Alright, time to redpill some Jow Forumstards
Alright, time to redpill some Jow Forumstards
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Jim isn’t wrong. Tradies usually aren’t the brightest people.
the intelligence man would take the trade route, knowing the effort vs reward ration heavily favors trade work.
if you dont have a college degree chances are you are stupider. doesn't mean people that got into debt aren't themselves stupid though.
going into a trade is just realizing you'll never be able to do anything but manual labor
Yeah, this is true but Joe actually needs Jim to be the norm, otherwise, Jims will rush into the Joe market and drive his wages to the ground.
It's funny because 99.9% of people who go to college today would be considered peasants and would have to be forced to be Joes, but the middle class grew so much that the bankers couldn't help themselves by tricking the Jims into thinking they could be a Charles by getting a piece of paper.
Tbh I wonder what will happen once the middle class kills itself by buying into these scams.
college is the biggest meme of the century
why would you even study philosophy or liberal arts in uni now that you can get all the books in the internet
most fags do it for the girls, accept it you fuckers
being in trade will only make you a lot of money if you are already smart.
Sometimes your parents force you to get a degree before they give you a job at their firm.
If you're clever, it'll work out for you. College degrees are just a way to signal to your employer that you're intelligent. Jim maybe took the meme too literally, looking for a job as a philosopher. If he got through the degree, it really just signifies that he's clever with words.
I bet the 'philosophers' you see at Starbucks went to some shit uni or got low marks, even if they're not lying and did gender studies. Otherwise, they'd be eminently employable.
Can't wait for SHTF and all these college faggots can't even change a tire without an app
It's already starting. Life expectancy has declined the past 3 years due to increase in suicide and drug overdose.
This but I’m in no position to speak because I made no meaningful career advances without it. Now I’m about to flunk out from never attending the classes because I’m a sack of shit that will either have a panic attack or be completely unable to focus when I do since I should be a graduate at my age and all I can think about In college is how I don’t deserve to exist.
Ya I've been a tree climber and used to work with a lineman. We both agree that we'd rather be a philosophy major than doing this shit for another 30 years, if the body can even last that long. But ya sure keep convincing weak biz kids that this shit work will make them men.
Well, I didn't mean that literally. I mean just the middle class exhausting itself financially due to delusions, and most of it just going back to being poor.
Lol quality bate
And dumb fucking rednecks can't run a computer to save their lives. The closest they ever get is tuning they're gay ass trucks from all that sweet oil and gas money. Which then get repo'd because most people in the trades are co-tech dipshits that couldn't bother to learn that the industry is cyclical so they go broke like the degenerates they are.
Joe works 30 years as his salary caps out at the equiveleant of a mid-level college grad. He’s been doing shitty awful painful work for years and isn’t smart enough for the very limited management positions available in his field. He gains an addiction to opiates since his body is so rundown from manual labor for 12 hours a day. Joe hates his life and all of the meaningless “toys” he bought to stave off the pangs of his unfulfilled life cannot be used because he can barely walk due to his knees and back.
Jim is working a cushy office job and his biggest fears are carpal tunnel syndrome and whether or not he’s going to the office ski trip this Saturday
Joe fucked up his back and is addicted to opiates.
Ah, I see we're from the same town.
>learn to code
Can't come soon enough
Why is it always the extreme?
Why are people working trades always sub 90IQ retards?
I personally prefer common sense over plain book wisdom.
Ironically, philosophy undergrads (with JUST an undergrad degree) earn a shit ton of money. I don't know why people give philosophy majors such a hard time. Give the gender studies majors a hard time or something.
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Not even a philosophy major (I studied marketing), but my friends who studied philosophy are outearning me right now.
kek whatever you say dumbass. Soon Ranjeek curryweather will replace you, if not him something else will.
>muh codez
You really want your mind blown? Go check out the amount of billionaires who studied history and philosophy as undergrads.
I don't have a degree and I get paid 90k a year for setting up computers for businesses mostly banks . I barely do any labour.
What do you say to this:
Got an apprenticeship in blue collar job
Did Computer Science degree afterwards
Never ever had debt
I am God Tier
Ups driver here.
Started driving at 21. Made 60k my first year. Topped out at 26 year old making 90k. We get COLA raised every year. Last year I cleared 99k.
Because I was able to make a lot younger, I’m in a much better spot than my friends. I bought a house when housing was cheaper, i made some other investments ect. I still make much more than basically every college grad I personally know. I pay 0 for amazing insurance. Ooo ya, 6 weeks paid vacay
And due to the
>muhhh hardwork
I’m in amazing shape in my mid 30s.
College is a fucking scam. Even if you get a nice engineering degree ect your still somebody’s bitch, answering phone calls and emails at all hours and on weekends, paying for your health care, and can’t take a vacation because you have “projects” going on
go shit in the street
>'No degree'
>90k/y
>No labour
>'Set up computers'
>'Banks'
You absolutely have a degree, if not that then some kind of qualification on a piece of paper you use to show your worth that you payed money for.
jim should just start an ico shilling some unfeasible, yet very attractive products like oracles
>he paid money/took debt to go to a socialist mindlock institution
lmao
Checked and not jew brainwashed
I was unironically making more shingling roofs than I am as a chemical engineer, but that shit is temporart and you look around at the guys still labouring at 50 and their all busted up alcoholics drinking the aches and pains away. Not much upward mobility in it but if you can get your own business running before your body breaks down you do end up beating most STEM careers in the end. That isn't every dope who decides to pick up a hammer though. Plenty of them just slave their whole career and don't save a dime.
Not that user but I only have my high school certificate and i do IT for a trading firm.
They paid me peanuts but after 3 years ive been bumped up to 80k
Weird how all the smart people end up being socialist.
I don't do that low level CRUD shit. I'll be fine.
???
I mean my cal2 professor is an open communist but most of the successful postgrads I met aren’t socialist at all
>smart
A majority of people on campus can't even spell eye correctly, fuck most don’t even know who Joe Biden was until recently
Thats because you hang out with fellow brainlets while you get your bullshit degree.
Watch out we got a badass over here
Birds of the same feather flock together. YOU are the brainlet user.
>implying all degrees are shit
>implying most people aren’t brainlets
Btw I don’t actually go to college, I’m just close to one, and I’m around these retards all day, they seem to think the world is a literal cartoon. I don’t even hang out with any of them I just happen to be near them
a lot of them are smart but doesn't mean they can't get brainzogged.
adult in position of trust tells fresh 17/18 year old something, they will believe it, like they have done in school from age 5.
They don't, they become ideologues and it just so happens that the ideology common in colleges is Marxist in nature. Intelligent people become ideologues because they are able to understand and commit to it.
There are fewer right wing ideologues because it isn't fashionable.
Do not mistake ideologue for useful idiot, by the way.
WHO’S CHARLES?
Humanity graduates aren't that bright either. You can learn as much as they can by reading books and watching documentaries by paying $0.
>implying american college is hard
try going to european university, or asian ones if you've got the balls
ok this is actually tru.
>smart kids go to college
>college is (((subverted)))
>smart kids fall for the mind tricks
Not that hard to understand really. And your comment sounds like something a stupid person would say
Joe the smwia journey person here $230+k annual. ama
you know we earn college credit ? for free some of us get paid to go to school.the high earners all have some sort of engineering degree or people skills. manual labour is not exclusive to every trade.
i can draft shit in cad, revit, or bim learned it for free
top union sheet metal workers in USA230k+ annually
top union iron workers in the USA 300k+ annually
top union steamfitters in the USA 260k+ annually
top union operating engineers in the usa 400k+ annually
other trades top pay 80-250k +
we make more than the average jim you're all underpaid
Employer here. It doesn't, really. All I really care about is your experience, your skills and how much it's going to cost me to put you to work. In most cases just having a degree and fast food/barista/college mcjob experience tells me you don't know what you're doing and you're going to be a pain in the ass to train.
>$230k
>$300k
>$400k
LMAO
>tfw I fell for the college meme
>tradies so asshurt that society has a low perception of them that they rant and rave about how they're actually paid well and how their job is great
total package 100k+ taxable / 108k untaxed benefits
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it;s all on paper even dumb shit sheet metalworkers get that bare minimum
heres more yes we do make that much
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$50/hr isn't $230k friend. if you're working 70 hour weeks you should probably admit that when you post "average pay".
50hr+ taxable 50+ in untaxable do you read these ?
> mmkay
I think it’s a bit silly to talk about an nyc union and include benefits as part of your salary. If that’s the case I’m making 100k in the Midwest
> i can draft shit in cad, revit, or bim learned it for free
Well obviously I wasn't talking about you. I'm talking about the dude that live's for skoal, pop-country and rolling coal. Fuck those fags. They're also fat as fuck and can't walk to their tree stand without stopping for a break to take a sip of coke. They're not as bad as 3%'ers though, but they're close.
> t.pennsyl-tuckian
And I'm all for tradesman and unions. That is obviously a legit career. I just have a particular hate for "handymen" because they're usually shitbags who rip people off. I've worked for enough of them over the years (not proud of it either but ya gotta eat). But now I go out of my way to fuck them over. They deserve it.
most of america are privately insured i'm paying out of my wages they;re not ? many americans pay in to iras with their wages. i pay into an annuity. most americans dont get to pay in to pensions.
but you dont count that money when you do your taxes ? lol ok makes sense
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>john
>john took full time work at a position that provided tuition assistance and doesn't even know what credit is earning a Masters in Onanism
>john earns 100K annual not including his 401K, health dental visual insurance, company phone, and leased vehicle
>john pays only for living expenses such as home and food
>john doesn't even leave his home since he can work remotely and takes contract work on the side for additional income
ishygddt any of the shit that was depicted especially when OP cropped the image just to make everyone in the failure categories feel bad.
Holy shit this is the best bait I’ve seen on the internet in years
Would rep irl I am laughing you fucking faggot. Trolled all the mongoloids on here nicely
>>college is (((subverted)))
>>implying that people don't have free will to choose what ideas they agree do or don't agree with
b-but "people" without a college degrees ARE stupid..
an intelligent man, Ivan
I'm pretty much this, though I'm only at 55K in Ohio. I'll get to 100K eventually for sure though, 2 years ago I made $12/hr. It's a lot of work and uncertainty based on promises from employers though, luckily, most of which for me have panned out.
> Finishing my associates, haven't even had to buy a book.
>a cushy office job
a fat fuck with diabetes, high cholesterol and blood pressure
> ski
hahahhahaha
> You can't be an office worker and /fit
You're legitimately retarded.
>Joe hates his life and all of the meaningless “toys” he bought to stave off the pangs of his unfulfilled life cannot be used because he can barely walk due to his knees and back.
please delete this
Eh, I get paid to think, you get paid to do bitch work. I also make double what you make but you're salary isn't bad for bitch work if you don't mind doing mindless task all day. That would bore me to tears.
Cope harder. Philosophy is the Chad tier major. Philosophy literally gave birth to western Civilization. Without the philosophy of the ancient Greeks, the Romans, Descartes, there is no fucking western Civilization.
Tradie wagie will spend his days in the hot sun, chugging monsters and living off donuts, while his sub human whale of a wife bangs Tyrone. Wagie tradie dies of a heart attack at 55 after spending his life working 90 hour weeks. Philosophy Chad dies at 95 after completing his quest to read the world's best literature in retirement and having made the world a better place in his prime years
>joe
>can't even bend over by the time he's 40
>won't even come close to 80k ever in his life
>stuck doing the same job forever
>jim
>picked a useless fucking degree
>who the fuck actually has 100k in student loans
Both these people are retards
keep grinding john we're gonna make it.
or you know you could just do it the even easier route than both of those, and be a Mark.
>earn minimum of lifetime earned income of 40k and get 900 a month from SSDI Income for dabbling in /x/ bullshit and getting infected with schizo from homeless.
>on the side go to garage sales/flea markets/estate sales/thrift stores.
>find cheap priced, valuable rare uncommon discontinued items to resell to local shops/online for at least a %10 profit margin.
>also make a niche market for yourself in the book writing industry by introducing a new genre of story type.
>all the while watching stocks and trading when appropriate, building up enough capital over the years to establish yourself as a legitimate brand and indie business.
>literally only have to work less than 20 hours a month if you know how to do it right.
left is unironically Sergey, that was so desperate for money he committed securities fraud to scam investors.
This.
It made sense for boomers in 20th century, when you could buy a decent house after 5-10 years of wagecucking and basically live upper-high standard from mere waging.
In todays economy to afford a house and college, you have to be a top 5% wage earner.
nice larp bucko, let me see those paychecks
Philsophy is God tier if you know how to use it. Its unfortunate that most people consider it dumb. Stuff like phd in music or gender studies are absolute trash peasants.
based and philosopherpilled
>stupider
Cue the trade workers who make six digits, despite averages being 30-60k
Neither of those are trades you fucking monkey
>Jim
>Philosophy Major
>Invests a shitcoin that will change the future
>Joe
>Invests all his money into shitcoin
>Loses everything and becomes an alcoholic with fucked joints
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I have to say I'm dissapointed Jow Forums
Did he really pay faggots to shill his campaign on Jow Forums? You realize that most 3rd party candidates, especially libertarians, just use you retards to enrich themselves? Fuck yang and I hope he exit scams on you retards. That's what you get for being libertarian dipshits.
Depends on the trade. Plumbers/welders/scafolders are fucking animals
>"smart" kids all go to college
>"smart" kids collect $100k student debt will never pay back taking "humanities" courses and so on
>"smart" kids' school tolerates and often even participates in leftist rabble rousing on campus and goes out of its way to shut down alternative viewpoints-if the "smart" kids are blaming "the system" they're not blaming the school itself for the financial failure they've been set up for
>"smart" kids come out of school blaming their problems on the only people they can find with their objectively worthless gay degrees that will actually pay them money instead of the people taking it away every month
Doesn't seem very smart when you take a few minutes to think about it instead of being a useful idiot sycophant, does it?
TAHTAHTAHTAHHHH THE COPING OF A MINIMUM WAGE 'ADMINISTRATOR' WITH A PHD IS PHYSICS
This. Real World Example: Rush Limbaugh
>he thinks Yang is a libertarian or that libertarians would conceivably support him
>this is the kind of absolute grug bained retard that says he "would rather be a philosophy major"
Holy shit everyone look at this moron and laugh
>Yang
Fucking zoomers
This poster is a Jim.
Tradesmen are typically very pragmatic thinkers. They think in terms of concrete facts and things. They do not think abstractly very often (aside from laying out a plan perhaps.)
Whoever thinks a master tradesman isn't bright is pretty fucking stupid.
The only people telling people to go into a trade are people who don't and never would work in a trade.
>Joe
>gets up at 5 am, works all day
>comes home tired, has supper then goes to bed
This is basically the life of my former friends who skipped college and went straight into trades. Former because no one hangs out with them any more. They're only 29 and their lives are basically already over
>Jim
>makes 100K+ when he's 30, 200K+ when he's 45+
>Joe
>still makes 80K
>can barely work in his 50s because of the physical toll the job takes on his body
No, but in this case they inadvertedly made the right move. It was a safe choice and it fucking paid off alright. I pitty Jim, the poor sod