I have a psychology test to test weather I'm fit for a trader job position next week

how many dog sodomists are trying to be firefighters?

Dude this last agency was a long process, then there was the whole day physical where I had a finger up the ass, ran on a treadmill for a stress test, had 9 test tubes drawn, multiple 12 lead ECGs, had to sit in a room naked for an hour as a doc and medical student poked and prodded.

Followed by the investigator who followed me for a month and sat me down for a few hours to ask me why I frequent the 7/11 near my place at 11pm on fridays and if I have a drinking problem.

Was well worth it though, 6 figures and I only work 9 days a month.

If they get a hint that you have family issues they ask if you fuck your mom. Happened to a coworker of mine who stated he grew up with a single mom when asked. They literally try to fuck with you and get you upset.

That's a weird fucking screening process for becoming a firefighter.

its a government job
it is basically impossible to fire people from them once they have them, and once they have them the government is on the hook to pay them for the rest of their life

thus, they try (and fail) to do proper due dilligence in hiring stable employees that will accept being a worker drone for 20 years

Pretty standard west coast entrance process. It takes about 6 to 18 months from the time you walk in to take the entrance exam, go through an assessment center, physical agility exam and then 3 interviews. Final piece being background, psych and medical. Then its academy for 3 to 6 months followed by 12 month probation where you scrub toilets and dont sleep for 24 hours (on shift you are in bed last, up first, and first on every run.

What this guy said.

>start at $75,000
>finish career at around $150,000
>pension is 2% each year of service of highest salary
>mid way through career get on specialty team or deploy with feds. Have a crazy few years of making $200,000+
>retire at age 53 with 25 years+ and if your highest average was $200,000 you know get $100,000 annual in retirement with a monthly paycheck.

It's the ultimate sweet gig hidden in plain sight. I have 2 full time jobs outside of my actual full time job and still have time to vacation like a zoomer. Only difference is that I ain't running up credit cards and complaining about how I need UBI.

>6 figures and I only work 9 days a month.
this is why the screening and physical fitness / tech school process is strenuous

its a completely cake job unless you get put on wildland firefighting duty (just fake a knee injury to get out of it like most fatfucks), and the competition is stiff for city/county firefighting positions

it is an example of an industry that has been made impossible to privatize, and thus has been subjected to the most extreme forms of government subsidization known to mankind, and the only way they have found to cut costs is by doing everything possible to get employees they can retain

even so, most firefighters are pieces of shit that work a 2nd or even 3rd job /hustle without effort due to their ridiculously easy schedule

its sort of a well kept secret, and of course the firefighters union is powerful due to being a public safety entity, so no politician will ever EVER fuck with them

basically its a sekrit IWIN club for physically fit people who are able to put on an appearance of being mentally stable

its so massively expensive that small towns / cities cant afford to keep firefighters, and have to rely upon volunteers to supplement (who dont get paid fuckall)

its massively fucked beyond belief or reason, and I'm surprised it hasn't become a bigger scandal

>oh well hes a firefighter he deserves to get paid a lot! :B

your typical NPC response, but they don't know these douchebags can pull almost 200k a year after their overtime and benefits, and maybe (MAYBE) work one or two big fires, rest of time doing EMT shit and putting out car fires

>t. brother of a big city firefighter

NOT ONLY do they get all that stuff, but they also don't have to put up with women (for the most part), communists, beta-males, or actual retards

so by becoming a city firefighter you enter a workforce composed of entirely physically fit men with 90+ IQ who are being well paid and have a lot of free time on their hands, which means you fuck around and bro-it-up all day long every day waiting for a call

its a fucking frat house you get paid $150k to live in and sometimes you put on armor and go kill fires

YES i'm fucking mad as fuck, because I get paid $150k but have to work goddamn 6 days a week 10 hours a day and am constantly stressed.

I would agree almost, but it's become so specialized and the public demands such high level service it's gotten to the point where its justified.

My buddy on the hazmat team? Yea hes working on a masters degree and has enough industry certs to easily have a PhD in the subject.

Our flight crew? Pilots out of combat zones. Medics with bachelors degrees at a minimum and 2 year critical care courses.

Stacy wants only the best for her and her children when she wrecks her zero down $60,000 dollar SUV into the side of a chemical truck while driving way to fast sipping a latte and looking at Facebook.

Shhh dont let the secret out.

It's my day off, but I'm going to swing by the station to drink some coffee and bullshit around the kitchen table before we play a game of ball for the on duty crews PT. Chances are they will need on call when I get down there so I'll bill $65 an hour while I'm shooting hoops.

=o

I agree the super-specialists that actually have to perform their duties deserve to be well paid.

Not your average firehouse bunk-dweller lmfao.

This is why I say firefighting could stand to be privatized. The cost for all this shit is so fucking bloated stateside because it has not been exposed to market forces in decades.

Most firefighters are bros, and I hang out with them often since my brother is one. Can it be a rough job? Yeah absolutely, but its being exploited to hell by these guys, and I don't blame them for doing it. Most dudes at his station work another job or have a business. Not one of them is having a rough time except for drinking, from what I could tell.

It's like....some form of fucking modern warrior class / nobility or some shit. That's what it fucking is. Hang out and wait for shit to go down, live it up while it isn't since your life might be on the line someday, and you know you're going to get a 2 moth deployment to the sierra nevada where you work 18 hour days in 120 degree heat next year that will take 2 years off your total lifespan.

Sorry to break the firefighter talk (I love u guys, ur great) but I'm fucking scared bros.

I daydream of becoming a trader and when shit actually hits the fan I have no idea if I can manage it.

My friend always knew he wanted to be firefighter and put in the work young so he could land a posiition in a competitive city right when he turned 22. In retrospect he had it all figured out while the rest of us went to school to become wageslaves. In terms of risk vs reward + benefits, firefighting might be the most redpilled job in the first world right now. Fuck I feel like such an idiot for not seeing it sooner.

Sorry bro, I'm the poster that talked about the FF entrance psych. I know the same practice that did ours did checks for various government and private services such as high level positions for private corps.

The biggest peice of advice I was given was chillax. You can't study or fake it. Getting worked up is exactly what they dont want to see. Just go in there and be yourself or as close to an ice cold emotionless killer as you can be. They want pleasantry but if there is an interview they want to see you can take verbal abuse and or tough subjects and not crack. As long as you dont show your power level, you are on Jow Forums, a guy asking a weird question shouldn't make you sweat. If it's written only, be careful with strongly agree and strongly disagree, but dont sit in the middle an be indecisive if it's a rate out of 5 question. True false you are on your own, its pretty much fool proof. What would 99% of stable people respond with?

He did but he didnt. Hopefully his department pays or will give him time to go to school on his own dime. I'm glad I did school before hand. Most departments hire guys around 25-35 and like people with private industry experience, professional experience and degrees. You can train a guy to kick a door down, but a 30 year old with a marketing background who worked private sector can bring alot to a public agency that then doesnt need to be outsourced. You know why that 30 year old will be on a fast track to an officer position and even admin? Or side project overtime? Paying him $100 an hour to plan marketing and PR events is cheaper than outsourcing it for $300 an hour.

Look at rural metro. Privatized firefighting doesnt work. It's too costly to have people sitting but too costly to run bare bones and underserve your contract. In the end you underpay people and they leave and you are left with the bottom end that underserve your contract no matter how many bodies you have. Incompetent firefighters are as good as none.

The model that works is merging and offering additional services. A true all hazard region rather than city service. EMS, air resources, urban, wildland, search and rescue. It's more cost effective.

This is until firefighting becomes obsolete. I give it 50 years and a "new deal". The capital cost is higher currently, but as new structures are built the job of putting fires out will disappear. New structures dont burn, sprinkler systems stop fires.

Don't firefighters get cancer at very high rates because of the job

Yup, it was a study done at least 8 years ago, but the American firefighter has a life expectancy of 56 years. It's why our retirement eligibility is 53. Alcoholism, suicide, cancer, injuries and generally risky behavior.

It's why if you are smart you put in 10 years on the ground and either climb to admin or you leave. At 10 years you are vested where I work and collect 20% at age 53. $20,000+ dollars in NEET bux isnt bad at age 53 for life. It's not livable but eith 457 deferred comp (basically 401k), Roth IRA on the side, annuities, properties, and a second career you should be doing fine.

At the high level and building on the experience I've seen guys do these things.
>sales
You get paid a healthy salary when you sell 2 million dollar ladder trucks. Same goes for medical, lifepack manual monitors are $50,000 a pop and most departments upgrading are doing 10-100 at a time. A guy I know went to euro land to sell them to a national healthcare service, they bought 800 and he was flown over for 6 months to complete the sales and training.

>Education
Feds, state, local, private, universities will hire the right person to implement training if you have a degree, credentials and experience

>freelance
Feds hire out emergency response. I run into guys at fed events all the time who bought portapotties at $2500 a peice and rent them to the feds at $500 a day, those contracts are 14 days minimum. They pay for themselves in one contract.

>International
From contracting, to set up and managing operations. International community drools at the thought of a credentialed American firefighter. At least for now, they should have figured out by now we dont fight fire in north America anymore. Either way it's mostly high level positions in management and operational leadership because of "muh" education. This one requires legit time in school.

Also alot of psych. I worked for a captain who called in an air asset that went down. He had alot of guilt early on in his career. Fast forward a few years and his lieutenant works part time with an air rescue/medical service. His aircraft goes down.

This captain was fucked in the head. He could never call in air resources and it was left to me, sometimes at inopportune times as I'm a senior worker bee and busy doing something.

Either way I wish him good luck when he retires, he spends half the year in rehab the other half hiding in his office and avoiding making decisions. I have no doubt he will be a figure that puts our life expectancy low, real shame.

Expect

1. Speed math and sequences
2. IQ test
3. Personality test

In follow up interviews you will typically be asked to solve some riddles and probability questions

1. The speed math can be hard as hell. I don't know anyone who passed it without lots of practice.

Had one two weeks ago. I got 83% and they told me they'd pass on me.

I'm 5'8", can I still be a firebro?