> Own my own business > drywall company > hard work, but I charge $50/hour for labor so life's good > Just me and my brother working, he makes $50/hr too > tried hiring people a few times but it never worked out, guys were lazy, slow, and quality was bad. Had to fire them. > So just sticked to my brother and me > Been in business 5 years > Always been comfy, kinda slow at times, kinda busy at times, but never anything I could not handle.
This last month has been INSANE. I get 2 or 3 calls per day. Texts, emails, etc.. My company has just blown up beyond anything I could possibly dream of. I literally cannot keep up with the sheer mass of requests I'm getting. I recently discovered that my website moved up to page 1 on Google, so when people Google drywall in my area, my phone number comes right up.
Sounds like a good thing but I don't know how to handle it. I haven't been sleeping, haven't been eating, just running around constantly trying to meet all these people who want to hire my brother and I. My anxiety is through the roof. All I want to do is get away from all this. But I've booked 8 weeks worth of jobs.
What do I do? Do I just turn my phone off? Tell people to go somewhere else? Sell the business?
I canceled the next 4 days worth of jobs (I'm sure the customers weren't happy) and turned my phone off. Now I'm just sitting at home with the blinds drawn, and not sure what to do.
Pussy. Nice opportunities truly are wasted on people like you.
Go make that money and stop crying you fucking bitch/
Anthony Evans
Just buy some weed and anime
Jackson Baker
>I canceled the next 4 days worth of jobs (I'm sure the customers weren't happy) and turned my phone off. Now I'm just sitting at home with the blinds drawn, and not sure what to do.
weak retard
Jeremiah Lewis
Take out a small business loan and expand.
Caleb Long
wtf is wrong with you? you wanted to hang drywall with your bro for $50/hr until your body gave out? there are so many ways to play this to your advantage i refuse to believe it's not bait
Nolan Hill
Double your rates. Not even kidding. You will get less customers & more pay.
Brody Martin
Expand or increase prices
Nathan Gray
I learned drywall by working for another company.
The guy had 4 employees (including me).
He had a lot of stress trying to manage it all, had to have trucks, insurance, a booking system.
After all the shit he put up with he was really only making about 70k or 80k a year.
So with my rates I can work like 3 days a week and still make that. And I don't have to manage lazy, or incompetent people.
The plan was ALWAYS to stay small and have a comfy little business.
But despite having zero advertising, somehow the word has gotten out and my demand has gone through the fucking roof.
If someone wrote me a check for 50k I would sell this company right fucking now. Just kind of tired of it honestly.
Carter Wilson
You need to start scaling your business up my dude. Find people you can pay to work for you, that do quality work you trust.
Jack Russell
i agree with economics the supply demand curve is a psychological necessity in business.
Ayden Reed
> Increase prices
Gonna do this. I think my prices are already pretty high, but fuck it. The market speaks.
I've tried hiring people multiple times. Maybe I'm too autistic, but I really can't handle teaching and managing people. It's a lot bigger pain in the ass than people realize.
Asher Gray
Where are you at OP? I'll come there and help you with whatever you need. My life is in a tailspin right now and I need a way out
Brayden Wright
If some bigger company notices the unmet demand in your area they'll steal all your customers, better start scaling soon OP
Jose Baker
>be me >done low voltage data and voice for most of my adult life >recently got into fiber >only paid $17.50/hr for it where I used to work >fuck this I'm starting my own crew >start my own crew and start booking jobs >to the point now where I need an LLC or something >don't know what the fuck to do because at the end of the day I'm just some retarded small town hick
Colton Barnes
Southeast USA
Jason Hall
This. You are leaving money on the table. Read up on basic business practices and market research.
You could try to push hard focusing on the business side of things while you hire your number 2 to handle the more time consuming labor tasks. You may need to increase the pay for such a person.
You should look at expanding your offerings beyond just drywalling.
hire someone who will manage others for you nice opportunity to scale
Jace Brooks
Increase price you retard. Do you understand basic business principles?
Chase Young
hire someone to take those calls and do schedules and perhaps deal with complaints Increasing pay would be a good idea but be careful to not over do it
In manual labour jobs it's best to have one side of the company focusing on finance, logistics etc... and the other side doing the actual work. Having one person do both is too stressful for them
Eli Williams
This is exactly what you do. For new customers at least
Hudson Edwards
That's exactly when you're supposed to hire people.
Anthony Adams
hey I'm in FL and I'm going to kill myself because I can't get a job
would you bring me on?
Leo Smith
This, increase prices until the number of client you are getting per week is manageable.
Liam Stewart
sell your leads to other drywall companies. that's what you do when you have more work than you can handle. someone else wants it, and they're willing to pay you a finders fee for your referral.
Liam Richardson
OP you have the perfect resource in your brother. You need to become an Owner of the business and let someone manage it for you. Perhaps your brother could help you manage it if he's interested. You likely need someone to do what you don't want to which is manage/train new employees to handle the demand. If the cost of this is too much then you offset it by raising your rates to cover it. Ultimately this should be less stressful. Just make sure you're doing things the right way. You may really need to take on a few people depending on what areas of expertise you're lacking in.
Zachary Gray
SEO contractor/analyst here. I've helped a few small businesses with similar leaps in web traffic they hadn't prepared for.
I'd suggest carefully hiring an additional laborer and also hiring a non-laborer to handle scheduling logistics. I can help.
Jayden Moore
>It's a lot bigger pain in the ass than people realize. lol, this is so horribly true, literally for every 10 new hires probably 1 is acceptable.
work in education (lol, i know, i'm on biz) and holy fuck how hard it's hard to find anyone barely motivated
Christopher Lewis
If you are being recognized for popularity/quality of work to such an extent that you are booked up for months in advance you need to 1. Raise your rates and 2. Try to expand your workforce. Doing (1) should help you be able to pay a competitive salary in order to find high quality employees for (2).
Lincoln Wilson
>I'm going to kill myself because I can't get a job you can always save yourself the time and cost by killing yourself now
Carter Rogers
I'll drywall for you OP
Blake Hall
Guys I appreciate all the comments.
I think hiring someone is the wise decision, but I just can't handle the stress. I've done it before and anyone with a small business here will tell you, hiring someone good is much easier said than done. The last 2 times I spent a good 2 months wasting time and money on the new person only to eventually have to fire them. They both worked slow and did shitty work. And it wasn't personal, it was just sad. No matter how many times I corrected them and showed them the proper methods and timing I still got shit results.
I think I'm just gonna let the company collapse over the next week. Not gonna answer the phone or show up to jobs. If the hits hurt the business I just don't care. I'm beyond burnt.
After I get my shit together I'm raising my prices and taking some customers off the books.
Adam Sanchez
>some hillbilly retards get money literally thrown at them and they spasm >meanwhile i am trying to pay off propertytax/incometax/corporationtax/tradetax as a business owner while fighting for pennies on an oversaturated shitmarket that is called EU against a billion of other companies
Jaxon Morales
my family has owned real estate since I was born and I've done a bit of all the trades helping out, and we have gone through a shit ton of helpers
finding already trained blue collar workers over 25 without some serious drug problems or just being a general fuck up is impossible
your only hope is hiring young guys and pay them above retail/mcdolo's wages so they have a little motivation, and instead of focusing on having them actually do the work - focus on them saving you time. Trips to the store, paperwork, handing you tools/moving equipment, simple shit that adds up time wasted. Then only train them on 1 very specific task at a time until they are masters at it. Seriously, even if it's just putting tape or painting.
Stop being a cheap fuck. Accept that you will pay someone that is practically useless for awhile for ten bucks an hour and be quick to give them raises as they become less useless. You should not be working the same job at your brother, you need to split up withe each a helper unless there's a time sensitive task. Eventually one of these useless idiots you hire will be able to do enough very simple jobs on their own and you can hire a new helper.
Stop worrying about profit margin while you are expanding. Eventually you'll come across guys who can run the jobs for you and let you move into a management role and/or a spot where you just drive to customers houses to inspect the job and write up an order/estimate for your crew.
Don't just shit the bed. If things go haywire and you fall behind schedule or your employees fuck something up, just be honest with your customers that you are expanding and overbooked - either referring them elsewhere temporarily or in the case of a fuck up, just make things right and get the job done. They will respect you if you stay to your word.
Dominic Jackson
nice larp
hire 3 people on a 3 week contract and make them compete for full time position
John White
How about you hire 1-2 more people and incentive them somehow trough commissions to work harder? Idk how this business runs, but if they can do 1 job per day, tell them if they can get 2 jobs done in a day they receive X bonus???
Anthony Lopez
how hard is it to just hire a couple of guys
Nathan Morgan
very hard, I have an aquintance who runs his own business. Hires a few extra guys all turn out to be incompetent and lazy. They call in sick constantly and he can't fire them because he'd have to pay them salary for 6 months and he can't handle that.
Easton Robinson
that's not a 59 eldorado
Jason Russell
i guess the economy is that good these days then. when i worked construction for a couple of years back in 2009 you had people working themselves to the bone all day ever day even coming to work with injuries.
Kayden Richardson
you fucking retard just up your price
Juan Phillips
I've been there OP, just explain to potentials that there is a current labor shortage and that there is a wait list. Schedule a vacation, you need it. Look into another firm that does good work and start subbing out clients you can't squeeze in. Monitor their performance and then buy them out if possible in 8-10 months. How is your brother handling the stress? Check in on your only employee for sure. Most importantly, turn your phone on tomorrow and open the shades; you'll give yourself agoraphobia if you keep responding this way. Eat some peanut butter unironically if physical stress/anxiety symptoms kick in hard.
Mason Hernandez
This, I am on my second successful business.
Up your rates. Maintain the business perfectly for a year and then sell it.
William Murphy
Forget all the cucked numale shit you have read online about redpills and blackpills. America unironically is the greatest place on earth because anyone with the willpower to not be a bitch can go and be a contractor for $50/hr. I just started training on simple IT contracting for $20/hr basically running cables and setting up p.o.s, will be making $40+ an hour to literally call tech support.
Imagine taking advice from skinny dark triad aspie internet writers. You won't hear or see about the kind of hustlers who take advantage of the real opportunties because they are busy make $75 an hour and getting the next job.
That being said I still want to find a career or start a business more aligned with my personal interests and passions because you only live once, youth fades and eventually working just for money will have you cracking like OP
Nicholas Morris
It's hard man. Much much harder than I thought.
Most guys want at least $15 an hour for manual labor jobs. And they want 5 days a week. And they want to be provided a vehicle, they don't want to drive their own and carry materials.
They have no desire for great work or perfection, no sense of urgency, and they don't really care what the customer thinks. And if you ride them too hard they will just quit. Then you are out time and money.
Shit sucks man.
Also a lot of guys have the right ability and work ethic but after a few months they just get tired of it and quit. So then you're rolling, all set up and depending on a guy for your labor and he just calls one day to tell you he's done. Then you're beyond fucked. You have tons of work lined up that can't be done because you don't have the manpower.
It's fucking hard man.
Michael Baker
Thanks man. I have taken 2 total weeks of vacation in 4 years. I'm so fucking burnt.
I'm changing my voicemail to "thanks for calling user drywall, unfortunately we are not accepting any new customers at this time, please call back next month or try another drywall company"
Brother is not doing well either. I tried getting him to chip in with more estimates and business admin but he's burnt out too. We both need time off.
Thanks again.
Michael Ward
Oh and I forgot that as soon as you start bringing employees into the mix you have to get set up with a big insurance plan: liability, work comp, vehicle. It's like $250 a month.
So yeah if it works, having an employee and growing is obviously the right call, but shit is not easy.
Cooper Roberts
Are u fucking retarded?
Up ur rates u fucking dumbass. Wtf??
Adam Martinez
OP, Here is the trick. Simple yet difficult. Find a good Mexican. This is the hard part. This good Mexican will control the other Mexicans for you. Problem solved. It will be worth it to pay GM in exchange for your time trust me
Jaxon Morris
Last guy I hired, I picked him up from the lot.
He was El Salvadorian. I eventually had to fire him. Worked slow and didn't really care about great work.
I later asked a Mexican guy who told me El Salvadorians aren't good employees. But who the hell knows.
I need to just raise my prices to $100/hr.
This month just really took me by suprise. Never seen anything like it.
Jack Jackson
not for nothing but it seems that the terms you are offering for employment are simply not up to par. you can't expect you attract good people if all you're offering is peanuts. just sayin'
Aaron Flores
Last 2 guys i started at 20/hr and moved up to 25/hr pretty quickly.
It's not that I can't pay them well, it's like I said above, slow work and bad work. Bad work was the biggest thing.
What made my bro and I so popular is that we nail almost every job perfectly. I couldn't find a guy who could come close to our work even after much training.
Evan Jackson
yeah i get that i guess. all that you can really do is listen to what everybody else in this thread is telling you and just raise prices.
either way. being in too high demand as a business is definitely a "good problem" if you know what i mean
Julian Lee
Op this is what you do when you don’t want to take on any more work. When they ask for a price or quote, up it A LOT, they will either go else where or they will still pay the higher price and then it’s worth taking on that job. Never turn down work, just give them a higher price. Like I said either they will look else where or pay more, it’s kinda a win win for you.
Aaron Wright
This is what I'm going to do. I appreciate it guys.
Xavier Sullivan
Sub-contract the jobs to another drywall company.
Landon Thomas
>I haven't been sleeping, haven't been eating, just running around constantly >I think I'm just gonna let the company collapse over the next week.
Hire /outsource Don't throw the samosa in your plate
Cameron Cooper
That's a very bad idea. They'll just end up stealing your customers.
Oliver Cox
>But despite having zero advertising, somehow the word has gotten out and my demand has gone through the fucking roof.
If you are good people will seek you out. Competent hires are always in high demand.
Bentley Jones
You can sub contract out some work. Get an experienced plasterer and with there own insurance and charge him out to the customer at $50 and pay the guy at like 40-45 and make him wear a shirt with your company logo and shit on it. Or you can just put your prices up and less people will hire you but the ones who do will make up for the loss while you stress less. Had a drywall crew quote $75000 to do my workplace and a another company quote $15000. It was only a one week job for like 3-4 workers. Some people just think if you are charged more they will be getting a better quality job. Charge more and let them think they are getting better quality work
Nathan Murphy
>work in education How does that even work? You teach teachers?
Wyatt Lee
>Stop being a cheap fuck. This is the attitude most boomer bosses have. They want fully trained, competent, certified, and good 'fit' for the office, all at shit-tier wages.
Hudson Scott
> I recently discovered that my website moved up to page 1 on Google
It doesn't work like that.
I recommend selling your business since it is obvious that you are a complete brainlet.
Jaxson Reed
It's true. Mexicans are harder workers than any other spicshits. All the Mexicans I worked with were cool but I had a Cuban and a Honduran who were both lazy nasty assholes.
Elijah Anderson
I'm white but mostly work with cubans and mexicans because they work harder, white can't hand in my department at work. excluding management and supervisors. White people can be hard working laborers they just have to want it, most worth a shit don't give a shit. If you're a small employer you have to give them a goal, usually financial. Or create an awesome environment. The best way to get better workers is better wages. Raises. Benefits. You have to offer something to get people bust their ass for you.
Connor Rogers
Just redirect them off to another rival business and ask for a commission. Sure they will thank you for it and you get some cash back. Win-win.