What jobs are safest from automation

What jobs are the most future proof biz bros? Previous answers from Jow Forums bros includes:
>lawyer who knows how to code
>doctor
>CS PhD bro with career in machine learning/vision/AI

I haven't heard anything definitive about accountants, dentists, pharmacists, sales people and bankers though.

tbhq being a banker is a chad career (much better than working 80 hours per week as a doctor) but I fear it will soon be replaced by our robo bros and AI

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Dude who give a shit, boomers don't understand technology so even if the technology is present, politicians have almost the same retarded thinking you do thinking it will even matter in your lifetime. Do whatever is good in the near future, only when boomers die we can have true freedom

>>lawyer who knows how to code
I read this here as well but I have no idea what positions are for coding lawyer. Smart contracts?

Anyways to answer your questions
>accountants
>pharmacists
safe from automation for some time until AI gets better

>dentists
>sales people
>bankers
safe for some time, but probably will get hit in the upcoming decade hard as well

why do you think dentists and bankers are more likely to be replaced than a pharmacist?

I'm sure this is woefully ignorant, but don't they pretty much just hand out the medicine that doctor's tell them to? I know they have to go to school and they know their shit, but couldn't anyone handle 95% of the responsibilities?

taco bell

Wal-Mart associate

Nuanced positions in smaller fields which require experience. If there are only a 1000 people world wide who can do a job its not logical to spend the resources trying to automate them.

Blockchain Asset Management

Shitcoin trader.

Customer Service unironically.

>sales people
no way this will ever get automated. You always have to sell good and services no matter what.

>bankers
which type of bankers? This is way to generic. Obviously bank clerks at the front desk and a few departments will get transformed etc.

>dentists
??? How so?

>lawyer who knows how to code
Low level law jobs will get replaced by automation but that's it. As a real lawyer no need to worry for few decades.

I think paralegals will get replaced but not lawyers

Anything involving shuffling numbers according to fixed procedures is easy. Anything that can done by a robot arm (like dentistry) is easy. That's a LOT of jobs right there.

exactly.

Automation & Robotics engineer here, whatsup cucks? I'll be the one replacing your desk with a cage.

Any form of art or entertainment. A bit ironic, since those are tough fields to make money off of right now.

sex workers, athletes, acting

can salesmen be automated?

Physical therapist

Professional shitposter

Do you find pleasure in your work?

Ultra kek.

>Lawyer
Only trial lawyers are safe, everyone else will get automated out in this lifetime.
>Doctor
lol no. Already tons of people are self diagnosing and treating using things as simple as editorial content. Most medical breakthroughs come as a result of technology. Robots can now operate on humans and have much higher success rates than humans do. I actually can't think of a type of doctor which will not get replaced by automation... it's one of the best use cases for this as plenty of people die every year at the hands of doctors due to human error which automation, robotics, & AI will displace.
>CS PhD
This is probably very safe for at least the next 20 years or so, but we aren't that far from coding programs which will outcode humans and once that happens computer "scientists" will have their jobs eliminated practically over night.

Think about things which require a human touch. Become a therapist - most therapists aren't ever going to cure someone b/c it's a bullshit job, but the whole point is someone is paying you to have a human interaction. We will definitely eventually be able to build robots that are near indecipherable from humans, but that's a long way out & even then people might still prefer to know they're talking to another human.

>nurses, doctors, dentists, anything in the health care field except for pharmacist. It's highly saturated and near impossible to find a job now a days even without automation

Your local gas station or convenience store could have been 100% automated decades ago with simple vending machine technology.
They still employ cashiers because customers are more comfortable with cashiers than vending machines.

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Metal fabricator/welder

Not a plain welder but some who builds everything out of metal

These things take so much alterations and redesigns is incredible

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I would like to throw in a vote for automating gas stations please.

it already is but for large products like cars, homes highly unlikely since people like to bargain and think they're getting a deal instead of paying for msrp

doctors are fucked. AI will do a better job at diagnosing and prescribing medication, and machines will do a better job at performing surgery. In the future doctors won't be worth their salary and healthcare will mostly just be nurse practitioners and AI/machines

>it already is
how so?I also mean door to door.Homes might be in my opinion.

were pretty far away from programs outcoding humans

just because we have some niffy auto completion and template generation doesn't mean we can generate anything worthwhile


Dijkstra on that matter:
>As an aside I would like to insert a warning to those who identify the difficulty of the programming task with the struggle against the inadequacies of our current tools, because they might conclude that, once our tools will be much more adequate, programming will no longer be a problem. Programming will remain very difficult, because once we have freed ourselves from the circumstantial cumbersomeness, we will find ourselves free to tackle the problems that are now well beyond our programming capacity.

any job involving negotiation, providing personal attention, dealing with ambiguous circumstances, or anything where you have to fit into small spaces.

Plumbers are going to have it made.

why does no one ever mention mathematics in general sure it's shit by itself but god tier the moment you branch into anything (i.e cs). Predictive data analytics will be huge. There will be a LARGE amount of real world data available decades from now and algos will form a large part of the decision making process on all levels of society and economy

There's a good chance even the activities or actions of citizens/workers will be influenced and suggested by algos. They will be almost god-like - powerful yet omnipresent

>'you can do anything wif a maft degree'
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Who wants to have robot arm shoving drills and sharp objects in their mouth. It will take 100+ years for that to be accepted.

If all you could do was cut timber manually then the invention of an electric bandsaw will definitely lower your value, but a good carpenter does more than that. If anything a bandsaw makes good carpenters efficient

blue collar workers, at least some of them
the only people that need to worry about automation are non skilled mcwage workers and entry level office drones

Hair stylist
Mechanic
Massage therapist
Psychologist
Bartender
Waiter

Are the trades safe bros? Trying to become an electrician

Ever been to Iceland?

They have automated gas stations all over the place since there are so few people. Shit is cash.

Crime is fairly automation proof. Always going to be a need for burglars, drug dealers, conmen, but kids these days don't want to learn a trade.

Not a fucken chance cunt

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The retards here will say no. They think you can 3d print houses complete with replaceable mechanical modules, or some stupid shit.
>inb4 some fave posts the moron 3d printing a concrete structure with no rebar
Dude is literally building a Flintstones mud hut...

You could just be a regular programmer. No need to get a crazy as compsci PhD. Just consider all the small businesses that will be waking up to the fact that some kid can just come in and build them a custom program for whatever process they need to do algorithmically.

You just roll in with a basic programming knowledge (loops, OOP principles, etc) stuff you'll pick up anyway learning python or java and build them a GUI so do their simple calculation, because they always usually are. So the lower level compsci shit isn't going anywhere either, but you'll have to hustle to get your name out there. This includes medium companies too who will actually have the infrastructure to hire you as an employee as well. Most are built around legacy systems so its going to takes years to convert them from cobol or whatever to java. So even then that's a safe bet.


Bottom line is automation is a meme for most positions, and the one's that are replaced directly will most likely create a new position to monitor the algo that took over the old one. I'm sure its not exactly 1-to-1 but it will be close.

> learn to program and you'll be fine.

they are safe but seething office drones will tell you otherwise because they can already feel the burn under their asses

>Ever been to Iceland?
who the fuck goes to Iceland?
>They have automated gas stations all over the place since there are so few people. Shit is cash.
Exactly. Anywhere could automate convenience stores. But it's pretty much just freezing cold ass Eskimos in the middle of nowhere that actually do it.

Anything that involves a human element; teacher, nurse, therapist, childcare, social worker, etc

Building automation

Pretty much this.

In an 8 hour day of "work" day trading stocks and reading biz shitposts I typically make 2 or 3 adjustments to some SQL and excel queries as required and everyone with grey hair in my office thinks I'm a wizard. The engies and pajeets have started catching on to my racket, but i started in the engineering department and most of them are glad I escaped while the pajeets are all same tier as me and can't bitch about it.

Health care.

I gave it 20 years which I think is fair. 20 years is a long fucking time in today's technological world. Think about where we were in 1999.
>Y2K ending the world
>Good computer was a 400mhz P2, 64mb sdram, ATA HD maybe 15gb was top of the line
>Best phones were old Nokia's (5110) which had text messaging and Snake, 0 smart phone technology
>Best video game systems were Nintendo 64 and PS1
>Best Internet for most people was dial-up

20 years later we have artificial intelligence actually in use in the real world, machines can replicate human faces exactly where you can't tell the difference, everyone has a computer in their pocket which is multiple times more powerful than the clunky desktops of 1999, we have quantum computing technology. Computers will be able to write complex code within the next 10 years and I think in 20-30 we will absolutely have artificial intelligence writing code that is better than anything any humans are putting out right now.

This + plus service roles like waiter and barber

Iktf boomers have halted so much progress. No one needs to be working 8 hours a day. But boomers don't understand that and they like to be around people at work necause they're lonely.

Can't automate NEETs

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The jobs that maintain these robots and the future jobs which will create robots that maintain other robots

It will be even tougher then if more people try to go to those fields (LOL) in order to escape the coming unemployment armaggedon.

Also, there are efforts on automating those fields but I guess it will only be for making run of the mill mainstream shit. I doubt black metal musicians would start using ML en masse to release music.

>any job involving negotiation, providing personal attention, dealing with ambiguous circumstances, or anything where you have to fit into small spaces.

Totally agree.

>There's a good chance even the activities or actions of citizens/workers will be influenced and suggested by algos.

That's already happening through social media.

This is what I do already

Boring

They seem safe in general to me.

>lawyer
>safe career
lmao

I quit IT a couple years ago and went into the machine trades
>everything that can be automated is already automated as manufacturing has been going this way since the 60s
>one-off repairs and small batch orders are major aspects of the job
>anyone that knows what they're doing is either over the age of 50 or a unicorn due to the general death of apprenticeships and the "go to college" meme
>every day in on the job builds skills and working knowledge that eventually provide a path to entrepreneurship if you really want it and plan accordingly
I don't miss IT for a second. The tech sector used to be cool man.

explain

btw law is more chad than healthcare and """engineers""""

Unironically getting into this

white collar workers will fade into obscurity
making way for the ascension of the ubermensch tradesman

automation engineer

I bet bankers were worried atms were going to replace them back in the 70s, too.

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Automation specialist

Gigolo for lonely japanese businesswomen

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we're closely approaching the asymptote for computation capabilities in a base-2 system and quantum computing is still pretty far away. Plus we still have no way to model human intelligence so its still a meme.

The biggest thing to happen to computational science in past 30ish years has been the move from CISC to RISC, and even now its becoming clear that there's really no other fundamental way to improve computation speeds with our current hardware. We've hit a dead end with this branch unless you want to send a computer around a black hole.

All turing machines do is essentially grade school addition on two bit strings. Until we can move away from that axiomatic concept shit won't change as much as you think it will.

Bunch of idiots, paralegals can do most of the work of a lawyer anyway at a fraction of wage, most lawyers will be replaced it'll be only senior lawyers and paralegals bunch of retards

>which type of bankers
You're literally a stupid cretin, investment banking is becoming all AI literally study done by Deloitte confirming majority of finance admin jobs will be replaced by AI by end of next decade

link to study? Fuck, I wanted to become an investment banker chad. What now bros? Become a accountant or data scientist?

you'll never have a meaningful job, just start getting your mind around your future NEET life

Tou're just trolling then. There are plenty of jobs that won't be replaced by AI

And you'll get one of those because of nepotism?

Unlikely for high value items or consumer facing sales. Maybe just in parts of B2B with standard replenishment. I think marketing functions are also safe for quite a while.

Software dev, trades, anything in healthcare, law, criminal justice, therapists...etc won't be replaced

I can see this for equities research and middle/back office, but M&A deals have a significant human input.

I guess time will tell. All I know is historically the people who think "we can't" always get BTFO. Science fiction is the best resource we have for understanding what tech will exist in the near term.

everyone will become NEETS because of the automatization of EVERYTHING

The day programming gets "fully automated" is the day everyone's job is good as gone, by definition. A self programming artificial intelligence is like a human that can grow its brain and intelligence at will.

So if you're that scared of AI go to the source and pick up a career in IT, preferably in software development or engineering.

But protip: we are nowhere near automating most major careers out of existence. The only big labor pool getting automated in the next 20 are truck drivers.

What do you do? Any tips on getting comfy low-work jobs such as yours?

Tell me more about machine trades

This is the only correct answer

Tesla is on the verge of selling all their cars online

celebrity
youtuber
political activist
politicial
best-selling author
renowned artist
world-class athlete
casino operator / professional gambler (live only obviously)
sales / client relations
adult services
massage
waiter / waitress

basically anything that involves selling your intellectual property to people who have money will still garner employment

paper pushers and specialized technical skills will be automated

AI will never play in the NBA

>thinking “banker” refers to clerks and tellers

kek

gunsmith
prove me wrong

>real bankers thinking a machine that hands $40 to the plumber is going to replace them

KEK

Teacher, especially if you're male and are interested in teaching elementary or kindergarten.
>8-3 job
>Stable cuz govt job
>Good pay, increases every year (up to $80k after 10 years)
>Highly respected job
>Lots of holidays
>Job gets easier the longer you do it, most of your planning you only do in your first couple of years
>Increased pay, benefits, priority placements and faster promotions due to lack of men in the industry
>Above again of you do a couple of years in the country, rural areas get you a free car, extra pay, faster priority placement and promotions
>Long service leave every 5 years so you can take a year off to travel the world
>Can live basically where you want because even the most remote jobless shithole towns need teachers
Results may vary depending on your country though

> US Teacher
> "We've decided to slash physical schools in favor of Khan Academy"

>base-2 system
Please tell me you're not a trinary shill

You retards who think that lawyers are safe are in for a treat. Do you not realize that the majority of you dumb asses wouldnt be the kinds of lawyers that will be able to keep their job? Those lawyers are ALREADY lawyers. By the time Watson research bots are affordable for your average law office, the only people keeping their jobs are the partners and some trial lawyers. Theres unironically people in law school now who will be jobless before the plumber cleaning shit out of their law school bathrooms.

how do i get this job. im in chicago but all the crypto jobs here are trading jobs that will only hire you if youre a financebro with a frat connection or something
>t. CSfag

Lol no. Not yet at least. There might be something said for using a prime based number system but i haven't seen any research on that.

Lol if you're American.

>Complains about hours of physicians
>Wants to enter finance
Guess you don't know anything about the profession