This is the new Tiffany True engagement ring by Tiffany's

if you really loved her you wouldn't even need to make this thread

There we go.

She reeks of being insecure or inconsiderate. Abandon. Avoid the horror hiding around the corner

>wifing up a bitch whose preferred gemstone is diamond as opposed to sapphire

Never gonna make it

The problem is that she doesn't love him. AVOID

cringe + bluepilled

Well, the first thing you can do is explain to her that retail jewelry is mass-produced and swiftly depreciates in value after purchase, much like modern cars.
Also explain to her that diamonds aren't actually valuable and sway her to opt for a precious stone that is actually worth something without the assistance of global monopoly market fixing, such as opals.
Now, take your money and get a ring made by a jeweler that will be one-of-a-kind and can be hocked for about as much as you paid for it in the event that you an hero and leave her destitute.

> He fell for the boomer diamond meme.

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15k was already exactly the right amount you should be spending on an engagment ring, anything more is basically throwing money out the fucking window, anything less is kinda cheap. I would seriously reconsider what you’re about to do user, i mean it’s the wedding ring that counts right ? If you’re not willing to dump her arse then give in, otherwise you’ll be the one that “rUinED EveRyThinG” forever.

>engagement ring
>wedding ring
>5 year anniversary upgrade
>10 year anniversary upgrade
the ride never ends

Roasties well get it valued under the premise of insuring it

i got a tiffany sapphire engagement ring for my wife.

It's sweet. Whenever she compares it to other girl's rings, it always wins. Also shows you're not a cheap asshole and know that money is meaningless compared to a relationship

Find someone better. My 4th wife likes natural alexandrite, watermelon tourmaline, and lapis. Had something made a LOT cheaper than my budget - near identical to yours - that looks a lot better.

>Fiancee wants it.

Listen up anons. Any woman who tells you what engagement ring to get is not someone you should marry. You're marrying the future mother of your children, not some gold digging thot.

relax lads this whole thread is bait

That is almost twice what that ring should cost.

0/10

kys and everyone falling for this same old tired shit

Yeah no one here can afford this.

my girl told me to not waste money on rings and invest more of it in BNB

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kill the bitch with a shovel

>fiance wants a 23k ring

That's gonna be a hard yikes for me lad. You picked the wrong woman. She will make off with half your shit in roughly 15 years time, tops.

Fag

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Go to an independent jeweller and get them to make a copy for 1/3 the price then stick it in a Tiffany's box.

Have a local jeweler make it for 15k instead.

Imagine being this level of NPC beta

15k? you can get this shit done for 10k

Not anymore.

sad. she shouldn't want anything from you but your love.

OP budget is 15k.
Might as well bet a better quality and color stone so her wife's fragile ego isn't shattered if another girl's diamond is less yellow or included.

Instead, spend that money on a trip to West Africa, buy a raw diamond and have a local jeweler make you a custom ring. You’ll save 10k and have a real meaningful priceless ring.

Jokes on you for marrying a shallow fuck doll. You should buy a cheaper ring despite her and save the extra money for the inevitable divorce.

ITT: foreveralones who think 20k is alot of money for a once-in-your-life grand gesture that gives you social status

These guys never got laid in college. Unless she was a drunk hambeast. In which case, I understand why they cant conceive of buying a nice engagement ring.

I'm only spending 1k on a moissanite engagement/wedding band set. RIP op. Think about all the bitcoin you could have bought with that.

Nice try, roastie.

Tiffany stone quality are trash for what you get. If you have to get a rock, get one from online direct dealers like Blue Nile or James Allen. Learn how diamond is graded and what makes for ideal geometry. Not all 1.5 carat look the same size, depending on how it is cut and set. A 1.5 carat with a larger table will look bigger. But too much in one geometry dimension and it will lose shine and flare, etc... Also not all diamond certification organization are equal. GIA and AGS are the best and most trustworthy. Tiffany have their own in house diamond certification for a reason. So they can give higher grade to shittier rocks.

I ended up getting a top grade 1.5carat for 15k instead of 25+k it'll cost me from Tiffany. Still a fucking waste of money however.

no chick is ever going to scrutinize the size and quality of her gemstone. Normal people do not obsess over this stuff. Its either pretty or its not. Its either Tiffany or Harry Winston or its some no name mall tier jeweler she'll be embarrassed to tell people about.

"Where did you get your ring?"

"My husband is a complete cheapskate autist who went out of his way to prove this no name rock is better than the brand name one's"

said no wife ever.

What dont you understand about the flip side retard. Expecting somebody to spend 20k on Jewranium so you can assert social dominance over other people is the kind of roastie that you shouldnt be buying that for. You must be a roastie or a cuck.

I'm not a female, but I'd assume instead of asking the brand most would judge by the size and color then asking the cost instead of the brand. If the cost is reasonably similar to what an average tiffany ring would cost most wouldn't care

i agree that it would be better if we didnt have to buy stupid rocks on rings, but you're kidding yourself if you think that a desirable woman will not play the field, and try to ascend the social hierarchy.

Then again, if you'd prefer a disgusting dirty hippie bitch who u can take to ur shit hideaway in the woods and never exist in society with again, more power to you. You just have lower standards than me

they’re programmed from birth to think that marriage is going to be the defining moment in their lives that’ll complete them forever, they literally spend their days from 5+ years old planning it all out perfectly, you cant blame them man, and you cant blame a guy for wanting to give to them either.

DIAMONDS ARE WORTHLESS YOU DUMB WHORE

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Oh no no no

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My wife bought her own ring. She's expecting our third child.

AMA.

>gives you social status
Marriage doesn't give you shit, unless your a worthless roastie leaching social status off your man.
A man has to have social status to get married

Until the Tiffany chick realize their rock is smaller yet cost the same.

I got my wife a 3carat sapphire for 3.5k.
Anything beats a diamond

Beat her, break her heart, rape her best friends unconscious body

When she pisses you off admit to something
When shes good, apologize

Civil behavior is her only reward.
It's just an act. Be ready to kill her if need be shes your enemy

This is how you gaslight
The art is to not push it too far that she ever turns you in

If you feel like marrying her just buy whatever ring she'll like it doesn't have to be that specific one. Dont be a pussy cuck at the jewelry store. They weren't good to deserve your play acting. Walk out of the store if you cant get a deal. Learn to negotiate faggot

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NPC

I understand the fact that the money spent on this useless rock is meant to cement the marriage so the man doesn't see it as worthless. No man ever respects shit being given for free, regardless of the fact that dowry is usually given by the female in other cultures.
Can't it be put in something useful instead? Like a future child collage fund or a down payment for some living space?

The useless piece of rock is an investment in a future 24/7 babysitter for your child. If you hire a nanny and your wife doesn't make money you married the wrong person.

I would hope that it would be just a gold band for the wedding ring if she is wanting a big engagement ring.

No, women will easily notice the size of other womens finger rocks. Some jewelry is just meant to be big and visible.
In the long run it doesnt matter though.

kys

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Wonder who could be behind this post

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Pyramid Head?

women tend to care for the child 24/7 literally never in current times. Also, wasting 15k for a rock to cement a non-income person is some form of upper-middle class phantasmagoria. How much money are you willing to waste on pointless ceremonies.

why do you think Jow Forums is all about asian women that were taught traditional values to uphold the family first

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got my last wife 3.5kt diamond bc I could afford it and she loves telling people the size. I'm sure your wife never mentions size on any matter and will drown your kid lol

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hey just because its stupid that you have to get a nice ring for a nice girl, doesnt make it any less so, comrade.

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>implying women don't despise betas who shower them with money
The relation is literally opposite.

This is 10/10 beta COPE. Enjoy getting cucked.

Buy a fake ring with a glass instead of diamond for $20. Only experts with a microscope can tell difference. Think of all the dicks she sucked and litres of cum swallowed

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Diamonds are the scam of the century

marriage itself and its associated modern traditions are another scam altogether

OP's in deep

Incel here, do people really pay hundreds of thousands just to formally officialize a relationship? Why

Its too late for you to umderstand.....tell us your age?

31 next month

Aren’t you supposed to drop 3 months of salary on a ring?

yeah i want to know how old this guy is.

that came from a debeers marketing angle. buy a ring you like that you know your future wife will like. a lot of women will drop hints. don't be stupid. pick em up when they drop them.

Just end it

>Spending 20k on a rock to give to a girl that will eventually take half your shit

op here

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT MY ISSUE IS.

I have 7btc. I could be hitting the 21 watermark with this cash. Life is hard

In what world is anything less than 15k cheap? Even going by the de beers standard, 6k is plenty enough. And in my book anything more than 3k is kinda crazy unless you are rich.

Why not see a high end escort? Been single all your life up to 31, think of all the money you've saved from not having a relationship. Spend a grand on a couple hours with the perfect girl. Seems like a lot but why not treat yourself. Don't you want to know what the warmth of a woman feels like before you die?

> the perfect girl
> used good prostitute
Y I K E S
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+s

Physically. You're obviously buying a lie, an ideal. It's not real, doesn't mean it shouldn't still be experienced even in sub optimal fashion.

Check it

Buying an engagement ring is literally more cucked than putting up a craigslist ad for guys to fuck your wife

Diamonds are marked up and more common than you'd think. A European company has a monopoly on them and stores them in safes.
I would honestly get her a Sapphire, Ruby or Emerald

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>Imagine buying a rock

Just get them from the ground nigga. s m h at these white bois

Buy a moissanite ring. Cheaper, look nicer. If she finds out, start yammering about blood diamonds and African war orphans until she's satisfied.

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This. lmao wife is a loosing investment. It it flies floats or fucks just rent it

Yeah I'm sure a female's brain works just like your diamond-autistic gemstone evaluation

She never loved you. Cuck

wife her up

P.S. Serious post in a troll thread:
Unless your budget is in the six figures (which is only ok if you're worth $10MM+) going for brand instead of quality is the ultimate jewcuck move.
You can get a $15k Tiffany's ring for $5k on Blue Nile, and for these $15k you can get something seriously impressive on Blue Nile, Brilliant Earth, Taylor & Hart and others.

>buying a "rare" gemstone because society says you should.
>only rate because 90% of unearthed supply is hidden from the market
the absolute state

This too.
Buying diamonds is basically subsidising child slavery and filling the pockets of jew abusers who create a state of artificial scarcity.
Buying a gemstone ring (ruby, sapphire) is much classier, and financing family business in Sri Lanka instead.
It can also help you tell between a gold digger and a potentially good mother.

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