Imagine people falling for this alt right MLM scam in 2019

Inrupt is an API gateway that Urbit has as a feature. Unironically stay forever poor.

FUCK YES, thank you man. I've been waiting for this for at least a year.

Also lol at you faggots thinking the most important intellectual and technological achievement of one of the most important (though unintentional) architect of the alt-right, developed over fucking 18 years or something, is a scam.

4 billion planets circulating supply. Each star, which i guess is a planet, is auctioning off for $5k. $5000 × 4 billion =$20 trillion. Why would anyone invest in something with a market cap this high already?

Be wary of street shitters listing planets at star prices. Also if you don't get the $5k star then contact Jeremy directly, don't buy that 50 ETH one.

jeremytunnell.com/2019/02/07/i-have-urbit-stars-for-sale/

Exchanging one scam for another

top kek

Stars are not planets, retard. Stars spawn planets. There are 65k stars max. I recommend you spend at least 2 weeks reading up on this project before you say something retarded like that again.

and why would someone use those "stars"?

remember second life?

You seem like you're well read about Urbit. Do you have any concerns about Curtis's departure? Or is Urbit developed well enough at this point that you're confident it will grow of its accord now, without his involvement? I have heard a rumor that the reason for his resignation was an irreconcilable difference with the VC backers and Thiel.

He's gone? Welp. That's it then. This is now a scam like Cardano.

Maybe read his own reasons for the resignation instead of acting like a little shit.

It's actually a good thing that he left. People have been avoiding Urbit like the plague because of his reputation. Galen is more than qualified to run the show from here. He's also decided to change a lot of the weird ass nomenclature that Curtis made for things.

This is my second time hearing this rumor about Yarvin and Thiel. Where has this been circulating?

Read into the project. Stars are infrastructure nodes on this network.

shut the fuck up you scamming nigger idiot

lmfao
>MUH DIGITAL REAL ESTATE!

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Imagine missing one of the greatest moon missions of all time, a technology more groundbreaking than Bitcoin and Ethereum. And you call it a scam. Just lol.

Most people don't have 5k to throw at muh digital land though

As it should be. Stars and Galaxies are for white men, not street shitters.

Good luck dumping your bags on someone then

Ty sir.

Is this similar to skycoin just more indepth? Skycoins produce coinhours. They are both trying to make the new internet yes? We should hold both then.

Blood and virtual soil!

This is why urbit will ultimately fail in the end sadly

Unless there's a steady market for stars and a years-long downward pressure so plebs can get in on it, everyones gonna feel burned since they're the chump buying planets instead of issuing them

Can urbit stars/ planets not sell on an exchange with charting or high volume?

This predates skycoin. To be completely honest I would not recommend anyone buy address space without doing very extensive research into it.

They're trading on an exchange right now, with very low volume. These are not fungible assets and are not intended to change hands often.

Is this open source?

Why? Is it not as simple as buying an asset, waiting for it to gain value, tgen selling it for 100x original purchase price in an auction?

This project is 17 years in the making and is very difficult to understand. I have been reading about it daily for the last 8 months and I still don't know shit. I cannot in good faith advise anyone to blindly throw $5k into it.

65k stars is a lot, and most of them will be unlocked in the next ~4 years from what I remember, so I expect a decent amount of inflation just from galaxy owners and people who bought too many stars (of which I know a few people, including the guy who introduced me to urbit). I don't see anyone spending more than $10k for one if/until it sees actual use. Hoping to see some below $750 or so in the next year

Bruh if they ever get that low I'm buying like 10 more of them. A handful of fatfingered spergs pumped the price on OpenSea.

I'm letting you know now though that 2018 galaxy buyers paid $1M each, although their expected returns are not based just on the stars they can spawn.

rundown on this project? looked into it a year ago but their youtube videos don't explain anything

nvm i see they've redesigned their website and have included a primer

holy fuck this is beautiful. 5k for personal server seems a little steep though will look into it further thanks op

End user addresses are much cheaper. It's going to be a few years before this becomes usable for normies though.

You can buy a planet for .25 ETH on urbit.live but you're probably going to want to host it on a cloud service and will eventually be paying subscription to infrastructure nodes for packet routing, peer discovery, updates etc

this is where the 'jobs' of the future will be. Monetization of data is now doable due to dlt and smart contracts, but something like urbit makes it a definite reality. Just like how 200 years ago no one could've dreamt that you can make a living off livestreaming games, decades from now you could earn UBI levels of income by monetizing your personal, financial and maybe even biological data

your personal server becomes effectively a literal planet waiting to be mined.

and all these data will become food for the surveillance system that the entire tech industry is currently setting the foundation for - digitization of economies through sc and dlt, algorithmic data analysis (brain), computer vision and navigation (eyes), and robotics (body)

bingo

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>tfw can't figure out if this is some insane, astrology cult shit or just 30 years ahead of its time

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I read their website and I still have no idea what it does that's so revolutionary. And it reads like some Scientology recruitment ad or something

¿Porque no los dos?

Maybe read into it a bit more than just the website? There are fucking endless resources on this.

it's like a mesh between database systems and personal computers, but decentralized. Like a decentralized world computer, with its own OS, SSD, apps, etc. Theres still a fair bit I need to digest but so far it feels like something that fits right into the 4thIR 'data is the new oil' meme

it's not 'revolutionary', just a different way of doing things. On a different timeline this could've been how the first computers would've looked like

>Where has this been circulating?
Silicon Valley.
I think it would probably be smart for any anons wanting to buy this to wait a couple months for FOMO from the launch of the Azimuth market to subside. As everyone has pointed out, it will take years for Urbit to get to a point where it can reach mainstream adoption (if ever) and supply will continue unlocking. It's not like Urbit has tons of interest right now outside of NRx circles, true computer geeks, and more rarified crypto speculators. I genuinely want this to suceed tho. Somebody spin up a star for the real Jow Forumsheads to migrate to Urbit..

>It's not like Urbit has tons of interest right now outside of NRx circles, true computer geeks, and more rarified crypto speculators
I definitely fall into the third category.
>Somebody spin up a star for the real Jow Forumsheads to migrate to Urbit..
Someone on Jow Forums said they would drop invites for planets when this becomes more usable. I definitely won't be touching my star until I know how to use it, might be another year or so of studying this shit.

too poor to afford a star. Will planets appreciate in value?

it's best described as reification of Jewish schizophrenia.
they just changed names for pr

>3. Fort allocation - digital feudalism

>Lords are only one class of fort. A fort is always an atom.
>It is classified by the size of that atom:

> >= 2^64, < 2^128 : wolf (wild fort)
> >= 2^32, < 2^64 : pawn (civil fort)
> >= 2^16, < 2^32 : lord (civil fort)
> >= 2^8, < 2^16 : earl (civil fort)
> >= 1, < 256 : duke (civil fort)
> == 0 : pope (trivial fort)

Not really, unless you camp on some good names that you think will be in demand. There are going to be ways to monetize your planet but that will require extremely high IQ early on. Planets won't be considered a scarce resource for at least 50 years.

>5k for personal server
You aren't buying a server, you're buying a domain.
It's almost exactly like paying for a ipfs name, if that would make sense, except instead of page in html and js everything is written in 'nook'. That's all urbit is. There's no secret. It's literally a product of an insane mind.
Nook is a language that defined '1' as false and '0' as true which is different to literally every programming language in existence. Why? Because it was designed by a schizophrenic Jew.

Urbit is what happens when you have a Jewish version of Terry Davis (TempleOS) - instead of giving his insane creation for free he's monetizing it, because of course.
Terry > Moldbug

Yarvin has left the project and whatever it turns into it is now out of his hands.
I have no problem with digital feudalism, as long as I'm on top. Fuck normies and fuck this degenerate society.

It doesn't matter that he left as he designed everything.
If people actually understood that they're literally buying a domain name for the equivalent of ipfs with state, but with an insane esoteric language nobody would look at this twice.

It's an address space, that isn't a secret whatsoever.

Is that greentext Curtis's original naming scheme? It's far more Moldbuggian than muh stars and planets.
>it's best described as reification of Jewish schizophrenia.
That is a good way to understand it desu. Gavin is there to put the Silicon Valley sheen of altruism onto Moldbug's little reactionary experiment against the entirety of the web as it exists today.

I've been digging into this for about a month but my impression is that it is still a solid year away from being anything usable. In fact I think Galan said that himself during the previous meetup in SF. Also there is practically a monopoly on the stars currently for sale on opensea, so be wary of whoever is shilling it right now. Long term, the possibilities something like this presents for the future are very interesting. OP's fud is thinly veiled considering no one would have even mentioned this without his pathetic excuse for a thread. It's like being at a party and suddenly one guy is accusing everyone besides him of being a faggot. Personally I think it will be a couple years before this has any sort of traction aside from a very small cult, simply because it fundamentally shifts a lot of things the current internet takes for granted. Also Yarvin's autism is ahead of its time so Galan needs to find a way to make all this more appealing to the mainstream. Personally I very much like the idea of owning your own data and monetizing it at your discretion.

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Yes, the nomclature was originally far more autistic and feudal than it is now.

Now I will freely admit that I don't have the IQ to really grok what Urbit is, but you're fucking retarded to think Yarvin/Moldbug can be reduced to a Jewish Terry Davis.

Nomenclature*

It's obvious that neoreactionary philosophy is inherent in Urbit's design. That's part of why I like it so much.

>that isn't a secret whatsoever.
Really? So why didn't you correct ?
>Is that greentext Curtis's original naming scheme
yes
github.com/mbrubeck/urbit/blob/master/Spec/urbit/3-intro.txt

2. Fort structure

If you are a normal user of Urbit, you are a 'lord.' The
identity of a lord is an arbitrary 32-bit atom.

For memorability, this number is mapped invertibly to a string
that looks like this (10 randomly generated examples):

@lazwik-paztid
@fimvak-givrif
@gowran-sawtol
@serzil-fibzan
@pimcon-sowces
@sawwip-febcif
@gavmop-nibcaf
@fawcid-fibmof
@dozcog-natbef
@letted-fected

This generator could probably be improved. But compare the
memorability of @gavmop-nibcaf to 164.218.21.33 - let alone
a single decimal number, like a Facebook ID.

Thus, a path in the fort @gavmop-nibcaf might be:

/@gavmop-nibcaf/usr/lib/php/doc

For casual use, we capitalize the fort: Gavmop-Nibcaf. It's a
strange name, but a name. We have lots of neurons for
remembering names. Not so many for remembering IP addresses.

Why can't you pick your own name? Because, with 32-bit global
identities, we can build a decentralized namepace. It's not
as memorable as it could be; it's not as decentralized as it
could be. But it's *adequate* on both these vertexes of Zooko's
triangle, and of course rock-solid on the third (security).

>It's like being at a party and suddenly one guy is accusing everyone besides him of being a faggot.
Baby's first day on Jow Forums?

I literally responded to him by calling it an address.

>Now I will freely admit that I don't have the IQ to really grok what Urbit is
it's not complicated.
It's a server that's supposed to have all your data - ie. your pc.
Then you set access rights on different things: this data can be accessed by that program, this can written by that program, this data can be downloaded by that server, this api can be called by everyone in group x.
These servers are addressed by generated string names, which are being sold.

All these things are possible for 60 years and can be trivially done on any multiuser system.

What's complicated is the bullshit part, ie. the implementation and description. Bullshit is 99% of urbit which is why it looks so confusing.
>but you're fucking retarded to think Yarvin/Moldbug can be reduced to a Jewish Terry Davis
in the context of urbit, it's a perfect description

One thing I'm curious about is who owns zod? Is it Tlon or Curtis? Because a couple weeks ago a whole bunch of galaxies popped up on the market, but during the meetup Galan sounded like he was distancing himself from any more sales to avoid regulatory attention for that sort of thing. He said they wouldn't even offer up the email list from previous star sales for market making purposes. So it must be some of Yarvin's that are up for sale? But in his exit post he said that all of his galaxies were locked into time released contracts? Is he dumping a bunch via proxies?

Nice. A good Moldbug essay for you to read if you haven't already: unqualified-reservations.org/2007/05/antisingularity/

KEEK

Those are Tlon's galaxies. Curtis has several thousand planets to be unlocked over the next few years but no galaxies; galaxies have governance rights that he has relinquished.

Also don't expect any more star sales from Tlon. They are selling galaxies to richfags with accredited investor status now. Selling Stars is too much like an ICO.

see this description from urbit primer:
>Your Azimuth identity, or planet, can launch 2^32(4 billion) child identities, or moons. That should be enough for your lights, your fridge, your 3D printer, and your swarm of farm robots. Own a factory? Sure, that too.

Sounds complicated. What it actually means is creating the equivalent of linux's group and user: eg. if you configure nginx, it's best to run it as 'www-data' user (name is arbitrary) with separate access rights, for security and maintenance.
"Azimuth identity" would be user with sudo rights.

The issue is that the average person does not know anything you just fucking said. Urbit is supposed to be easy to use.

>urbit
>easy to use

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>What's complicated is the bullshit part, ie. the implementation and description. Bullshit is 99% of urbit which is why it looks so confusing.
Right, so presumably you have some decent programming knowledge and have looked at Hoon and Nock, etc., which I don't have and haven't done, but I have trouble believing yarvin would go through all those years of inventing a new language purely for vanity's sake, without it yielding any fundamental benefits for the Urbit system that current internet architecture lacks. I have only evaluated Yarvin's work as Moldbug, i.e. his work as an uncredentialed sociopolitical historian, which has convinced me that he is at least a historical genius, in terms of inventing a theory that has shaped all of subsequent NRx thought and into which you could fold the alt-right too, and then by transitive logic have just assumed his technical work, which he has spent more time and capital on, would be equally impressive. I generally try to pay close attention to people who are demonstrably far more intelligent than the vast majority of people. And Curtis is one of those people.

It should be in the next few years. The entire point is that anyone should be able to run it on AWS at some point.

jewish scam? 1 star 5k for something not usable for decades. biz never change. will buy 1 start < 1$ in few yrs. this shit not gonna use by anone.

Nice try Hanjit but work on your English. It might be overpriced but you will never, ever, EVER get a star for $1. You might get lucky and pick up a planet at that price.

>opensea.io/assets/azimuthpoints
where did it say 5k nigga? all I see is less than 50$ offers or less some

>of inventing a new language purely for vanity's sake
it depends on how you define 'vanity' but that's pretty much it. It's his perfect language that should be the basis on everything - according to him, obviously. It doesn't actually do anything better than existing solutions.
moronlab.blogspot.com/2010/01/nock-maxwells-equations-of-software.html
>far more intelligent than the vast majority of people
intelligent people have a tendency to overengineer just because simple solutions are boring. Urbit is the single worst instance of that I have ever seen.

>basis on
of*

Those are planets. Filter it by price. Don't even buy one of these if you can't tell the difference.

I bought btc, eth with out knowing what the shit they do back in 2015. now does this have potential ? are this similar to crypto ? where to store them?

scammer ? are you shilling this shit and trying to lure someone from biz. the higest offer for 5k bid is 10$ fuckking doller. you saying its work 5k, how?

It has potential but not for at least 5-10 years. these are ERC 721 Nonfungible tokens. You own it on Ethereum (for now). They might move away from Ethereum at some point.

I am not a scammer, I just told you not to buy one because you don't even understand what the fuck this is.

So are planets like websites with domain names? Can i buy the www.ibm.com (or something like it) of planets?

No. You can choose from a number of hierarchical deterministic names based on the name of the star that spawns it. A planet's name is a phoeneticized 8 digit hexadecimal.

Https://Urbit.live has 10 stars to choose a planet name from.

Fucking hell, you guys... "planets", "stars", "galaxies" -- do you realize how retarded and cult-like all of this sounds?

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In order to have urbit stars decentralized currencies need to exist. In order for decentralized currencies to exist you need the internet first so urbit stars definitely couldn't have been the first.

Curtis Yarvin has a particular sense of humor like that.

Also, wasted trips, you brainlet.

Why did goldbug leave

130 IQ here.

The problem with Urbit it's that it is trying to ride the ''I will buy some planets or star in the hope to became like the people who bought bitcoin in 2008'' thing

Just tell me what are the advantages of Urbit compared to the internet thath there is heute (today)... what are they? Are there advantages?

Why someone in a not well known future should buy my personal server (star)?
For doing what that he can't do on the normal internet we have today?