk out. NOBODY charges me for extra sauces- NOBODY. DO YOU HEAR ME? YOU ARE MY SAUCE BITCH. YOU ARE MY SAUCE SLUT. YOU ARE MY LITTLE SAUCE WHORE AND I WILL USE YOU AS I SEE FIT. I WILL USE 5 PACKETS OF KETCHUP ON MY MEAL. I WILL TAKE YOUR SAUCES AND PUT THEM IN MY POCKETS AND TAKE THEM HOME TO USE ON OTHER FOOD. I WILL DO ALL OF THIS AT NO CHARGE OR I WILL GO ELSEWHERE, LEAVING MY FOOD IN A PILE ON YOUR DISGUSTING FLOOR FOR YOUR PATHETIC WAGIE ASS TO CLEAN UP.
Ayden Rogers
Why someone would go to your shitty bar which charges for sauce when they could go to better bars in the same area is beyond me
Jace Evans
i walked out of a restaurant for doing this, terrible idea.
Nathan Rodriguez
just make everything $0.50 more expensive, christ, how are so many restaurant owners so retarded. be honest about your prices or you just piss people off. otherwise no one gives a fuck whether something costs 50 cents more.
Grayson Diaz
Bad idea. Instead you should just limit the amount of ketchup they get. Don’t leave bottles on the tables, make them request it and only give them a teaspoon when they do
Asher Miller
I remember, when I was a kid, McDonalds and Burgers Kings here in Yurop were giving ketchup for free, but that changed in the 2000s for some reason.
fuck no. that will cause more collateral damage than it will save you money. focus on providing a high quality experience where things like ketchup and sauces and paper goods are plentiful and then just charge higher prices across the board. is there any reason why you'd rather try to do this ketchup trick than just raising prices across the board?
Adrian Morgan
this is how you run a business OP. nobody cares about a burger price that is .50 more than it used to be....but everyone will fucking turn on you if you start charging for ketchup.
Hunter Morgan
Jews are the best workers there are. They're just usually smart enough to move past it quickly into ownership
Caleb Clark
This guy is right people would stop coming if you do that and would just go to another bar that offers free condiments.
Joshua Barnes
We had a financial crisis in 2008
Jackson Walker
>dad has a restaurant for 20 years >autistic and greedy son arrives >"we will charge you for sauce" >restaurant is now empty
charge me for sauces and i will pee everywhere in the toilet room
David Lee
You can also just make "Rustic Homemade Ketchup" or something equally appealing and have your waiters sell it up for 50c more.
Dominic Phillips
Fucking based
Andrew Morris
Had this happen at a bbq place I worked at. New owner baught cheapest everything he could find and ran alot of repeat customers off. It's the dumbest idea op. Is the business hurting for income or is it just the new owner being handed something he didn't make and being greedy? If it's the latter I'm glad to see you are well on your way to destroying your inheritance
don't worry you'll go out of business soon enough when all your clientele lose their jobs to automation in 10 years
Jonathan Lewis
If you want to save money on ketchup why not just objectively look on average how much ketchup is being consumed per month and get larger orders of ketchup for cheaper and use bottles that you can refill with ketchup. That will give customers their ideal amount of ketchup at a lower cost to you. To add, you guys should actually *make* a sauce that people would be willing to pay .50c extra for.
Mason Sanchez
>i don't think anybody will notice they were charged $0.50 for sauces when the only sauces they had were ketchup You're a fucking moron and your family business will die with you if you go through with this merchant-like practice.
Jace Baker
daily reminder link is worthless eat shit faggots
Cooper Collins
BASED
Colton Walker
>I was looking for ways to increase profits
millionaire businessman here. you will be out of business within 5 years of you owning the place. screen-cap this. date is 5thMarch 2019
Many don't work. They prefer to exploit others work.
Poor jews team up to launch a sushi restaurant, making wage slaves do the sushis, instead of having to work themselves (true story).
Caleb Ramirez
They don't do any remotely "manual" labor. It's not even wrong that they refuse to, most people wouldn't opt into it. But it definitely reinforces their stigma in nations that celebrate struggle and work like Japan and Germa- wait a minute...
Chase Morgan
>creating value to improve an existing experience, offer variety, and increase profit margins instead of just nickel and dimeing everyone OP's mentality is unironically the same shit third world business owners do then wonder why their town looks like shit.
Elijah Wilson
>celebrate struggle and work Kill yourself.
Samuel James
Why not just up your prices to cover the cost of your condiments?
Joseph Roberts
Yes it is this kind of mentality that killed a lot of small businesses.
Small businesses and restaurants refused Visa card under 15-20 euros until recently. So people just went to the supermarket or a food chain which accepted Visa without lower limits.
Jason Gonzalez
For me, it's the McChicken. The best fast food sandwich. I even ask for extra McChicken sauce packets and the staff is so friendly and more than willing to oblige.
One time I asked for McChicken sauce packets and they gave me three. I said, "Wow, three for free!" and the nice friendly McDonald's worker laughed and said, "I'm going to call you 3-for-free!".
Now the staff greets me with "hey it's 3-for-free!" and ALWAYS give me three packets. It's such a fun and cool atmosphere at my local McDonald's restaurant, I go there at least 3 times a week for lunch and a large iced coffee with milk instead of cream, 1-2 times for breakfast on the weekend, and maybe once for dinner when I'm in a rush but want a great meal that is affordable, fast, and can match my daily nutritional needs.
I even dip my fries in McChicken sauce, it's delicious! What a great restaurant.
They always notice and complain. Just raise the price $0.50 with “free” ketchup and then nobody will complain. Blame the increase on Democrats or Trump or whatever big cause you want to blame if anyone asks.
Dominic Perry
this reads like a paid for review, you have a talent there
Grayson Wilson
hello newfriend
Adam Robinson
Based /ck/ pasta
Blake Wright
This Regular ketchup free OR premium homemade raw paleo ketchup as an option
Grayson Foster
I understand that you have no moral obligation with doing this. As such, I will argue to you that the business you will lose will decrease your profits far more than the revenue it will provide.
You will cause problems for your staff as well, with customers getting in arguments with your staff - resulting in them getting lower tips, less incentive to work hard / not getting rewarded for working hard due to a policy out of their control = more turnover = less profits.
I personally would stop going to a restaurant if they started charging me for ketchup. I asked a group chat of 8 friends of mine and they all said they wouldn't like it either, about half said they would stop going.
It's not about the fifty cents, it is about the principle. People would rather eat elsewhere where they don't have to worry about being skimped for every cent
Don't do it.
and yes, I think it's morally wrong too
Henry Scott
They don't they are hardcoded non workers. > A small shop is better than a large shovel. - Jewish proverb.
Easton Williams
honestly this is pretty based
Ian Young
That is super petty OP. I’d probably set your restaurant on fire if I were near.
Blake Rodriguez
People will just bring their own sauces and other stupid shit
Benjamin Reyes
The cost of printing new menus on a regular basis adjusting prices every time OP wants to take consumer surplus for himself will result in nobody winning, except for the menu printing company.
>I doubt anyone will complain or even notice And that's where you're fuckin' wrong kid. Can't wait to see you on the next Gordon Ramsay reality show after you've soiled the hard work your dad put in because you were a greedy goy.
Offer shit condiments for free and offer premium condiments for an extra charge. Organic, gluten free, no corn syrup or onions, etc.
Julian Bennett
Don't listen to the poor NEETs in this thread who throw a tantrum because they feel entitled to free shit. Aldi is MASSIVELY successful and they force customers to pay a deposit on their shopping carts, charge their customers for bags AND make them bag their own shit. Hell, even McDonalds charges 30 cents to add mayo to your burger.
Never listen to cheap/poor people, they won't pay you enough to keep your business running and they'll demand more and more free shit.
Liam Edwards
work the cost into the price of your other food lol you're customers are going to look at you kind of funny for itemizing ketchup.
Eli Peterson
If you think a random bar has the same negotiating power with customers than McDonald's, then you're fucking retarded.
Luke Martinez
Charging for condiments is absolutely npc/shekel/barbaric Asian slop peddler tier. You're compromising customer experience for peanuts
Jacob Nguyen
Normal people don't go on a tirade about being charged 30 cents to add something extra to their order and swear off of them forever.
Wyatt Clark
I think there is a fair point to be made here - if your restaurant is not in the United States, you may be able to charge for ketchup without much backlash. But if you do this in the United States, you will receive massive backlash.
Imagine if a grocery store in the US required a deposit for shopping carts lol.
Colton Hernandez
>Imagine if a grocery store in the US required a deposit for shopping carts lol. Oh, you mean like Aldi.
Owen Ross
In the United States, yes they do. Unless it is something food related. For example, if you're ordering a burger (American right?) and you want bacon on the burger the server will say "it'll be an extra $0.50 (I've seen $0.85 too) or likewise for cheese sometimes.
Never ever for ketchup. Condiments are considered part of the meal here, like free (ice) water refills (and likewise free soft drink refills) Next you're going to tell me that it's acceptable to charge people per shake of salt they use.
I think it's important to note the differences in service / expectations from other countries and the United States when it comes to dining. In the United States the customer expects these things as complimentary, and if they are not there and are charged instead they will choose to go to another restaurant instead. Obviously if it's a fine dining place you wouldn't care about there being a charge for condiments (as it would be embedded into the pricing in the first place) but you shouldn't be getting ketchup there in the first place.
OP runs a small family owned restaurant - of course there will be some people who don't even look at the bill and just pay the total, but there are a TON of people who will look line by line and go "What's this? a Ketchup charge? are you kidding me?" and have that be the final impression guiding their future decision making
Lincoln Brown
Just put those old glass ketchup bottles on every table. Zoomers won’t be able to figure out how to get it out of the bottle.
Angel Rodriguez
Aldi is not for the masses and caters to a "organic" "no gluten" "grass-fed" wealthy clientele. Walmart is the supermarket of the US. Walmart feeds millions and millions and millions of Americans - it is absurd when you look into the stats. Walmart absolutely blows all of it's competitors out of the water, and it's not even a true grocery store
Please tell me how it will go requiring the average Walmart customer to put a deposit down on a shopping cart
Jeremiah Jackson
"That'll be 12 cents for the salt we saw you use on your steak sir. Four shakes."
Kayden Brooks
It's not even about the money. It's about the style. Everyone knows they're being slightly ripped off at these independent restaurants, with that being the case they at least want some fucking taste in being ripped off. Not some snotty Jew cunt putting a ketchup sachet on the menu, how can a Jew now know how to silently swindle? You shouldn't run that place OP, you have no business sense and you have poor taste.
Connor Parker
>Aldi >wealthy clientele
America sure is different. In the U.K. Aldi is the cheapest supermarket.
>Aldi is currently spending $1.9 billion to remodel existing stores and another $3.4 billion to build 800 new ones over the next four years. Imagine if a grocery store in the US required a deposit for shopping carts lmao
Jack Stewart
Achmed and Umbukus welfare has to be paid for by someone goy.
Absolutely not. Raise your prices on your menu, nobody likes to be charged for fucking ketchup... it's a condiment. If you're serving things that require ketchup and not giving ketchup that's like selling someone a house without a fucking roof. Don't be a dick.
Carson Morris
What has that got to do with Aldi getting more and more business every year despite pissing off poorfags with their 25 cent cart deposit? In fact, who even mentioned Wally World?
Jaxson Young
The argument is whether the average consumer will put up with paying $0.50 for ketchup in OPs restaurant. Pointing to Aldis charging for carts and calling them super successful because of these practices is ridiculous when they're super small fry in the grocery industry. There are places who do try and charge like OP is doing (Aldi..) but they are not the top / mainstream consumer options.
I am pointing to Walmart's complete domination of the market to say that people ultimately choose the option that is the lowest price. Walmart shoppers would not put up with paying a deposit on a shopping cart, and likewise will not put up with a $0.50 ketchup charge (therefore OP should not do it, as it will alienate a huge part of his customer base)
Matthew Butler
Aldi is the cheapest supermarket here, too. It just also focuses on organic produce now, too, which it sells for the same price other stores sell non-organic shit. They have the shittiest, narrowest selection of things, though.
Mason Myers
>McDonalds charges 30 cents to add mayo to your burger.
What Jew-infested nation do you live in?
McDonald's doesn't do that shit in the USA.
Cameron Edwards
Have you ever actually shopped at an Aldi or looked at their prices? They're the most profitable supermarket in the USA and is aggressively expanding. The clientele I see there are all middle class moms who are trying to stretch a dollar and load up on cheap produce in exchange for bringing their own shopping bags.
