Would an economy with UBI work in United States if a future president implemented it...

i owed so much fucking money in taxes this year, while this girl i work with... who is a single mother of two, who actually lives not only WITH the children's father but also OFF of his own paycheck, receive over $10,000 this year.

UBI will NEVER work while shitskins exist. you can't prove me wrong.

it would replace all that and pensions too where there are state pensions.

I hadn't thought about pensions. How would existing pension contributions be dealt with? If I were actually implementing UBI I'd actually just raid those pension funds to prop up the program, but that's a cynical step that no UBI supporter would ever publicly advocate for.

I'm secretly hoping they do it, just like you hope that obnoxious kid in class sticks a paper clip in the light socket.
I don't make much money, so there's only so much the leftists can squeeze outta me. But watching them completely ass-rape themselves with their own stupidity is just too good to pass up. Ten years from now when I'm making a lot more and some shitbird mentions UBI, the decent folks who are going to beat the fuck out of them will have a recent, real-life example to choke them with.

i have thought some about ubi and concluded the problems with it is not the funding part that is perfectly doable.

the problems are the long term effects of building complete dependency to the state for the majority of the population while this huge voting monster would keep the politicians hostage with demanding constant populist programs. i can't make up my mind if it would be a good thing to liberate people from the gut wrenching everyday worry of make ends meet. fighting for survival is a basic human need altho many don't see it. when you stop fighting depression and drug abuse comes.

>The main argument for UBI is that robots will take over and everyone will be out of work.
This is the thing that boggles my mind, i think it is save to assume the robots are owned by a small fraction of the population, like you have less than 5% of the population owning the means of production and the Labour.
..and somehow they assume that you can easily snatch the wealth from these people and distribute it to the 95% of the population.

Furthermore, why wouldn't the military also become automated? in a future scenario with self-driving trucks, it is perfectly reasonable to assume that you also have autonomous armed drones - these could also be privately owned.
In a world where a fraction of the people are in control of the means of production, the Labour and the military; these people either are on board with giving most of their money to the state or they indirectly accept it (not resisting or actively trying to limit their tax-burden).

>50% receives bennies
>this is currently a strain
>100% now receives bennies
>this will alleviate the strain
user who are you trying to fool

At a certain point the distinction between business and government blurs because sufficiently powerful businesses can easily control governments via lobbying; plenty of legislation in governments across the world is actually written entirely by lobbyists working for some corporation or another.

it would never be a 100% most likely scenario os the 20-80 pareto ratio of productive vs non-productive humans. btw the real employment today is at 50% but that doesn't mean 50% gets gibs. mostly the other 50% support them directly or they are pensioners.

They're all over the channels. You should see the fucking psyops they're playing on the poor bastards on r9k, it's enough to make you want to give Jow Forums the keys to the car.

>Who would pay for it?
If you think this you're an economics-cel and will be beaten into pulp

>mfw the time of the neets has finally come

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Stop fighting UBI. It is the future

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are you insane? it took 50 years of social programming before the Swedes accepted that level of taxation, and even now they're beginning to buck that system what with all the New Swedes not paying in and increased federal interference in their comfy municipalities

Yes, UBI would work, but only under a serious rework of how the government operates.

We currently collect $3.2 Trillion per year federally. That's enough to give everyone over the age of 18, $1000/mo.

So in practice the money goes in every adults pocket, ensuring they never starve and can maintain some sort of safety net.

The current system funnels the 3.2T we collect into the pockets of societies worst leeches. Single moms, niggers, doctors, boomers, and military contractors.

So yes, UBI would work but there is a massive swamp to drain that could only be done in a dictatorship, before it could be sucessfully implemented.

stop thinking about automation as a problem we need to deal with and start thinking of it as a freedom we get to wield.

All of this is correct, and this will end the same way Federal support of state Medicaid did: by making the state (citizen) subservient to the Fed lest its gibs get cut off

Why in God's name would anyone ever trust Washington

Why

Implying the union wouldn't fight it? I put 15% of my income into pension (total comp, 8% out of my actual wage, 7 from employer). I'm hundreds of thousands into it and its fully funded and vested and managed by a non profit which does loan to the state since we have excess. At age 53 I will collect roughly if projections remain the same $4500 a month in "neet bux" UBI isn't going to be close nor is it right for them to role me over into UBI with already 15 years at damn near $25,000 a year invested into the pension.

Not homogeneous enough for it to work

checked, and even then it would just stretch out and then deepen the swamp while artificially increasing costs of basic shit because now everyone can afford products valued at 1 UBI

>not understanding that prices are a function of supply and demand

Not gonna make it

It could work when all the third world will be exploited for their workforce, thus increasing their living standards and putting them to NEET possibility levels.

If you look at society since the industrial revolution, it is first exploitation of workforce in dire condition (second half of the 19th century in england), then a second phase: wagecucking, not necessarily exhausting but depressing, and then the third phase is people wanting less and less to be cucks for a soulless company. In this third phase, NEETS emerge.

Africa is not even in the first phase

So it could happen when all thirdworlders are fed up of working, feeling that they are being exploited.

Currently they don't feel being exploited, they just complain that they don't have enough money. They still want to play the game of traditional industrial society (wages, working for a company, buying a rolex or a mercedes...). Company will just exploit them until they are fed up like some of us NEET. This would take at least decades.

Your train of thought is dead on.
But I gotta wonder, if ...IF... we held the line on "UBI is the ONLY bennie, nothing more," then I think distributing it like this might work. (Mind you, I still think UBI is fucking stupid, but we already pay more than a middle-class income to a shit ton of people through a dozen separate entitlement programs as it is.)
But then again, I'm also the guy who thinks I'd sign on for "reparations" payments to blacks as long as we ALSO say "there ya go, there's your payout, you get fucking nothing else from here on out so enjoy life without welfare you've become addicted to over the last few decades."
Seems to me like UBI and reparations are fucking stupid ideas, and my thought of ditching all other benefits in a prisoner exchange for them is equally stupid. Ever looked at the Fair Tax, though? Seems it would actually give every motherfucker in the nation an incentive to cut spending and drop the tax rate, and get a lot of people who pay zero paying something in.

the $1000 dollars doesn't reach me because of bix noods? Explain

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what happens when demand goes up and supply stays the same?

no it wouldn't work
fuck off you nigger communist

I will give universal basic income 1/2 year until its not so universal anymore.
Another 1/2 for society to completely collaps.
Finnland has shown NO INCREASE in taking job opportunities during their study.
Finnland = 90% ethno.

it's people like them (and policies like ubi and hating whites) that will hand trump the election though

where would the money come from you fucking autistic neet?